Buying build motor?

[PAGZ]

does anybody no where to buy built motors from? preferably rb's or ej's

[Deke]

danny at JPC can get them in i know a couple people have bought built sr's and rbs from him. number is 92010400

[colt75]

^

JPC definetly has em, a few RB26's last time i checked.

[PAGZ]

u guys no what the going cost is for a 26? forged cam'd etc
edit: tried calln them but no1 picked up

[colt75]

yeah theyre closed for the moment.
danny is in japan
supposed to be returning next week

[TJ]

tomei genesis donk cheap cheap

[kneedtotinkle]

lol

[kneedtotinkle]

build your own as YEN is bad, better off doing pistons rods and drop in or step 2 cams.

Otherwise do a RIPS combo.

[scj91]

if you want to go just go a rb30 with a 26 head.

Who needs a built motor? :P

[Brockas]

u guys no what the going cost is for a 26? forged cam'd etc
edit: tried calln them but no1 picked up

sitting down?


Going rate for a 2nd hand built RB26 is about 12k.

Building one yourself with the yen the way it is now, you're looking about 18k at a bare minimum for something decent.


Thats not including turbos/inlet manifold, ecu, injectors, coilpacks, etc etc etc.

[kneedtotinkle]

2nd hand built is a possible grenade though....

If you are going to go down the built path do it right the first time and dont waste money on crap.

Cheapest is a set of rods and pistons off a trader on SAU or ebay, and get it done through a cheap contact. (if you know someone)

VL RB30 will cost you a bit due to 4wd adapter plate, and moving of bits and pieces due to the increase in height. Saying that, get a non forged RB30 and belt the daylights out of it good for 600hp from RIPS - stock bottom end with freshen up and rod bolts.

[kneedtotinkle]

Turbos arent cheap at the moment, injectors you can get a set of 800cc for $700 second hand, reg, bosch o44 intank, haltech or power fc, cooler, oil pump, n1 water pump.

[PAGZ]

is buying built really that bad? my aim is 550 - 600rwhp at the end of the project not really sure on the budget right now but im willing to break my balls for it :wackit:

[kneedtotinkle]

minimum $20k to $30k depending on what you buy second hand etc. Dont forget labour for motor in/out building/checking (strip down) of motor, head, tuning, fluids etc etc. All adds up.

What GTR are you wanting to do this build in? R32 GTR are more money to build due to the age and R33 GTR's are now starting to get to the heights of needing restoration...

[PAGZ]

If i end up doing the build itl probly be done to a 34, so u rkn nate 20 - 30k would get into the 600 area?

[DISTRBD]

2nd hand built is a possible grenade though....



New build can be grenade also , i recall reading somewhere about a top $$$ secret spec head failing so any thing is possible

[cactus]

Buy my built 25 :)

[kneedtotinkle]

if in a 34 more on the $30k side.

An issue with a head sticky guide is not a grenade... But atleast when it is built from scratch you know what was done to it and who did it.

[Alt_F4]

+1 for RIPS
NEO 25/30 in a GTT would be deadly :D

Expect to budget for decent brakes, gearbox etc.

[kneedtotinkle]

Another thing, if you are intending on doing it to a 34R be prepared to change the input shaft in the getrag as they dont like 600hp+ at treads. Seeing as you are building close to its limitations i would change the input shaft to the NISMO upgrade. Stock brakes are ok with braided lines, better pads and brake master cylinder stopper.

[Silencio]

30k for rebuilds.... christ

ill stick to what a famous bunno man once said

STOCK ROCKS !!!!!!

[DISTRBD]

30k for rebuilds.... christ

ill stick to what a famous bunno man once said

STOCK ROCKS !!!!!!

Good ol bunno, where the meth labs run freee

[JME]

I wouldnt build an LS1 in japan, i wouldnt build an 2J/RB/EJ in Australia.

buy from the mother country and bask in the glory!

[kneedtotinkle]

you've changed, one word - speedworks...

[JME]

NO im wiser.


You on the other hand called your puppy 'JUN'.

[Alt_F4]

PAGZ, just buy Ant's 2.7L 32R... bargain of the year at $26K

[PAGZ]

yeh i no, but the funds rnt here yet other wise id do sum surgery and a little transplant ;)

ps. my brute > yours:banana:
ps.s mods can close this thread b4 it goes off topic

[joshg123]

Whats funny is its not just RB's and big motors that cost big dollars,

My built motor in the red car would easily owe me 12-13k inc turbo and what nits though. When you start talking billet this, custom machined that..... big $$$

Building everything myself, at highest trade scale pricing, not paying for headwork and machining.

[mattyj]

stay away from buying built motors from over east or over seas. For starters there are plenty of great engine builders over here. secondly if anything does happen to go wrong, shipping your motor back (which 9/10 times you will have to foot the bill for) to the builder will be both expensive and just a pain in the ass.

Stick with quality parts from the USA and you cant go wrong.

[TJ]

Yeah, buying a Japanese motor full of American bits makes sense.

[Fryman]

Yeah, buying a Japanese motor full of American bits makes sense.

it absolutely does actually.

especially for the boys that are ex bogan spec and have faith in the stuff they have used before.

theres a orange gtr with tempes and decals getting around FULL of american parts, not one jap part in the build, even down to the motec and the individual temperature sensors on each cylinder (autometer)

challenege him to a jap vs american buildoff and see who comes out. There are plenty of american stuff for 2j and 26, not saying its better but its definately out there. saying its better is comparing apples to pears

[Lonewolf]

yeah, once something becomes popular in the states, stuff either comes out cheaper, or at least gives you some options with choice.

not much availabe in japan for my engine, but can get headers and valve springs from the states and cams from new zealand.

