F1 2009 chat thread

[SimonR32]

where did u find that quote tj...

i dont think the relationship between him and the team is going to last too much longer, its been brewing for a while

[iluv2moan]

dont think marks the best of overtakers - i think rubens could have held him up either long enough to win the race - or to let vettel catch up to him.

still would have been a closer race.

he definately had the luck of a clear track the whole race.

[Brockas]

So fucking happy.


Webber you absolute legend.

[TJ]

where did u find that quote tj...

i dont think the relationship between him and the team is going to last too much longer, its been brewing for a while

He said it live on the fom feed after race, mate saw it and played it back to get his words.

[TJ]

dont think marks the best of overtakers - i think rubens could have held him up either long enough to win the race - or to let vettel catch up to him.

still would have been a closer race.

he definately had the luck of a clear track the whole race.

No- Rubens couldnt hold him up. The second mark caught him, he had to pit.

In the few laps between that and marks stop he put so much time on rubens that he was never going to be behind him at any point in the race.

[wadragracing]

Congrats to Webber!!! Finally!!!
As for Barichello, makes you wonder if the fuel rig problem was really there or if they were just trying to get him behind Button...

[iluv2moan]

orelse they purposly just put 1 sec more fuel in for him to slow him down.

can understand his frustration. looks like he dropped off the pace though on his own accord though. if he truely felt that hard done by, should have just let alonso past him haha

[Brockas]

orelse they purposly just put 1 sec more fuel in for him to slow him down.

can understand his frustration. looks like he dropped off the pace though on his own accord though. if he truely felt that hard done by, should have just let alonso past him haha
Do you actually watch the races or just comment to look cool?



It's not the first time Rubens has had issues like this:

http://www.forumula1.net/2008/f1/f1-news/brawn-fuel-rig-problem-cost-rubens-second-place/

[iluv2moan]

yes i watched the race... now what u getting at?

unlucky? rigged? or rubens fault?

[fourseven]

I can't believe I am saying this but iluv2moan might have a point.

Ross Brawn has admitted that the team lost Rubens the race...

[Lonewolf]

I can't believe I am saying this but iluv2moan might have a point.

Ross Brawn has admitted that the team lost Rubens the race...

yeah, but from a fuel rig malfunction?

[TJ]

They are dreaming. Mark had them covered for pace all race long.

[Sully]

rubens has now said that now he's seen the numbers he understands that he had no chance of winning the race, red bull were too fast even without the fuel rig fuck up


In Brawn GP's official post-race media statement, Barrichello was quoted as saying the reasons for his failure to win ‘are now very clear to me having spoken to the team’. (http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090712190619.shtml)

[esky]

rubens set the 11th fastest lap of the race, he was miles off race winning pace

[Brockas]

yes i watched the race... now what u getting at?

unlucky? rigged? or rubens fault?


orelse they purposly just put 1 sec more fuel in for him to slow him down.

The delay in the pits was nothing to do with how much fuel went in?

It was a rig malfunction. Whether deliberate or not, has nothing to do with amount of fuel going in.

[iluv2moan]

think u missed my point.

luke mentioned perhaps the fuel rig mitake might have been done on purpose.. but they could (not saying they actually did) have easily just put in an extra 1 sec of fuel in if they wanted to put him behind button

[TJ]

Its alot easier to fake a drama by saying fuel rig failed, then by adding more fuel then it needed.

With all the computer stuff in F1 these days, someone could easily generate date to prove they over fueled him.

[fourseven]

Mario Theissen has confirmed that Formula One will drop KERS at the end of the year after just one season with the device.

This year's Championship saw the introduction of the Kinetic Energy Recovery System, however, only four teams, including BMW, have actually used it.

And although two of those four, including BMW, have axed the device, deciding that the power advantage it gives is not worth the extra weight the cars have to carry.

For next year, though, none of the teams will be using KERS with Theissen confirming that the FOTA members have voted against it.

"We have discussed the KERS issue within FOTA and we had a majority agreement not to use KERS next year," Theissen told Reuters.

"We had supported KERS but we have committed to the agreement... so we will not run KERS and there was no FOTA member voting for KERS."

The German, though, isn't willing to write KERS off as a bad mistake, insisting it has its uses.


Thank fuck for that!

[satch]

Agreed

However both Force India & Williams and the three new teams who are not part of FOTA, have announced nothing of the sort, so we may well see KERS on cars next year.

Williams device is not battery based and they reckon its all the power without the weight penalty.. so might not be the end of that rule.

[iluv2moan]

might be wrong here, but cant see why f1 want to intorduce cost cutting yet pushing for these new technology advancements like kers makign it out that they will be compulsory, then after most of the money has been spent trying to develop somethign that doesnt appear to be all that worth it, are talkign about dropping it

[esky]

Kers was introduced to please an EU environmental panel that suggested F1 be restricted because of the enviromental impact it was having, lots of plane flights in carting gear around, race fuels noise polution etc

it was agreed that they would take steps to use f1 techincal capacity to develope new environmentally friendly technologies that could be used in mainstream automotive industries. nothing creates innovation like competion

i would guess that they'll claim that in the current finacial crisis they cant sustain the costs of developing such systems

[T-Diddy]

Mark Webbers contract has been renewed with red bull racing till the end of 2010 for now

worth apparently 10million

[manna_85]

anyone else watching atm? what the hell hit massa in the head!? still waiting on info atm hope hes alright.

[beefcake]

fark me how spooky is that shit :eek3:

[mc68]

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/07/25/felipe-massa-crashes-heavily-after-being-struck-by-debris-during-qualifying/

fear severe brain trauma :(

fuck, very scary

[Lonewolf]

apparently ok, crazy bad luck to get hit in the head!

[Bomber]

Massa has been taken to hospital but his injuries are not though to be serious. He is, however, not expected to take part in the race. Ferrari will not be allowed to use a replacement driver unless the stewards agree they may do so under force majeure. Article 19.1 of the sporting regulations states:

During a season each team will be permitted to use four drivers. Changes may be made at any time before the start of the qualifying practice session provided any change proposed after 16.00 on the day of scrutineering receives the consent of the stewards.

Additional changes for reasons of force majeure will be considered separately.

Update: Massa’s injuries have been confirmed as bone damage to his skull and concussion. He will require an operation and is in intensive care. I hope he makes a rapid and full recovery.

