How far is it before you're impersonating a cop?

[YOUR MATE]

So the cops shafted me being pingpingpingpings tonight and I feel like being a prick. Recently I acquired an ex-pursuit VZ SS and you can still see where some of the stickering was. Car used to be 75 of vic highway patrol haha. Mate rekons get the numbers made up for the roof again, but I thought of goin a bit further and getting some more markings. Pretty sure I'm not allowed strobes nshit, but I rekon aslong as I dont put POLICE on my car I should be right.

Any insight?

[Cold Fusion]

cant have flasing lights and trying to pull people over

my mates and i had a small strobe light in the car and we were flashing it around, (not trying to pull people over), but someone thought we were and got our plates and dobbed my mate in, and he lost his licence for 3 months...nearly went to jail for 2 years (thats the max penalty) fucking stupid but meh

so id be careful coz they can get u for fuck all

[BAS]

Can imagine every cop that saw you would stop you too.

[fourseven]

Can't really have lights at all (flashing or non-flashing), beyond amber: http://www.dpi.wa.gov.au/mediafiles/lic_vsb13.pdf

The discretion lies with the Police when to act. If they believe they can get you for just the numbers on the roof they will try.

With regards to livery use a colour that doesn't closely resemble any state or federal emergency vehicle and you should be good.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/51/152980774_697577307b.jpg

Or ask that pingpingpingping yorky, he'll be able to tell you whether he'd report you or not ;)

[RICEY]

Just get the strobes in your headlights that flash left and right, not blue or red, just normal white beam. And no stickers :D

[RICEY]

On that note had an unmarked VE in the other day, no extra aerials, wheel covers over the pursuities, front blue and reds hidden on the sun visor and just the rear red/blue LED on the parcel shelf. Very hard to spot !!

[Alt_F4]

Easy to spot at night... big screen in middle of car's dash lights them up like a xmas tree :)

[gerrin]

spotted a unmarked rex on the fwy early hours of friday morning aswell
no marking and dark as window tint
i wouldnt pick it

[DanWA]

The VY i bought my mrs had the checkers/numbers and shit still clearly visible all over it. Got pulled up at revheads last year and cops had a laugh between themselves.

[fourseven]

spotted a unmarked rex on the fwy early hours of friday morning aswell
no marking and dark as window tint
i wouldnt pick it

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j159/BYBYSTI/unmarkedwrx2.jpg

This one?

[DJ84WA]

The question i have is...Why would you want to impersonate a police car?

[Niva]

on the subject of cops i was taken down lasrnight by a cop car, are they aloud to do that?

[scj91]

Define taken down?

Like you were walking on the side of the road and a cop car rammed you to the floor?


Or....

[Niva]

The fat fuck was too lazy to chase me on foot so he used the car to ram me

[iluv2moan]

The question i have is...Why would you want to impersonate a police car?

what i was thinking, impersonate what us car enthusiest look down on and consider scum

[Miggy]

Most cops aren't bad.

[iluv2moan]

neither are most aboriginals

[RICEY]

lol

[addicted.to.speed]

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j159/BYBYSTI/unmarkedwrx2.jpg

This one?

why have you removed the number plate from a cop car? What are the plates?

[iluv2moan]

might be his

[ovaxitd]

last night under cover fg xr8 red on freeway north pulling carnts over!! pigs

[Joe]

The fat fuck was too lazy to chase me on foot so he used the car to ram me

LOL

Serious?

[DISTRBD]

why have you removed the number plate from a cop car? What are the plates?

I was just thinking same , rego please

[Tocchi]

last night under cover fg xr8 red on freeway north pulling carnts over!! pigs

since when could they get 8s?

[SSICK]

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j159/BYBYSTI/unmarkedwrx2.jpg

This one?


there is more than jsut this one, i worked at the building site right next to the cop shop for a cpl of months, cpl of black ones, red one, and a cpl of silver ones.

[scj91]

The fat fuck was too lazy to chase me on foot so he used the car to ram me

FUCKING LOL.

"Cause that's what i passed the police academy for!"

[fourseven]

why have you removed the number plate from a cop car? What are the plates?

Nah I didn't remove the plates, it's floating around a few forums. No idea on rego :(

[fourseven]

since when could they get 8s?

They can't, must have been a XR6 which they have plenty of.