[TJ]

it absolutely does actually.

especially for the boys that are ex bogan spec and have faith in the stuff they have used before.

theres a orange gtr with tempes and decals getting around FULL of american parts, not one jap part in the build, even down to the motec and the individual temperature sensors on each cylinder (autometer)

challenege him to a jap vs american buildoff and see who comes out. There are plenty of american stuff for 2j and 26, not saying its better but its definately out there. saying its better is comparing apples to pears

Motec is Australian Lukian, no American.

That orange GTR, the one with the massive turbo, ITS if I recall. It was talked up that it would roll 800hp at Autosalon last year, and it didnt even get close. Just over half of that if I recall. Blame that on tuning etc, but the sum of its part certainly didnt set the world on fire yet.

Now for all the built 26's packing JDM love in WA.
Simon, Bobbo, Ant, - 10's
Brockas has got some Pauter stuff in his and its going fine so thats an exception.
Gav Beer, Scott Lockhart, Chris, all at the front of the track game for GTR's - all build with Jap stuff.

Hioctane GTR's - both of their cars run full Jap builds.

Look at all the biggest hitters around the world... not too many US built cars setting the world on fire.

[fsbk]

sitting down?


Going rate for a 2nd hand built RB26 is about 12k.

Building one yourself with the yen the way it is now, you're looking about 18k at a bare minimum for something decent.


Thats not including turbos/inlet manifold, ecu, injectors, coilpacks, etc etc etc.

holy shit! is that 18k with labour included? i had no idea it was that expensive! was thinking about getting a junker 32 with popped engine and decent body. that idea looks to be going out the windows as a "cheaper alternative".

[iluv2moan]

Look at all the biggest hitters around the world... not too many US built cars setting the world on fire.

u joking??

yanks didnt get gtrs so product developement never took off over there as far as they concerned... look at the big hitter supras and i think u will find japan has nothing on the states...

what about evos?? dont see many 1400 rwhp evos come out of japan

i think u forget where gas motorsports and pac etc get their drag cars from

[mattyj]

Not all, but alot of the Japanese performance parts are either forged chinese steel and machined in japan or both forged and machined in china. Not all chinese stuff is bad, hell even some of the bigger american companies now have cheaper chinese based parts in their catalouges to stay competitive.
When talking reliable big HP builds american is the only way to go in my opinion.

[Alt_F4]

^ some of the better jap stuff is actually from England and german companies

[TJ]

u joking??

yanks didnt get gtrs so product developement never took off over there as far as they concerned... look at the big hitter supras and i think u will find japan has nothing on the states...

what about evos?? dont see many 1400 rwhp evos come out of japan

i think u forget where gas motorsports and pac etc get their drag cars from

You do realise this is about RB26 powered cars right?

[iluv2moan]

does anybody no where to buy built motors from? preferably rb's or ej's

doesnt sound like he is specifically talking about an rb26


Yeah, buying a Japanese motor full of American bits makes sense.

nor do u in this statement


Motec is Australian Lukian, no American.

That orange GTR, the one with the massive turbo, ITS if I recall. It was talked up that it would roll 800hp at Autosalon last year, and it didnt even get close. Just over half of that if I recall. Blame that on tuning etc, but the sum of its part certainly didnt set the world on fire yet.

Now for all the built 26's packing JDM love in WA.
Simon, Bobbo, Ant, - 10's
Brockas has got some Pauter stuff in his and its going fine so thats an exception.
Gav Beer, Scott Lockhart, Chris, all at the front of the track game for GTR's - all build with Jap stuff.

Hioctane GTR's - both of their cars run full Jap builds.

Look at all the biggest hitters around the world... not too many US built cars setting the world on fire.

why have an aussie ecu controllign a japanese motor?? makes as little sense as american parts in a jap motor

BTW its a turbonetics GTK not its

......sounds like your the only one specifically talkign about an rb26 engine

[DenZel]

You do realise this is about RB26 powered cars right?

says who?


Look at all the biggest hitters around the world... not too many US built cars setting the world on fire.

never said anything about rb26/gtr in that statement?

But if you were specifically talking about the rb26, considering the gtr didnt come out in the usa (as mentioned before) its hardly a fair comparsion.

[Lonewolf]

says who?



never said anything about rb26/gtr in that statement?

But if you were specifically talking about the rb26, considering the gtr didnt come out in the usa (as mentioned before) its hardly a fair comparsion.

exactly, same as wondering why aussie tuners are shit with corvettes...

[DCIEVE]

Yeah, buying a Japanese motor full of American bits makes sense.

:slap:

[Brockas]

Brockas has got some Pauter stuff in his and its going fine so thats an exception.
Gav Beer, Scott Lockhart, Chris, all at the front of the track game for GTR's - all build with Jap stuff.
Mine has Pauter conrods, ARP head studs, ARP rod bolts (all out of the USA). Then Jap everything else.
Gav Beer - Pauter Rods (may have changed during last build?)
Scott - Argo Rods (Australian)
Chris - Argo Rods (Australian)



Hioctane GTR's - both of their cars run full Jap builds.
Hi Octane cars run CP pistons, from the USA.



As long as its high quality gear, there shouldn't be an issue running USA or Australian gear in an RB26.

[iluv2moan]

waits for any facepalm, fail or backpedal internet cliche pics

[datsqik]

I dont see any problems running american parts in a jap engine as they make some of the best gear around. Trust rods are considered the strongest rods to come out of japan, these are simply straight H beam Carrillo rod with carr bolts in a different box.