+1 for full and speedy recovery!! Crazy bad luck indeed.

[DCIEVE]

bit of a different story to formula1.com who are saying its a cut above the eye!

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/7/9667.html


It was subsequently confirmed that Massa was conscious following the accident and that he has sustained a cut above his left eye, which is not believed to be serious.

[Bomber]

bit of a different story to formula1.com who are saying its a cut above the eye!

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/7/9667.html

Check out the updated news from the same site.
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/7/9671.html


“Felipe was conscious at the arrival at the hospital,” said a Ferrari statement, adding that Massa had suffered a cut on his forehead, concussion and a bone lesion of the skull. These conditions need to be operated on, after which he will remain under observation in intensive care."

[TJ]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77288

He should be ok. Big impact to take to the head, very unlucky.

[zeroyon]

fractured skull is pretty bad. poor bastard. Last I heard he is intensive care, induced coma and hoping to wake him sunday.

Wonder if brawn will cop a fine. You'd feel bad if you were part of that team.

[mc68]

bit scary considering a driver died instantly in F2 a few weeks back, taking a wheel to the head. never thought they could be so venerable

[Bomber]

Taken from perth-wrx, courtesy of theprotest






Looks like a VERY decent whack. OOOOOOWWWWWWIIIIIEEEEEEESSSSSSS

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/3551/755343f.jpg (http://img22.imageshack.us/i/755343f.jpg/)

[siamak]

Fuck me, can't believe a spring can do that.

[jonn]

When you think of the speed he was traveling at I'm surprised the damage wasn't worse.

[fourseven]

Yeah that's fucked up. Another statement just came out saying they hope to wake him tomorrow, so induced coma it is. Hopefully he makes it through without too many complications.

[DRKWRX]

fark hes luckily it didnt hit a bit lower probaly would have gone straight through!

[ben351]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77288

He should be ok. Big impact to take to the head, very unlucky.

ummmmmm nert.

[TJ]

I meant ok as in non fatal. Recovery is another thing.

1 hour to go!!!!

[ben351]

lol dude he has brain damage .... hes not going to be ok at all.

[TJ]

Where does it say that?

Latest updates (as of an hour or so ago) suggest surgery was successful, and they will wake him out of a coma later today

[ben351]

oon news he sustained brain damage they wont know the extent until he comes out of coma

[Tocchi]

yeh the doctors report on the news said he had brain damage but wont know until out of the coma

[esky]

hamilton gonna win this

nice pass on webber

[fourseven]

Worst fucking F1 race ever, and it's not even over.

Massa in hospital, Nando out, Hamilton leading.

FML.

[TJ]

YES YES YES YES!!!!

[Roobiks]

fuck yeah! hamilton!
shove that in your pipe and smoke it haters!

[fourseven]

In more important news:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/jul/26/michael-schumacher-ferrari-niki-lauda-felipe-massa

If it happens, it's going to be on!

[wadragracing]

In more important news:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/jul/26/michael-schumacher-ferrari-niki-lauda-felipe-massa

If it happens, it's going to be on!
That would be massive if it happened...but chances would have to be low.

[TJ]

Wont happen.

BTW fuck yerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!

[ED40]

Hope he doesn't. Would be a shame if he returned to the sport and got owned!

[JME]

So unlucky for Alonso, had all the traits of a flawless victory for him. Such is racing. Great race, decent action, and the championship is only starting to warm up!!!

[Roobiks]

So unlucky for Alonso

werd. felt for the poor bugger tonight. was deserving of a podium imo

[TJ]

No chance, Alonso wouldnt have even come close to winning that.

He was half a second lighter per lap on fuel yet Lewis caught him in about 3 laps once past Mark.

[Brett_J]

He didnt catch him, he was still a good few seconds off easily, but I did say that Alonso would lose the race on first pit, which he did.
Why is it when someone gets a podium in god knows how long all of a sudden they are WDC potential?
Everyone knows each race has potential for different outcomes, and this season has been the least consistent for a while.

[TJ]

Go recheck the timing Brett - he drove straight up to the back of Alonso - into that infamous 1ish second area where you get the turbulent air.

This is cool.

http://i30.tinypic.com/347fa4i.jpg

[iluv2moan]

shuey looks out of shape with few extra kilos on these days - dont think u will see him behind a racing f1 car again.

[esky]

hamiltion was 1.2 seconds behind alonso when alonso pitted. hamilton reduced it from 3.4 seconds down too 1.2 in 3 laps

alonso was also 10 laps lighter on fuel, he just didn't have the pace to win today

[Brett_J]

No right you are, I read it as you said he caught him in about 3 seconds once he passed webber.

Funny hearing Hamilton tell the pit crew he loved the car and it was a pleasure to drive, pretty sure he hasn't felt that way about it most the season.

Im happy, Kimi came 2nd.
Was impressed with glock, Nice to see Toyota being more consistent these days.

[fourseven]

This is cool.

http://i30.tinypic.com/347fa4i.jpg

Strength, Felipe, we are with you.

[Bomber]

Strength, Felipe, we are with you. Nice touch from the team. Good win to Lewis, been awhile but true champions are never kept down forever.

I don't know about Schumacher making a return, Bernie would certainly be up for it!! Looks like they always had a 'special' relationship :idb:
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5027/bernie1.jpg (http://img198.imageshack.us/i/bernie1.jpg/)

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9122/bernie2.jpg (http://img200.imageshack.us/i/bernie2.jpg/)

WTF???!!!

And found this while cruising the net. Flavio Briatore's wife, farkn hot!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1078727/Flavio-Briatores-stunning-wife-sends-temperatures-soaring-lingerie-collection.html

[TJ]

No wonder the German is smiling!

And im sure youd find many a bombed women keen to marry a guy worth a couple hundred million :D

[iluv2moan]

then divorce shortly after?

[TJ]

http://premium.f1-live.com/f1/photos-hires/2009/gphungaroring/diapo_357.jpg

[TJ]

http://premium.f1-live.com/f1/photos-hires/2009/gphungaroring/diapo_358.jpg

[TJ]

http://premium.f1-live.com/f1/photos-hires/2009/gphungaroring/diapo_369.jpg

[TJ]

http://premium.f1-live.com/f1/photos-hires/2009/gphungaroring/diapo_354.jpg

Taking Webber for 2nd.