[evil1]

since when could they get 8s?

cops can do anything
my cousin got done talkin on the phone by a ve ss in bright green

[fourseven]

cops can do anything
my cousin got done talkin on the phone by a ve ss in bright green

Lies. It's actually a bright green VE SV6 and I do have the plate for that one, thanks to Perthevo.com - 1CWG178

Legistlation in WA exists restricting Police from driving anything over 6 cylinder for operational duty. They can't just rock up at City Holden or McInerney Ford and buy an 8. Doesn't work like that ;)

[Deke]

you can actaully buy undercover cop blue and red lights from vaeles if you really want to go that far , the visor ones and back window

[RICEY]

Yeah all XR6s and SV6s, they get the turbo but not the 8

[SircatmaN]

What are those "drop5" cars? xr6turbos?

When I was working at the track I saw:

XR6
v6 commo
XR6T
WRX (non sti)
XR5
Astra

and im pretty sure there was a v8 or 2. BTW these cars were all in police colours with lights, some were undercover.

[dmwill]

I know of a wreckers that has a set of Jap police lights similar to this...

http://www.japanesesportcars.com/galleries/data/media/48/police_gtr.jpg

[Skitzo]

What are those "drop5" cars? xr6turbos?

When I was working at the track I saw:

XR6
v6 commo
XR6T
WRX (non sti)
XR5
Astra

and im pretty sure there was a v8 or 2. BTW these cars were all in police colours with lights, some were undercover.

:confused:

[iluv2moan]

what about the pathfinders they drive??

[scj91]

Ooh! i seen a Nissan patrol with bullbar spotties and cop lights!

WTF?

[RICEY]

Ooh! i seen a Nissan patrol with bullbar spotties and cop lights!

WTF?

They are traffic escort vehicles for oversize loads etc

[lazy6]

see plenty of xr6s and ve sv6s round ossy park

[DJ84WA]

i got pulled over by a black xr6t with 20" chrome rims and overly dark tint. also had a FMIC. i guess too many people know what to expect from undercover cop cars (what they look like.) and they are converting to different cars.

[Stef]

On that note had an unmarked VE in the other day, no extra aerials, wheel covers over the pursuities, front blue and reds hidden on the sun visor and just the rear red/blue LED on the parcel shelf. Very hard to spot !!


to add to that, we were cruisin with brendan and spotted an unmarked VE omega with stockies, looked deadset lyk a copper, but turns out it was a faker. made us look twice.

[fourseven]

What are those "drop5" cars? xr6turbos?


Yeah, such a homo colour though.

[teknoboi]

last night under cover fg xr8 red on freeway north pulling carnts over!! pigs

it was an fg xr6t aye! i was the aristo infront of ya lol

[mr_mike]

Ooh! i seen a Nissan patrol with bullbar spotties and cop lights!

WTF?

arent these the TRG vehicles? have roof racks and shit

[Lonewolf]

TRG use unmarked ones, traffic escort/horse division/etc use marked ones

[scj91]

arent these the TRG vehicles? have roof racks and shit

well,if it was,it pulled someone over on the freeway for speeding hahaha


TRG use unmarked ones, traffic escort/horse division/etc use marked ones

oh,yeah it was unmarked.

[XF Falcon]

i got pulled over by a black xr6t with 20" chrome rims and overly dark tint. also had a FMIC. i guess too many people know what to expect from undercover cop cars (what they look like.) and they are converting to different cars.

probably some poor bastards car who got done under hoon laws for a 3rd offence or something, and they decided to keep it :lol:

[Alt_F4]

probably some poor bastards car who got done under hoon laws for a 3rd offence or something, and they decided to keep it :lol:
...or impounded and decided to 'borrow' it :lol:

[Passage GT]

trg use territory's too
late one night while i was working, was like 4-5 territory's all unmarked, a truck full of armoured up and armed trg dudes with back door open, followed by a another couple territory's and a marked patrol
pretty sure i've seen highway patrol cars using ss commo's though
they've been using sv6 and xr6t's for a couple years now, they used to always congregate at bp melville at around 2am when we had our break on nightshift

[fourseven]

Unmarked Patrols aren't used only by the TRG. The TRG generally use dark grey coloured Patrols while the TEG (pingpingpingpings), major crash and forensics have a number of them unmarked in other colours (generally white). The TRG don't cruise around in the Patrols unless they are in the middle of an operation so the chance of them pulling someone over are very slim.

There are number of black XR6T's in the fleet which are generally used by the Major Incident Group (MIG). These guys usually take over pursuits and are normally called to attend anything high-risk that doesn't require the TRG. They pair up a detective with a traffic cop each shift.