[iluv2moan]

celebrating as much as webber winning his first f1 race hahah

whats those 2 black bits in your 2nd pick of him standing in cockpit?

[esky]

Renault have been banned from the European Grand Prix in Valencia on August 23 by the International Motorsports Federation (FIA).
The FIA took the drastic action after a wheel flew off the car of former world champion Fernando Alonso during Sunday's Hungarian Grand Prix with the team accused of not respecting security rules.

“Renault are suspended from the next event of the 2009 world championship,” said a FIA statement.

The French outfit announced they would appeal the ban.

“Renault F1, by this document, formally registers its intention to appeal against the decision by the officials,” Renault wrote in a letter to the FIA.

Stewards summoned Renault officials to explain why pole-sitter Alonso's right front right wheel was incorrectly fitted and was allowed to leave the pits.

Video and radio transmissions were studied, and found that Renault “knowingly” allowed the Spanish driver to rejoin the race with a loose wheel nut.

[mys1]

celebrating as much as webber winning his first f1 race hahah

whats those 2 black bits in your 2nd pick of him standing in cockpit?



On his shoulders?

Hans Device,

Stops necks snapping when they hit the wall...

[iluv2moan]

nah near his knees

[fourseven]

On his shoulders?

Hans Device,

Stops necks snapping when they hit the wall...

The HANS doesn't stop the neck snapping, it only reduces the chances. It is meant to reduce the chance of basilar skull fractures as well which is what they believe Felipe Massa suffered. There were also early reports that the only reason he isn't dead is because the HANS device held his neck into position after the crash and stopped further damage.

[fourseven]

Renault have been banned from the European Grand Prix in Valencia on August 23 by the International Motorsports Federation (FIA).
The FIA took the drastic action after a wheel flew off the car of former world champion Fernando Alonso during Sunday's Hungarian Grand Prix with the team accused of not respecting security rules.

“Renault are suspended from the next event of the 2009 world championship,” said a FIA statement.

The French outfit announced they would appeal the ban.

“Renault F1, by this document, formally registers its intention to appeal against the decision by the officials,” Renault wrote in a letter to the FIA.

Stewards summoned Renault officials to explain why pole-sitter Alonso's right front right wheel was incorrectly fitted and was allowed to leave the pits.

Video and radio transmissions were studied, and found that Renault “knowingly” allowed the Spanish driver to rejoin the race with a loose wheel nut.

So, who is putting their money on Fernando driving for Ferrari in Europe? :)

[Kye]

Ferrari have described as ‘positive’ the outcome of a CT scan carried out on injured driver Felipe Massa on Sunday morning. Massa was awake for some time and has now been returned to an induced coma to aid his recovery.

Massa sustained concussion and a fractured skull during his high-speed qualifying crash at the Hungaroring on Saturday, when he was struck on the helmet by a damper spring from the Brawn car of Rubens Barrichello.

After undergoing emergency surgery in Budapest’s AEK Hospital, Massa was kept under observation in intensive care overnight, suffering no complications. The Brazilian remains in a stable condition and is expected to spend at least the next two to three days under close medical supervision.

He was visited by Barrichello and by FOM CEO Bernie Ecclestone on Saturday evening, before several members of his family, including his wife, flew in from Brazil to be by his bedside on Sunday. Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo will travel to Budapest on Monday.

Sounds like he will be ok but surely wont be back in the seat for a while

[fourseven]

Rubens has been visiting him, updating his twitter stream with news.

Apparently Massa reacted well when his parents arrived so they are hoping there will be no long term damage. His manager has said 2-3 months out, if not the season.

[cplagz]

I wanna know how the f*ck a damper spring that's supposed to be "captive" came out of the Brawn car..... surely the FIA should be investigating that along with Alonso's wheel incident.

[iluv2moan]

was the spring just bouncing in the ar when he hit it? or drove ove rit and flicked it up himself?

[fourseven]

I wanna know how the f*ck a damper spring that's supposed to be "captive" came out of the Brawn car..... surely the FIA should be investigating that along with Alonso's wheel incident.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8169206.stm

[TJ]

It was bouncing down the road, and due to the aero of the cars, it got sucked in.

Freak accident.

Renault will appeal, they will race in Spain.

As for alonso to ferrari, get the fuck out.

[esky]

i don't think renault will win the appeal

with one bloke dead in gp2 and another seriously fucked up from loose objects, F1 won't want the bad press if they back down over the loose wheel. they need to be shown as taking it very seriously.

[fourseven]

Renault will appeal, they will race in Spain.

There is not a hope in hell of them racing. The death of the F2 driver from a tire from another car... Renault are out.

Edit: beaten by esky!

[iluv2moan]

think its more the fact the team let him out knowing the wheel was loose - not the fact the wheel actually come off.

[mys1]

correct, Thats pretty fucking disgracefull if thats the case and deserve a penalty

[TJ]

Until proof is provided, i simply refuse to believe the team let him out knowingly.

Makes no sense.

[esky]

The wheel guy would have known straight away it wasn't tight or on correctly

alonso drives rejoins track

wheel guy tells pit manager, manger radios alonso

all they had to do was instruct him to come back to the pits, thus giving orders to drive around knowingly with a loose wheel

i would think its pretty much open and shut case

[fourseven]

Again, early reports about radio transmissions and how they were reviewed by officials but now, they are nowhere to be found.

I'm with TJ though. Renault are being used as an example.

[esky]

without doubt they are being made an example of

[TJ]

The wheel guy would have known straight away it wasn't tight or on correctly

alonso drives rejoins track

wheel guy tells pit manager, manger radios alonso

all they had to do was instruct him to come back to the pits, thus giving orders to drive around knowingly with a loose wheel

i would think its pretty much open and shut case

How do you know the wheel guy would know?

Maybe the nut seemed tight but wasnt?

I cannot see this occuring

"fuck i didnt tighten that, better not say anything or flavio will be pissed. no will notice it , right?"

Cars have driven back to the pits numerous times in the past with loose/missing wheels.

Both Kubica and Vettel tried to drive on with serious damage after their Melbourne clash, no ban for bmw and rbr.