The Territorys aren't used by the TRG, they usually get used by the Tactical Investigation Group (TIG). In a nutshell the TIG are detectives who investigate any major incident after the incident has occured. You will often find the Territorys around any operation involving the TRG because the TIG often require TRG support (serving high risk warrants, drug raids etc). Once the TRG have made entry to premises or secured any person's of interest, the TIG take over to investigate.

I use the words usually and generally alot because the WA Police usually (!) can't organise a root in a brothel.

[YOUR MATE]

There are too cops in 8's. Mates place was broken into, VE SS comes smashing up the street on full noise. I thought it might've been same guys having pinched a car, but no, twas a black unmarked VE SS looking for the ppl involved.

Unmarked VZ Clubby out rocko way. Red one with visor lights and lights on rear shelf. Dunno if it's a personal car an officer chucked lights in or what, but it's there.

[SircatmaN]

:confused:

as in all those car models stickered up etc. but there were some of thos same model cars that were undercover (You dont think the police force only has 1 wrx and 1 xr6 turbo do you?). ;)

[fourseven]

There are too cops in 8's. Mates place was broken into, VE SS comes smashing up the street on full noise. I thought it might've been same guys having pinched a car, but no, twas a black unmarked VE SS looking for the ppl involved.

Unmarked VZ Clubby out rocko way. Red one with visor lights and lights on rear shelf. Dunno if it's a personal car an officer chucked lights in or what, but it's there.

I'll give you the hot tip. The last 8 used by the WA Police was a VT Commodore, Series 2. There has NEVER been a vehicle over 6 cylinder since.

The WA Police Union forced the government to ban the use of anything over 6 cylinder after a police officer died in a crash (while on duty) in 2000.

If a VE SS attended a job, they weren't cops. As for a Clubsport - dreaming. It may be the personal car of a OIC but it wouldn't be operational.

[SSICK]

and ill give you the hot tip, ive seen the clubsport and if its got the party lights it makes it a cop car!

[AGIT8D]

Haha, well the whole point of this thread was to find out legalities of making a non-cop car look like a cop car. Someone else has previously stated that you are able to buy those visor party lights and parcel shelf lights exactly as the cop ones are.. Maybe this Clubby is another pretendo-cop?

[zxz]

i spotted a new bright blue camry that had been pulled over on tonkin, then i realised the camry was the one pulling people over....

got me hell parranoid about blue camrys now :p

[fourseven]

and ill give you the hot tip, ive seen the clubsport and if its got the party lights it makes it a cop car!

Yeah totally, that's why the Nissan Patrols marked in the blue livery with the red and blue light bar on top and 'Traffic Escort' on the doors are driven by civilians who have no authority under the Road Traffic Act.

Fail.

[SSICK]

im not fukn blind, i know what i saw everyday for a month. uniformed cop getting into and out of it. a clubsport is hardly a pilot vehicle.

[SSICK]

gt86wa got stung by a fusion vy ss too. they dont even need the party lights to sting ya!

[fourseven]

That still doesn't make it a Police car!

There may well be lighting in it, but he has no authority (even wearing a uniform) to pull anyone over, engage in a pursuit, attend jobs in it etc.

Anyway enough from me. :)

[fourseven]

gt86wa got stung by a fusion vy ss too. they dont even need the party lights to sting ya!

If a Police officer identifies themselves in their own private vehicle (usually badge out the window and a request to stop), and attempts to pull you over and you run they have NO AUTHORITY to chase you unless they are in a category of vehicle authorised by the commissioner.

You could face other legal issues, but the point I am trying to make is the Police do not use V8s.

/rant!

[AGIT8D]

If a Police officer identifies themselves in their own private vehicle (usually badge out the window and a request to stop), and attempts to pull you over and you run they have NO AUTHORITY to chase you unless they are in a category of vehicle authorised by the commissioner.

You could face other legal issues, but the point I am trying to make is the Police do not use V8s.

/rant!


lol yeah I had an offduty cop show his badge at me after some spirited swinging of the rear end in my s13 behind him. He was in a red VS 6 banger.. I just stayed next to him so he couldn't see my plates, he slowed down I slowed down he sped up I sped up haha. Quickly bailed at the last minute into a side street and never heard a thing about it.

Regardles of whether or not he could have pulled me over or whether I would have stopped if he had my plates I would have been stung.

[Drift_R32]

I'll give you the hot tip. The last 8 used by the WA Police was a VT Commodore, Series 2. There has NEVER been a vehicle over 6 cylinder since.

The WA Police Union forced the government to ban the use of anything over 6 cylinder after a police officer died in a crash (while on duty) in 2000.

If a VE SS attended a job, they weren't cops. As for a Clubsport - dreaming. It may be the personal car of a OIC but it wouldn't be operational.

ive also seen a GTO with full computer and lights on front and rear shelf in morley. hot tip sounds like your a cop.

[SircatmaN]

ive also seen a GTO with full computer and lights on front and rear shelf in morley. hot tip sounds like your a cop.

"Are you a COP Brian!?"

[AGIT8D]

hahahaha

[fourseven]

ive also seen a GTO with full computer and lights on front and rear shelf in morley. hot tip sounds like your a cop.

Nah not a cop. Done plenty of work for WA Police though in relation to the computer you talk of, called TADIS. Some of the shit learn throughout the work was pretty interesting.

Pretty much everything to do with how the TEG operates, and the changes to protocols for pursuits can all be traced back to 2000 when Mark Loohuys was a passenger in a V8 Police car that hit a tree while responding to threats to kill in Glen Forest. Before that cops were practically allowed to do anything on the road.

[Mad_Aussie]

The fat fuck was too lazy to chase me on foot so he used the car to ram me

woah rewind, you were on foot? or on a bike, or did he hit your car?

If you were on foot, thats like attempted murder hey

[DRKWRX]

yeah sue them and you can buy 1000 nivas!

[hostage_85]

Nah not a cop. Done plenty of work for WA Police though in relation to the computer you talk of, called TADIS. Some of the shit learn throughout the work was pretty interesting.

Pretty much everything to do with how the TEG operates, and the changes to protocols for pursuits can all be traced back to 2000 when Mark Loohuys was a passenger in a V8 Police car that hit a tree while responding to threats to kill in Glen Forest. Before that cops were practically allowed to do anything on the road.

I have a mate thats a cop, now granted he does over exagerate on things some times, but he was telling me they do now have an XR8 Pursuit Vehicle, and he's glad becuase the SV6's and Xr6's are to slow in high speed chases he reckons. He didnt mention abotu the XR6 Turbo though.

[scj91]

Unmarked Patrols aren't used only by the TRG. The TRG generally use dark grey coloured Patrols while the TEG (pingpingpingpings), major crash and forensics have a number of them unmarked in other colours (generally white). The TRG don't cruise around in the Patrols unless they are in the middle of an operation so the chance of them pulling someone over are very slim.




Well i seen one,pulling someone over.

[Tocchi]

of course police are allowed V8s, afterall, the XR6Ts are faster and have more power. haha

[AGIT8D]

I have a mate thats a cop, now granted he does over exagerate on things some times, but he was telling me they do now have an XR8 Pursuit Vehicle, and he's glad becuase the SV6's and Xr6's are to slow in high speed chases he reckons. He didnt mention abotu the XR6 Turbo though.

Cops are only supposed to pursue til 140-150km/h? SV6's and XR6's will do this easy..

[fourseven]

Cops are only supposed to pursue til 140-150km/h? SV6's and XR6's will do this easy..

Yeah, the absolute maximum speed during a pursuit is 140km/h. Again, this can be linked back to the cop that died in 2000. Prior to this cops were allowed any speed.

[hostage_85]

Well im just telling ya what he told me. That they now have an XR8... so one would assume they have SS's etc... as well

[AGIT8D]

You'd hope they'd have SS's... Not gonna be able to catch shit in an XR8.. Ahaha just kidding... *puts police stickers on BOSS290*

[iluv2moan]

ive seen a cop cars with chevy badges

[fourseven]

Forgetting the fact that there actually isn't a XR8 in operational use, and the WA Police don't use any 8 for anything operational why the hell would they use 8s when they are deploying Astras and WRXs as they move towards a more 'green' fleet?

Does this not come across as retarded to anyone else?

Why the hell would they NEED 8s? The XR6T is more then capable and for anything they can't catch they get the helicopter to chase them :)

As for Chevy badges, it's common. You will often find a hard hat sitting on a rear parcel shelf, stereo branding stickers on the rear windows (Alpine, Fusion, Pioneer) and number plate surrounds for random sporting clubs etc.