[esky]

both got large fines

the replays showed the wheel guy still trying to fix the wheel as he drove off. weither its right or wrong the FIA is saying, the wheel guy at a minimum knew it wasn't tight. the team therfore knew. the team therefore let alonso drive with a loose wheel.

plus there had to be some sort of communication. anything that implies continuing to drive drops them in it

[fourseven]

If that F2 driver hadn't been killed, they would've copped a fine only.

/argument.

:P

[cplagz]

They were saying that the aero thing on the wheel is what caused the wheel nut to come undone. When they do the stud up - the wheel cover is then "clicked" into place. It wasn't done when he drove off, spinning around and undoing the wheel nut.

[Bomber]

Renault with 1 shit driver and wheels falling off > McLaren

/ arguement

peace tj haha

[TJ]

Mcaren which was 2.5 seconds off the pace and shit driver > Renault

How many wins this season each ?

<3 phil!

[TJ]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77367

Positive news

[mys1]

good news indeed!

[fourseven]

Not so good however:



Doctors say it is too early to judge whether Felipe Massa will race again after it was revealed on Monday that the Brazilian suffered damage to his left eye in his Hungarian Grand Prix crash.

Massa is still in hospital recovering from a skull fracture and concussion after he was hit in the face by a spring from Rubens Barrichello's car.

Local media quoted the hospital's professor Robert Veres from Budapest as saying that the eye injury could be enough to end Massa's F1 career.

"He has suffered some damage to the eye," said Veres. "We don't know whether he'll be able to race again."


http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77379

[Bomber]

Not so good however:



http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77379

:( :( :(

[TJ]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77383

More current update, and more positive. Best wishes!

[mys1]

There wont be a full answer for a while still early days, People interpret what the hospital says to quickly.

Time will tell.


On another note, Ferrari havent anounced who the stand in driver will be.

All they have said is that if the need arrises it will be a good choice.

[jonn]

Schuey to make a return for the rest of the season? I wonder if he has kept up his super license or whatever they need these days?

[esky]

he has because he jumps in the car seat at the ferrari test track every now and again

still cant see schuey racing tho. whats he got to gain? he can't win a world title. the ferrari most likely wont win a race so theres no motivation there and its not like he needs the money.

he's done the smart thing and retired near the top of his game as the best driver ever. why come back to run around mid field as another also ran.

ferrari need to trial someone thats a potential full time replacement. worst case for massa he might not be back, so they need to start covering this sooner rather then later

[Tocchi]

what about montoya?

disgruntled F1 driver that always wanted to be with ferrari.... now racing in Cup Series (nascar), but not getting results.

[Bomber]

Hell, Jaques wants a drive in F1 again :lol: :lol: :lol: Never happen.

[iluv2moan]

what about montoya?

disgruntled F1 driver that always wanted to be with ferrari.... now racing in Cup Series (nascar), but not getting results.

he might not be getting results - but he sure is getting the money

[fourseven]

Luca di Montezemolo told AutoSport that they were in discussions with Schumacher last night but once again, I can't find the fucking article. I could see him taking Massa's place temporarily given how close they are. Would Schumacher give a shit about his results? Probably not... but how awesome would it be for him to jump in Massa's car and win, straight up. Wishful thinking for me.

Some great news here though... Massa could walk out of hospital within 10 days.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77391

Edit: Fresh of the press, Schumacher may consider a return.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77395

Hell. Fucking. Yes.

[fourseven]

And quickly shutdown.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77396

God damn you!

[TJ]

Was NEVER going to happen

Near 40
Hasnt raced in 3 years
Has never driven the car

[fourseven]

Was NEVER going to happen

Near 40
Hasnt raced in 3 years
Has never driven the car

None of which matters as a fill-in. He can't win a championship, he would only be a fill in so it's not a 'come back' and I'd bet my house he can still peddle.

I can still dream :)

[TJ]

Epic dream too.

He retired after a BRILLIANT drive in Brazil, why come back, be shit, and taint that?

[fourseven]

You're assuming he would be shit!

Seriously though, you're right... it has the potential to ruin a great legacy. We need something to improve this shit season though.

[TJ]

Sunday seemed to go bloody well from my point of view :D

7 more of those please!

[Sully]

on the massa replacement issue, everyone seems to be forgetting that ferrari have 2 contracted test drivers waiting in the wings for this exact situation. i think it's badoer and gene at the moment. the logical move is for either of those two to just step straight into the car. they've presumably spent some time in the car already even though there is the huge restriction on testing this season.

schumacher was never realistically going to happen, the whispers of alonso are stupid - flavio would never agree to helping ferrari like that, villneuve i can't see getting in even though he's keen as, bourdais got the arse for a reason, and senna has already said no to a midseason start with anyone so the test drivers are still the best options.

[TJ]

Last time Ferrari needed a mid season fill in, they skipped their test drives and hired Mika Salo.

[fourseven]

It would work well for Alonso if the suspension isn't overturned. The Spaniard not driving in Spain is a bit of a let down!

[Sully]

true but he did make a bit of a habit of chopping and changing mid season.

edit* if by some freak chance alonso does drive for ferrari for the race, any drivers points go to him and team points go to ferrari just to mix things up. can't imagine renault will be happy about giving points to another team.

[fourseven]

BMW out?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77398

[TJ]

Find out at end of the day it seems.

Pretty strong rumour. No good.

[Butcher]

And here
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/jul/29/bmw-quit-formula-one

[Brockas]

Not really a surprise though.

If Toyota hadn't scored so many points this season, I would have expected them to pull out as well.

[TJ]

Fucking Germans, just like WW2

Get close to dominantion the year before, but turn around to concentrate on another goal.

Then they fail hard, so they bail out

:)

[Brockas]

Nice.

[fourseven]

And they're out.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77400

[TJ]

They could sell it to Mario and his friends and call it super mario?

[fourseven]

They could sell it to Mario and his friends and call it super mario?

Mario Kart :wave:

[fourseven]

MICHAEL IS BACK.

GAME ON!



Michael Schumacher, the seven-times world champion, plans to come out of retirement as Felipe Massa's replacement at Ferrari from the European Grand Prix.

Following days of speculation about who would slot in alongside Kimi Raikkonen following Massa's Hungarian GP crash, Ferrari issued a statement on Wednesday afternoon confirming that Schumacher was being prepared for the role.