[Adr3naL1N]

Why the hell would they NEED 8s? The XR6T is more then capable and for anything they can't catch they get the helicopter to chase them :)

.

on a similar sorta note, on sat nite in the city i saw a taxi XR8, i was like wtf? even though its more then likely on gas why would a taxi company need a 8? never seen that before its the only one i seen, i saw the trademark bonnet buldge of the xr8 and sure enough on closer insection saw the xr8 badges on it.

[Drift_R32]

Forgetting the fact that there actually isn't a XR8 in operational use, and the WA Police don't use any 8 for anything operational why the hell would they use 8s when they are deploying Astras and WRXs as they move towards a more 'green' fleet?

Does this not come across as retarded to anyone else?

Why the hell would they NEED 8s? The XR6T is more then capable and for anything they can't catch they get the helicopter to chase them :)

As for Chevy badges, it's common. You will often find a hard hat sitting on a rear parcel shelf, stereo branding stickers on the rear windows (Alpine, Fusion, Pioneer) and number plate surrounds for random sporting clubs etc.


its not about NEEDING v8s, its about how they can diguise a car to lure you into a sense of safety and then fuking you right up the arse. the cops dont have to have a reason for anything..they do watever the fuk they want whenever the fuk they want. and with constant funding from radars etc why wouldnt they

think having astras and rexs aren't part of a greener force, its just an excuse to hide sirens, officers and lights in a car that wont be looked at a police car.

[Brute]

on a similar sorta note, on sat nite in the city i saw a taxi XR8, i was like wtf? even though its more then likely on gas why would a taxi company need a 8? never seen that before its the only one i seen, i saw the trademark bonnet buldge of the xr8 and sure enough on closer insection saw the xr8 badges on it.

Taxis are privately owned. You just drive for the company, so you can nearly have anything you want as a taxi.

[fourseven]

its not about NEEDING v8s, its about how they can diguise a car to lure you into a sense of safety and then fuking you right up the arse. the cops dont have to have a reason for anything..they do watever the fuk they want whenever the fuk they want. and with constant funding from radars etc why wouldnt they

think having astras and rexs aren't part of a greener force, its just an excuse to hide sirens, officers and lights in a car that wont be looked at a police car.

Sorry mate, but this is the most retarded forum post I have ever read.

Let me clarify a few things for you:

1. Cops can't do whatever they want but 9 times out of 10 the people they target often don't know their rights, don't know how to talk to Police, or think that being arrogant toward the Police is acceptable which tends to justify any potential action the Police take.

2. Revenue from infringements goes to the government mate, not to the Police.

3. There are cars that exist in the fleet that don't have lights, sirens, radio equipment or computers that are considered true 'undercover' cars. Unless you are in the job you won't ever spot one. The Police already hide their presence on the road with these true covert cars, they don't need a bunch of Astras and WRXs to do that. Further, dickhead Karl launched a massive campaign about them going 'green' showcasing the marked Astras and the marked WRXs. If he wanted keep them quiet he wouldn't have done this would he?

http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,21898616-2761,00.html

I'm going to end it here because obviously there is a hatred toward the cops (I share this hatred to an extent as well) I was merely trying to offer some information that someone might find helpful. Just because there is some clown behind you with a light on his roof attempting to stop you, doesn't mean you don't have rights!

Being a car enthusiast forum there would be plenty of people on here who understand that it just isn't practical to have cops rolling in 8s, when they get a Police pack XR6T that will hose any 8 out of the factory.

/the real end of my rant!

[AGIT8D]

Somehow I think you have more to say !! :) Can't wait for chapter 3! :D

[fourseven]

Somehow I think you have more to say !! :) Can't wait for chapter 3! :D

Hah don't encourage me ;)

[eScoRt20]

ive seen a white old falcon wagon with fesa on the side with the same style/look of lights that cops use.... maybe some of these cars that people have seen with lights are really FESA or other emergency services cars?

[RICEY]

Sorry mate, but this is the most retarded forum post I have ever read.

Let me clarify a few things for you:

1. Cops can't do whatever they want but 9 times out of 10 the people they target often don't know their rights, don't know how to talk to Police, or think that being arrogant toward the Police is acceptable which tends to justify any potential action the Police take.