The statement said that Schumacher was 'ready' to make his F1 return, and would undertake a training programme over the next few days to ensure he was up to full fitness for an F1 race.

http://www.michael-schumacher.de/?page=news&story_id=82078&lang=uk
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77418

[Sully]

fuck me sideways i did not see that shit coming! it's all over every f1 related site too so i doubt it's bullshit. i hope ferrari, mclaren, brawn and red bull are all on the pace for the next race. bit of renault wouldn't go too far astray either.

schumi, kimi, hamilton, button, webber, vettel, alonso all going at it. that'd be fucking awesome. although i can't wait to see schumi v barrichello after rubens having a few ferrari hissy fits early this year. game the fuck on!

ps, great way to steal bmw's thunder :lol:

[fourseven]

Definitely not bullshit.

www.ferrari.com

:)

[TJ]

WOW!

wow, wow, wow.

I dunno what else to say.

[cplagz]

WOW!

wow, wow, wow.

I dunno what else to say.

How about omgwtfbbq? Or Wow might possibly work too?

Replace WOW with YES, add crackly radio transmissions and TJ = the new Mark Webber

[fourseven]

Win or lose... it doesn't matter. It's going to be great seeing him drive again.

[big o]

dirty crout bastard

he will probly smash into every one like he used to.

ferrari can do no wrong.

[Joe]

Farkkkk yeah.

Everyone in Italy will be going nuts right about now, they are about the biggest Michael Schumacher fans you've ever seen in your life.

I cannot wait to watch him drive again, even better when we go to the SG F1 in September, and I get to see him drive in person.

[Skitzo]

say what!?

He's got 4 weeks to prepare with 2 weeks of practice/testing behind the wheel. Shall be interesting to see how he goes. If the mother fucker wins, i"ll be pissed.

[jonn]

Was NEVER going to happen

Near 40
Hasnt raced in 3 years
Has never driven the car

Never say never :)

Isn't testing banned for the next 4 weeks or is that car development only?

[fourseven]

Never say never :)

Isn't testing banned for the next 4 weeks or is that car development only?

He can hit the vritual test track as much as he wants.

:werd:

He has been preparing for this since 2007 anyway: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/12/12/1197135500022.html

[EVLO]

Was NEVER going to happen

Near 40
Hasnt raced in 3 years
Has never driven the car


Epic dream too.

He retired after a BRILLIANT drive in Brazil, why come back, be shit, and taint that?


Ferrari issued a statement on Wednesday afternoon confirming that Schumacher was being prepared for the role.





http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/foot-in-mouth.jpg

[TJ]

Yeah I was way off, way way off.

[EVLO]

aww, was hoping you'd fire up a little at least..

you're no fun.. :(



<3

[Skitzo]

Never say never :)

Isn't testing banned for the next 4 weeks or is that car development only?

Isn't it 4 week holiday, 2 of those weeks nothing but administration type stuff?

[TJ]

Yup - no development work for 2 weeks.

There is no mid season testing anyhow.

[mys1]

FUCKING BOMBED N SHIT!

[MikeS14]

Schuey is a made kent!
Looks like BMW is pulling out at the end of the season too.

[djr81]

Yup - no development work for 2 weeks.

There is no mid season testing anyhow.
Actually there is no mid season anything at the moment. Teams are only allowed to do asset maintenance ie mow the friggin lawn & sell merchanise I think.

What are the odds of Kimi not signing an amended contract that forces him finish second to Schumacher all the time? Actually what odds Kimi telling Ferrari to gwngtfkd.

[esky]

well i couldn't have been more wrong either

still think its a daft move, but will be entertaining if nothing else

at least lewis will be able to say he beat the great michael schumacher...


the other interesting thing, if he does go alright will they want massa back? i can see pingpingpingpings throwing springs and all kinds of shit at massa if he gets better and replaces shuey if he's winning

[Brockas]

Was NEVER going to happen

Near 40
Hasnt raced in 3 years
Has never driven the car

ba bow.

[iluv2moan]

still might not happen.........

wouldnt say its 100% confirmed just yet.

[Brockas]

Hope it does, am pretty excited to see him back in an F1 car.

[iluv2moan]

likewise - never really been a big fan of him, but would bring back some excitement to the sport, even if its just for a round or 2. will be interesting to see how well he goes considering he apparently hasnt driven the car before.

[MGR]

Hasn't raced for years (let alone driven the 09 car) and is older than Rubens. He's not expected to be competitive.

But if he finishes in front of the likes of Hamilton, Button, Vettel etc he'll be hailed as the greatest hero the history of the world.

Win-win for Schuey.

[Lonewolf]

even his manager had no fucking clue, lol.

Will be awesome to see if it comes to fruition.

[fourseven]

at least lewis will be able to say he beat the great michael schumacher...


Wow, held back a bit there. I was waiting for you to compare them.

[TJ]

No point comparing is there? Not fair comparing someone as good as Lewis to Mikey!



/end stir :D

[fourseven]

No point comparing is there? Not fair comparing someone as good as Lewis to Mikey!



/end stir :D

http://www.derapate.it/img/_michael_schumacher_vs_ralf.jpg

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/09UE2prgrL4i8/610x.jpg

http://www.cliffreuter.com/diapo_120.jpg

http://media.canada.com/gallery/formulaone/14schumacher.jpg

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/00698/sport-graphics-2008_698057a.jpg

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45634000/jpg/_45634103_lewis_hug300.jpg

[Lonewolf]

interested to see how he takes to the differences in cars
different aero, slicks, and KERS

[TJ]

http://i28.tinypic.com/2ntcpxt.gif

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00078/michael_schumacher_f_78664a.jpg

http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/23500/Michael-Schumacher--23952.jpg

[mys1]

He raced in the days of no Driver aids as well,

I think people will be surprised how well he adapts. the guy is a freak like it or not.

[TJ]

No doubt Tyson, its actually a bad thing for RBR and Brawn - he could cost them both points that decide a wdc.

He will be fast, I dont think anyone here disagrees.

[FranZ]

You guys all think that he hasn't driven an F1 full stop this year - I think you're all very naive! He was driving in tests pre season this year. The only thing that may be of a concern IMO is his fitness; his skills will be there.