2. Revenue from infringements goes to the government mate, not to the Police.

3. There are cars that exist in the fleet that don't have lights, sirens, radio equipment or computers that are considered true 'undercover' cars. Unless you are in the job you won't ever spot one. The Police already hide their presence on the road with these true covert cars, they don't need a bunch of Astras and WRXs to do that. Further, dickhead Karl launched a massive campaign about them going 'green' showcasing the marked Astras and the marked WRXs. If he wanted keep them quiet he wouldn't have done this would he?

http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,21898616-2761,00.html

I'm going to end it here because obviously there is a hatred toward the cops (I share this hatred to an extent as well) I was merely trying to offer some information that someone might find helpful. Just because there is some clown behind you with a light on his roof attempting to stop you, doesn't mean you don't have rights!

Being a car enthusiast forum there would be plenty of people on here who understand that it just isn't practical to have cops rolling in 8s, when they get a Police pack XR6T that will hose any 8 out of the factory.

/the real end of my rant!

XR6Ts have massive potential in the modifiers market but in the Police use of them they remain stock as far as I know. That being the case the Holden 6.0 is hardly going to be "hosed" by a stock XR6T.

[iluv2moan]

....adding the ultimate hoon car to their fleet
.....The vehicles of choice are the Holden Astra turbo diesel and the Subaru Impreza WRX, a high performance car popular with young hoon drivers.

why was that part in bold added to the article?? think it has more to do then just going green

ive also seen federal cop cars gettign around the traps and have seen that they are allowed v8s

[RGVFAST]

i had a undercover falcon behind me today, with a XR8 bonnet bulge, had no badging thou

[Drift_R32]

Sorry mate, but this is the most retarded forum post I have ever read.

Let me clarify a few things for you:

1. Cops can't do whatever they want but 9 times out of 10 the people they target often don't know their rights, don't know how to talk to Police, or think that being arrogant toward the Police is acceptable which tends to justify any potential action the Police take.

2. Revenue from infringements goes to the government mate, not to the Police.

3. There are cars that exist in the fleet that don't have lights, sirens, radio equipment or computers that are considered true 'undercover' cars. Unless you are in the job you won't ever spot one. The Police already hide their presence on the road with these true covert cars, they don't need a bunch of Astras and WRXs to do that. Further, dickhead Karl launched a massive campaign about them going 'green' showcasing the marked Astras and the marked WRXs. If he wanted keep them quiet he wouldn't have done this would he?

http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,21898616-2761,00.html

I'm going to end it here because obviously there is a hatred toward the cops (I share this hatred to an extent as well) I was merely trying to offer some information that someone might find helpful. Just because there is some clown behind you with a light on his roof attempting to stop you, doesn't mean you don't have rights!

Being a car enthusiast forum there would be plenty of people on here who understand that it just isn't practical to have cops rolling in 8s, when they get a Police pack XR6T that will hose any 8 out of the factory.

/the real end of my rant!


a) yet to see RIGHTS get you out of a yellow sticker on a undeserving car and been pulled over for a random beathtest everytime a cop sees you becuase u fit the description of a hoon.
b)where does the police get its money from? specially the money for certain points of action like the hoon crack down which has yet to yeild any solid result yet its still been pushed forward and well funded.
c)i see more "undercover" cops then marked cars pulling people over. whats the need for such a massive ammount of undercover cars..yeh like 4 new 4cyl cop cars is gonna affect the massive ammount of fuel etc used by the rest of the force.

d) unforuntately i have little faith in the police force and not really much like for them. i have my reasons..one been my ute which was stolen and driven 2000km up north and back with stolen plates on it, looking like a shitter without been even looked at. yet i was pulled over daily in the city.

[fourseven]

XR6Ts have massive potential in the modifiers market but in the Police use of them they remain stock as far as I know. That being the case the Holden 6.0 is hardly going to be "hosed" by a stock XR6T.

The Police 'special' XR6T has both modified suspension and ECU, not entirely sure of what other modifications are made but they aren't factory stock.

Edit: All cars categorised as "Class 1" which are authorised for any pursuit have a whole bunch of reinforcement modifications as well, intrusion bars etc.

[RICEY]

Curious to know whats modified ECU wise..

[fourseven]

Curious to know whats modified ECU wise..

Can't help you there, beyond my knowledge. :)

[Drift_R32]

one gave it shit from the lights i was standing at..didnt sound stock ill give it that, but definately stock boost. just exhuast sounded different, arent they only allowed to pursue up to 110kph anywasy ?

[fourseven]

one gave it shit from the lights i was standing at..didnt sound stock ill give it that, but definately stock boost. just exhuast sounded different, arent they only allowed to pursue up to 110kph anywasy ?

140km/h.

[RICEY]

Can't help you there, beyond my knowledge. :)

Im betting you could find out

[fourseven]

Im betting you could find out

Haha I'll try and find out for you.

[cplagz]

There's a place near Maylands traino that modifies a lot of the cop cars. ie, puts all the livery on them and light bars... not sure if they do under the hood also.

[Adam]

There's a place near Maylands traino that modifies a lot of the cop cars. ie, puts all the livery on them and light bars... not sure if they do under the hood also.

Drive past it everyday of the week, I've come to the assumption of them just doing the sirens/lights/electrical and such.. doesn't look like they tweak mechanical shit there.

[Steppo_GT]

so say for instance you're getting pursued and you go over 140km/h do they stop and call for the helicopter or keep going, because if they stop you'd lose them easy wouldn't you?

Also when there's high speed chases etc how come they say the vehicle pursued reached speeds of eg. 180km/h. How would they know the exact speed if they aren't allowed over 140km/h?

[Smoked]

The stock xr6 turbo's exhausts actually do have a bit of a note, maybe enough to get you to think that its aftermarket.

Im pretty sure its just a mail order pretuned ecu plug and play deal. Too much fking around dyno'ing every one of them, and the word would have got out alot faster and easier if one of the workshops we know had of been doing it..
This workshop near maylands would most probably install the ecu as its a fairly basic job.

As for the VE SS cop car, ive definately seen them, in orange and green.

And yes, i do know the difference between a VE SS and a VE SV6, from a mile away. The wheels are different and theyre badged.

Im yet to see an XR8 cop car, they trialled them in sydney and canned them in favour of the XR6 turbos due to reasons we already know about.

They originally canned the v8 police cars because they were using gen3 executives with 220kw and possibly chipped as well that only had fe2 suspension and 225/60/15 spec tyres buldging on pursuities. The combination just does not work. You try hammering along with that setup itd be pretty bloody hairy.

There are gen3 VT ss sedans and VX sedans that run freakish 12's with tune and exhaust only! the povo cop spec executive with the gen3 chipped would run a good time if it had traction, but as you know mike turanzas arent good for much even at 24psi ;)

[Docile]

I highly doubt the cops get tunes from Capa, CV, KPM or wherever for their boosted taxis. Just doesnt work like that and they certainly wouldn't be paying $1200+ (edit is say $450 + a tune) to have them custom tuned either. ALL generic tunes seem to differ and when you buy the edit, its still recomended you get a dyno tune to make sure things are safe.

[fourseven]

so say for instance you're getting pursued and you go over 140km/h do they stop and call for the helicopter or keep going, because if they stop you'd lose them easy wouldn't you?

Also when there's high speed chases etc how come they say the vehicle pursued reached speeds of eg. 180km/h. How would they know the exact speed if they aren't allowed over 140km/h?

During a pursuit, the lead car constantly calls the road conditions, speed, weather etc and a radio supervisor listening it would tell them to abort once it hit 140km/h.

During a pursuit, VKI often places other vehicles ahead of the chase. When one car aborts, a car up the road is allowed to engage.

Usually with reporting the speed, they estimate how long it took them to get from A to B during the pursuit and estimate. Most of the quoted speeds in pursuits is media bullshit.

[fourseven]

As for the VE SS cop car, ive definately seen them, in orange and green.

And yes, i do know the difference between a VE SS and a VE SV6, from a mile away. The wheels are different and theyre badged.


The ironic thing here is the newest cars to be added to the fleet that stand out (there are several new FG Falcon's marked) are 1x green SV6, and 1x orange SV6. That's all I will say on that :)

Edit: Also a new XR6T in orange recently purchased as well.

[RICEY]

The stock xr6 turbo's exhausts actually do have a bit of a note, maybe enough to get you to think that its aftermarket.

Im pretty sure its just a mail order pretuned ecu plug and play deal. Too much fking around dyno'ing every one of them, and the word would have got out alot faster and easier if one of the workshops we know had of been doing it..
This workshop near maylands would most probably install the ecu as its a fairly basic job.

As for the VE SS cop car, ive definately seen them, in orange and green.

And yes, i do know the difference between a VE SS and a VE SV6, from a mile away. The wheels are different and theyre badged.

Im yet to see an XR8 cop car, they trialled them in sydney and canned them in favour of the XR6 turbos due to reasons we already know about.

They originally canned the v8 police cars because they were using gen3 executives with 220kw and possibly chipped as well that only had fe2 suspension and 225/60/15 spec tyres buldging on pursuities. The combination just does not work. You try hammering along with that setup itd be pretty bloody hairy.