[TJ]

I believe the last time he drove a car was april 2008 Franz, Id need to double check.. ive been wrong about him already this week :D

[fourseven]

http://www.iran-daily.com/1383/2161/html/011052.jpg + http://www.iran-daily.com/1383/2161/html/011052.jpg + http://www.iran-daily.com/1383/2161/html/011052.jpg + http://www.iran-daily.com/1383/2161/html/011052.jpg + http://www.iran-daily.com/1383/2161/html/011052.jpg + http://www.iran-daily.com/1383/2161/html/011052.jpg + http://www.iran-daily.com/1383/2161/html/011052.jpg

http://www.autoracingdaily.com/images/featured/Lewis-Hamilton123.jpg

/game over

[TJ]

LOL WHOS THE NIGGA IN THE BACKGROUND

[Bomber]

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/6315/crashf.jpg (http://img116.imageshack.us/i/crashf.jpg/)

[fourseven]

LOL WHOS THE NIGGA IN THE BACKGROUND

Nelson!

[flamo_damo]

LOL WHOS THE NIGGA IN THE BACKGROUND

Samuel L Jackson lol

[DRKWRX]

back to the Cotton Fields for Lewis!

[Lonewolf]

man, so need a funny caption thread, could be epic on here.

Black dude is obviously wondering if there's fried chicken in the championship cup!

[Roobiks]

Black dude is obviously wondering if there's fried chicken in the championship cup!

He's scoping for security cameras.. Nigga's pocketing the buffet watermelons!!

[fourseven]

Ralf Schumacher said his brother's return is great news for Formula 1.

"He was itching to come back. But no one expected that," Ralf told German television network N-24. "After all the bad headlines on the sport recently this is absolutely great.

"Nothing better could have happened for Formula 1 than my brother coming back."

So what happens when he comes back, wins some, and wants to stay on next year?

[Bomber]

So what happens when he comes back, wins some, and wants to stay on next year?

He could do a Ross Brawn and buy a team. MS was on $160mil/yr when he was racing towards the end.......


Hmmmm, BMW is for sale and BMW is German too.............

Long live the master of the in lap and wet weather racing!!!

[TJ]

160 a year, maybe from endorsements businesses etc etc, cos he was on about 40 from Ferrari

[Brockas]

So what happens when he comes back, wins some, and wants to stay on next year?

They have a replacement for Kimi?

[fourseven]

They have a replacement for Kimi?

Both Kimi and Felipe have contracts until the end of 2010.

If Schumacher is successful and wants to continue, he will get top spot again, no doubt. So someone is going to end up emo...

[fourseven]

160 a year, maybe from endorsements businesses etc etc, cos he was on about 40 from Ferrari

In 2006 his income from Ferrari was $60 million, and when he retired his net worth was estimated at $800 million.

The Michael Schumacher Collection is what makes him the big bucks. Fuck knows how much that is worth!

[Butcher]

I dont think ferrari would give a toss if they had contracts till 2010, if Michael genuinely said im having fun and want to go after the championship next year, they would do anything to make it happen.

[Silencio]

pay-outs is what makes the world go round

[Sully]

there was a headline that popped up and very quickly disappeared on a few f1 sites yesterday that was saying kimi was open to a full time rallying seat next year so that could make things interesting.

maybe alonso's future at ferrari isn't looking quite as cemented as it did 2 days ago. whatever happens, it's going to be fucking epic. i just hope all the big name teams are on the pace for the next few races. see how they all stack up agian

[fourseven]

there was a headline that popped up and very quickly disappeared on a few f1 sites yesterday that was saying kimi was open to a full time rallying seat next year so that could make things interesting.


Something like that.


Kimi Raikkonen admits he is considering a move to the World Rally Championship as he takes part in his debut event.

The 2007 F1 World Champion is contesting this weekend's Rally of Finland, pitting his Abarth Grande Punto against the world's best rally drivers.

However, rallying is not new to the Ferrari driver, who has previously driven in a few domestic events, and it could be where his future lies.

"Yes definitely," he said when asked if he would consider a permanent move to rallying.

"I am still in F1 and still have one more year contract but everything is open and it is nice to be a part of it here."

[fourseven]

It has begun.



Michael Schumacher has began his preparation to return to Formula 1 action at the European Grand Prix next month.

The seven-time world champion will replace Felipe Massa in the Valencia race as the Brazilian continues with his recovery following the accident he suffered at the Hungarian Grand Prix last weekend.

Schumacher travelled to Ferrari's factory in Maranello yesterday, where he worked at the static simulator to check the functionality of the steering wheel.

The German has borrowed an F2007 car and he is reported to be testing at the Mugello circuit today since 11am.

and...


The FOTA teams have made an unprecedented decision to allow Ferrari to break the testing agreement and let Michael Schumacher have a day’s running in a current F60.

Schumacher is already in action today at Mugello in an obsolete 2007 car, which pictures show is on slick rather than grooved tires. In theory they should be special Bridgestone ‘demo’ tires rather than pukka 2009 racing slicks.

However as we exclusively revealed earlier Ferrari wrote to the other teams requesting permission for Michael to have a one-day test in the new car. That would allow him to get a feel for slick tires and learn all about KERS and movable front wings before he goes to Valencia, thus giving him a much better chance of making an impact on his first weekend back.

To further complicate matters in addition to the test ban teams have either started or will about to start their mandatory two-week factory shutdowns, and clearly giving Schumacher a test could eat into that time – unless it happens in the next couple of days at Mugello. There is also the possibility of the team using the time to try new parts on the car.

However the FOTA teams have agreed to let the run go ahead.

FOTA Vice-Chairman and Toyota F1 boss John Howett told SPEEDtv.com: ‘I believe all FOTA teams have agreed to accept their request. The situation for Felipe is very unfortunate, and this is a sporting gesture which we are confident Ferrari will respect.’

It’s not known whether Williams and Force India, the two teams currently standing outside FOTA, have also agreed. Unanimity is required if it is to go ahead.

The curious thing is that Ferrari’s letter said that the proposed test was ‘in order to properly evaluate the possibility for his comeback.’

A cynical view might be that his test in the F2007 today would have been more than adequate to judge his fitness and any potential neck problems arising from his February motorbike crash, and that a run in the F60 was therefore not essential.

[fourseven]

The latest on Schumi's testing.



Schumacher set a best time of 1m23.736s, and although the unusual machinery made direct comparisons difficult, the fastest time recorded during the Ferrari F60's week-long test at Mugello in January was a 1m23.981s by Massa.

And a short video.

http://video.gazzetta.it/?vxSiteId=f89d11d6-1424-420d-8ebb-23904200f68a&vxChannel=Formula1&vxClipId=2570_64c5d706-7de0-11de-a4fc-00144f02aabc&vxBitrate=300

[TJ]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77534

FUCKING SNAP!!

And rightly so.

[Bomber]

Pffft

Someone of his skill and experience will be up to speed after Practice in Spain. You watch, he'll be out there for every second he can.

[TJ]

Yup he hasnt got much choice now anyhow.

[fourseven]

RBR and Toro Rosso have opposed it to, but I don't know why they bothered.

[satch]

sounds like Williams are still cranky from when they got the boot from FOTA.

Looks like Renault have canned Piquet too. :wave:

[TJ]

RBR and Toro Rosso have opposed it to, but I don't know why they bothered.

Because TR's new guy asked for the exact same thing and got told no.

[TJ]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77538

Gooodbye whingey!

[fourseven]

Because TR's new guy asked for the exact same thing and got told no.

So they claim...

[TJ]

Haha you dont actually believe they would claim it when its totally false?

FIA "no you didnt"

Fail for TR

[fourseven]

Absolutely.

I don't for one second believe Ferrari would ask for permission for Schumacher, a 7 time world champion, to be given the opportunity to test the F60 if they or other FOTA members had denied TR's request for someone's debut drive. Not for a second.

It's pretty clear why Williams spoke up. I think Dietrich is jumping on the bandwagon because he sees Schumacher's return as a major threat to RBR's potential success.

[fourseven]

So there was a request for Jamie Alguersuari to test. SFM didn't have a problem with it though.


Ferrari also revealed it had given Toro Rosso its approval to test rookie Jamie Alguersuari ahead of his debut in Hungary.

"Guess who opposed the test with the F60? A team that hasn't won anything for years and yet didn't pass over the opportunity to demonstrate once more a lack of spirit of fair play," Ferrari wrote in its official website under a news piece title 'Indiscretion'.

"Just for the record, the Scuderia Ferrari had given its approval to let Alguersuari test, but it seems even in this instance someone decided to stick to the precise wording of the regulations."

Red Bull boss Dietrich Mateschitz also said yesterday that his teams were opposing the test.

Respect to VMM for not having a problem with it. Still think Lewis is a prick though.

:3some:

[TJ]

Ferrari might of agreed, but someone else didnt, so it got blocked.

Exactly the same result here, so all is well.

[jonn]

Schuey's out! No return to F1 for him due to neck injury

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/default.stm

[TJ]

Hahhahahahaha!!!!

[TJ]

What I meant is, such a shame.







hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahh ahahahha

[satch]

feel sorry for the poor suckers who coughed up to go see him return at Valencia...

[fourseven]

Yeah pretty emo right now.

[MikeS14]

geez
let down is an understatement

[Adam]

Lol at ticket sales in Valencia. Wonder how many will pop up on ebay now.

[Crimson]

Epic disappointment. Poor bastard though - how much pain is he in to not race? Very ouch.

[Sully]

i would imagine fractured vertebret and F1 g forces don't really mix all that well. in an interview he did say that he's putting his F1 comeback off "for now" possibly in by seasons end if his neck gets better or epic return next year?

on a side note, if renault don't win their appeal and shumi isn't racing then valencia are fucked! it's a cool looking circuit and all but from memory it's another track where overtaking is all but impossible in these current cars. see what happens

[mys1]

I think it is a shame that Schui's neck isnt fit enough to race. A real dissapointment to say the least.

[Banana_Beast]

but hopefully he will be fit enough to get in the 3rd car for next season

[iluv2moan]

soo many ifs and buts about his return. foolish to think that he was going to race based off first reports.

[mys1]

At the end of the day they made no secret of it, and it pretty much came down to Docotrs giving the OK for his neck wich did sustain a fairly bad injury!

I fail to see how thats many Ifs and butts?

[Sully]

well seeings as everyone was shooting down the idea of him even considering making a comeback like 3 weeks ago nothing would surprise me now. he obviously wants to come back and race in F1 otherwise he wouldn't have gone through everything he has in the last few weeks. If teams are allowed to run 3 cars next year and he's keen then i wouldn't be at all surprised if he comes back, ferrari have already said they're keen

[TJ]

After a long break, the Renault ban scandal, the Schumacher returns then doesnt story, and the enforced break for all teams, we are back racing this weekend.

Last year provided us with a boring race around an uninspiring venue.

Will this weekend prove to be a repeat? We hope not.

Its been so hard to predict results with this crazy season, so here is my ideal finishing order -

Lewis
Mark
Rosberg
Glock
Heikki
Vettel
Badoer
Sutil

Brawns to not score after buttons beard blinds him and ross brawn asks rubens to run a 40 stop strategy to not ruin buttons image.

[fourseven]

No love for Kimi!?

This is how it will go down...

Kimi
Hamilton
Webber
Alonso
Button
Vettel
Barrichello
Rosberg

[TJ]

Car he drives is a little too red these days for my liking.

[mys1]

I think youll find the KERS cars will be competeitive.

Ideally id like to see Webber with another win, with Lewis and Kimi punting off brawn and keeping Mark in the points woudl be pretty allright :)

[TJ]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77771

Hes fucked.

[fourseven]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77771

Hes fucked.

Wonder who his replacement will be. Kimi might be looking for a new seat next year.

:wave:

[Brockas]

Rosberg at Mclaren for sure....

[TJ]

Wonder who his replacement will be. Kimi might be looking for a new seat next year.

:wave:


I believe he would retire rather then go back


Rosberg at Mclaren for sure....

Looking likely. Kubica wont because he will be wanting a number 1 role.

[Brockas]

Isn't Kimi looking for a seat in WRC?

[Sully]

that's the rumour going around. if ferrari are keen for him to stay in F1 then i think he'll stay but if they want to clear him out for alonso then he'll probably take a shitload of cash from them of mosey off to wrc. he was putting in good times in rally finland before he rolled.

[Bomber]

he was putting in good times in rally finland before he rolled.