There are gen3 VT ss sedans and VX sedans that run freakish 12's with tune and exhaust only! the povo cop spec executive with the gen3 chipped would run a good time if it had traction, but as you know mike turanzas arent good for much even at 24psi ;)

VE SS and VE SV6 have the same wheels, the VE SS-V gets the different wheels and I doubt theyd spend the extra coin on the V for the cops.

[RICEY]

During a pursuit, the lead car constantly calls the road conditions, speed, weather etc and a radio supervisor listening it would tell them to abort once it hit 140km/h.

During a pursuit, VKI often places other vehicles ahead of the chase. When one car aborts, a car up the road is allowed to engage.

Usually with reporting the speed, they estimate how long it took them to get from A to B during the pursuit and estimate. Most of the quoted speeds in pursuits is media bullshit.

Im friends with one of the VKI guys do you know any of them?

[fourseven]

Im friends with one of the VKI guys do you know any of them?

Only 1 by name, he's a yank.

[RICEY]

Dont know him haha

[Deke]

just seen a car get pulled over outa the plex by a 06-07 wrx it was the standard blue with stock rims? had a cannon and lights on visors and back window then came up past us.

[fourseven]

Im betting you could find out

Apparently the ECU is modified before Police take delivery, so I'm assuming it is Ford or a Ford performance center that is doing the ECU mods.

When the lease runs out on the vehicle, or it's time to get rid of it the ECU is usually flashed back to stock (many have been sold without being de-tuned, he says). The modified suspension however is often left in the vehicle.

I say apparently because this guy isn't exactly a car nut, so don't quote me on any of this! He was also rambling on about the old Holdens running HSV spec engine management. Not sure if he means pre-VT days or what.

[1JZVL]

:/

doooodgy

some nice info in this here thread. thanks lol

find it weird that the POLICE are allowed to use XR6Ts but not the slower XR8, I don't understand :(

[Alt_F4]

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doooodgy

some nice info in this here thread. thanks lol

find it weird that the POLICE are allowed to use XR6Ts but not the slower XR8, I don't understand :(
Legislation is not based on power, but simply based on engine type.

[DCIEVE]

The ironic thing here is the newest cars to be added to the fleet that stand out (there are several new FG Falcon's marked) are 1x green SV6, and 1x orange SV6. That's all I will say on that :)

Edit: Also a new XR6T in orange recently purchased as well.


chris has already asked, but does an organised crime task force ring any bells? many years back we had a run in that was very strange to say the least. pathfinder with 4young guys flashing badges and driving like lunatics - they called ahead to uniforms who did the pulling over but they still wrote the stickers that were signed organised crime squad or something along those lines. we were never sure if they were yanking our chain or just on a power trip

[hostage_85]

:/

find it weird that the POLICE are allowed to use XR6Ts but not the slower XR8, I don't understand :(


Legislation is not based on power, but simply based on engine type.

I will tell you know, I know that before they were not allowed to use V8's. My mate has told me this, whether or not new legislation has passed allowing it or what i dont know, but he has specifically said they are now getting V8's. And I asked my missus last night to double check i heard him right when he said it, and shes was liek "yeh, he definatly said there getting an XR8" So whether or not they could use V8's before, they can now!

[Alt_F4]

I will tell you know, I know that before they were not allowed to use V8's. My mate has told me this, whether or not new legislation has passed allowing it or what i dont know, but he has specifically said they are now getting V8's. And I asked my missus last night to double check i heard him right when he said it, and shes was liek "yeh, he definatly said there getting an XR8" So whether or not they could use V8's before, they can now!

I've got a feeling its limited to 'Highway Patrol' fleet.

[fourseven]

I will tell you know, I know that before they were not allowed to use V8's. My mate has told me this, whether or not new legislation has passed allowing it or what i dont know, but he has specifically said they are now getting V8's. And I asked my missus last night to double check i heard him right when he said it, and shes was liek "yeh, he definatly said there getting an XR8" So whether or not they could use V8's before, they can now!

I just asked about this and the response is the same I've already given you. The fleet manager said there are no 8s in the Police fleet for operational use.

The Police union are actively trying to get the new (FG) XR6Ts removed as they have been deployed without intrusion bars, and the deputy state coroner considered the lack of intrustion bars one of the major factors of why the police officer died in the V8 Commodore in Glen Forest in 2000.