LOL, I can put in good times before I roll too!! It's staying on 4 wheels and reaching the end that's the trick :lol:

[iluv2moan]

LOL, I can put in good times before I roll too!! It's staying on 4 wheels and reaching the end that's the trick :lol:

<insert reference to webber>

[fourseven]

Isn't Kimi looking for a seat in WRC?

Perhaps. I think Ferrari are going to force him to make that decision now with talks of paying out half his contract. Depends if he wants to go or not.

[Bomber]

<insert reference to webber>
This one? LOL
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9255/0639223500.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/i/0639223500.jpg/)

[TJ]

Fucking lol - saving that one for another webber obsessed forum im on

[Bomber]

Just a quick reminder to anyone interested that Qualifying is on in 30 mins (8pm) for the Telefonica GP of Europe from Valencia.

Some surprise results with Force India's Adrian Sutil setting the quickest times in free practice and Vettel having mechanical failure, in order:
1. Sutil
2. Nakajima
3. Kubica
4. Kovalainen
5. Rosberg
6. Button
7. Hamilton
8. Trulli
9. Grosjean
10. Buemi
11. Barrichello
12. Heidfeld
13. Raikkonen
14. Alonso
15. Glock
16. Webber
17. Alguersuari
18. Badoer


It’s clear that several fancied runners were unable to conduct their programmes and were thus not where they might have been expected to be, so qualifying this afternoon will have extra spice as they seek to make up ground.

[fourseven]

Hamilton is raping quali.

[fourseven]

Hamilton
Kovalainen
Barrichello
Vettel
Button
Raikkonen
Rosberg
Alonso

Well done to McLaren.

[TJ]

Boyyyyyyyyyahhhhhh!!!!!!

Now to finish the race like that while Webber charges to 3rd while Vettel and Button write each other off

[satch]

first and last race for Badoer id say.

[fourseven]

first and last race for Badoer id say.

Marc Gené has more experience in the F60 but I don't think it is going to make a difference whether it's Luca or Marc.

Schumi needs to toughen the fuck up and get behind the wheel.

[iluv2moan]

1st: hamilton
2nd: rubens
................
7th: webber

[wadragracing]

Looks like Webber was a little cheated, passed Button who then took the shortcut but didn't yield...looks like Button is holding them up.

[fourseven]

I just won $1200! Vettel, first to retire!

THANKS SPORTSBET.COM.AU!

[Tocchi]

NICE. how you much you bet ?

[MGR]

McLaren McFucked Lewis :lol:

[fourseven]

I'll pick up an extra $250 if Barrachello keeps fastest lap to.

Hamilton Snr wasn't too happy with that pit!

[fourseven]

BEST FUCKING F1 RACE EVER!

$1200 later, Hamilton didn't win, Kimi on the podium.

The only thing that would've topped this is Schumi starting.

[Bomber]

Nice work on the winnings. Might have to pay some immediate attention to sportsbet.com.au from now on

[iluv2moan]

good win for rubens

i was foolish to think webber could finish higher then he qualified

[satch]

Marc Gené has more experience in the F60 but I don't think it is going to make a difference whether it's Luca or Marc.

Schumi needs to toughen the fuck up and get behind the wheel.

Agreed on Schumi, perhaps if Massa doesnt make it back this year..

I do think Marc will do a better job as he is still racing on and off. Besides i dont think you could do any worse a job than Badoer did.

Good job on the winnings!

[fourseven]

NICE. how you much you bet ?

Put $50.00 on Vettel retiring first (at $25.00) after joking with a mate about Vettel's engine replacement yesterday. New engine, bound to have issues. 2 engine failures in 1 weekend is just bad luck. It's actually $1300 in my pocket, not $1200.

23-08-2009 20:18 Single - Formula 1 - European Grand Prix - Outright Winner
Grand Prix of Europe - Sebastian Vettel - $50 Win - First Driver To Retire (Pending) $50.00 26.00 Pending $0.00 $-50.00

Too bad Timo Glock picked up fastest lap :(

:werd:

[TJ]

Hows ya mate badoer going there?

Unhappy lewis didnt win, but kinda not upset about it because seeing Rubens win after 5 years is freaking awesome.

RBR have had themselves a disaster.. but should destroy the field at spa. Need a couple of DNF's from Button, with a couple of wins from lewis and some solid points from Ruben and Mark to really turn this into an interesting title race.

[fourseven]

Hows ya mate badoer going there?

Unhappy lewis didnt win

Haha hopefully Marc will get the seat after Spa.

To be honest, I think Hamilton definitely deserved to win. It's a shame that the pit stop was such a fuck up for him, because he did well from the very start.

[mys1]

Hamis old man looked pretty fucking pissed! Lol, half expected him to go on a rampage punching people out!

[Kye]

LOL had a good laugh when I saw him shooting rage eyes at all the crew.

Who the fuck are you?? Sit down, keep Nicole whats-her-face happy and STFU.

[Brockas]

Worst F1 race ever. Rubens wins and RBR doesn't score. FML.

[TJ]

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll29/phil1993aok1/1965-1-belgie.jpg

So we are off to one of the all time classic tracks this weekend - spa.

The above pic is from 1965 - i dare safety has improved a bit since for all involved!

[mys1]

lol, looks pretty safe to me....

Pretty damn keen for this one!

[TJ]

Kimi could be on for a win here - he is brilliant (unless it rains and he is dicing with lewis, then he hits walls)

[iluv2moan]

this is going to be a very interesting race

[Crimson]

Fisi on pole? Didn't see that coming. Should be a really interesting race - love Spa. :)

[fourseven]

What the fuck happened in qualifying? Hamilton 12th? Fisichella on pole.

Jesus.

[TJ]

I wrote this on another forum Im on 10 minutes before qualifying


Fisi for a amazing pole, Vindaloo Murrali to die of a heart attack!

Now, had I know that would have come true, I would have thrown every single dollar to my name against it.. wonder what it was paying out at? Anyhow, what a great day for F1 in general - great to see the small guys doing so well. Toyota 2nd, BMW third. Rubens 4th, Button nowhere hahahaha!!

Its going to be an insane race. If the trulli train slows down the pack enough ... Fisi could leap so far down the road in 13 laps that he could win this.

If it rains watch the mclarens and rbr chew the field up.

[iluv2moan]

if we are predicting the start - rubens to be up in 2nd b4 first chicane

trulli by far heaviest of the front runners, pretty impressive time. would be good to see toyota have some success.