gen1 rx suggestions?

[dexplosion]

From what I've been able to dig up on le internets it seems that there's a lack of parts available for my 82 rx7

Ideally I want coilovers all round.I haven't seen a set for an series too so what will fit? Or will I have to go ye olde shock and spring combo

5 stud conversion: apparently the fc hubs cant go on gen1 rx so is this going to have to be a custom job?

Cheers in advance you white devils xx

[MAZDABATOR]

advice get a newer rx lol. old ones are just becoming to hard to do anything to.

coil overs will only go in the front by the way have you had a look under the back of your car at all?

5 stud converion would be a waste of time also.

[dexplosion]

If I wanted a newer rx I would have got one im always up for a challenge. What do you mean by look under the back, what am I looking for ;D

[yeahlow34]

coil overs will only go in the front by the way have you had a look under the back of your car at all?

They're leaf sprung aren't they...

[MISS 13B]

dexplosion... Ground Control in the US make and sell coilover conversion kits for 1st Gen RX7's.
I think they require a bit of welding and modifying but it may be the closest thing you'll find.

http://www.ground-control-store.com/products/description.php/II=40/CA=23

Not sure if they ship Worldwide though.

[Lump]

They're leaf sprung aren't they...
nope, live axle tho

[Joe]

You can run coilies in front, but springs and shocks in back is your only choice... you can get coilover spring kits for the rear, but they arent a true coilover setup (spring and shock in one assembly).

Those Ground Control coilover spring conversions are good, as are the RE Speed ones. http://www.mrcmfg.com/respeed/

You can run 5 stud in the front by swapping an FC RX7 subframe in and then running FC hubs and brakes, but the rear is still 4 stud.

http://kahren.net/Manuals-Diagrams-Articles-etc/misc/swap.pdf

[dexplosion]

Cheers ms 13b and joe appreciate the help=)
Still im unable too find series 2 specific fronts. Are they made? Or shall this be a macgyver spec job

[Joe]

Series 2 are the same as Series 1 and Series 3, so anything from 1979 - 1985 will work. Also known as "1st Generation" or "SA22C"

[BP-13B]

If you want a more common stud pattern to find easier wheels.
Change your front struts & brakes to S3 which is 4/114.
These are better brakes than the earlier ones and only mod required is to the thread picth on the metal brake lines.
You can then redrill the rear to the same or get a s3 rear end with stronger diff & LSD.

Wilkinsons suspension will modify exitsing front struts into coilovers or you could do it yourself if you buy the kit and no what your doing.
Its meant to beeasy to do but I will be paying someone to do mine eventually.

[Pav]

Factory RE can make you up a set of front coilovers for a decent price. All you need to supply is the 2 front struts.

[easytiger]

You can run coilies in front, but springs and shocks in back is your only choice... you can get coilover spring kits for the rear, but they arent a true coilover setup (spring and shock in one assembly).

Those Ground Control coilover spring conversions are good, as are the RE Speed ones. http://www.mrcmfg.com/respeed/

You can run 5 stud in the front by swapping an FC RX7 subframe in and then running FC hubs and brakes, but the rear is still 4 stud.

http://kahren.net/Manuals-Diagrams-Articles-etc/misc/swap.pdf

When i had my s2 i was told a complete Hilux rear end is the way to go.
Strong lsd with friendly ratios and 5 stud and you get the brakes
i dont know too much more, i never ended up going thru with it

[mys1]

Coilovers arnt really needed in a first gen, They just need to be set up properlly.

Good set of springs and shocks, with camber tops.

Add to that some decent rubber and you've got a good handleing base

[dexplosion]

Possibly talk to the factory RE boys about converting my existing struts into coilovers
I intend to run it around the track both for timeattack and drift eventually so I want to have it set up the best I can't

Mys1 what shocks and springs did you run is your s1? Did you also have strut brace etc

Also heard of the hilux conversion, sounds pretty interesting and parts will be cheap and easily available. Anyone have any idea on how difficult it is to swap the rear over? Mounting problems etc
Also why im here what's the legal limit of rollcage points before its no longer considered a street car

Cheers lads

[TJ]

Probably better off jumping to a rotor specific forum dude

[NIPPY]

www.perthrotor.com or ausrotary.com theres plenty of people on ausrotary that know exactely what needs to be done.

[dexplosion]

Nothing but helpful
Cheers lads

Just an update. Got it started this arfternoon. Took it for a thrash around the yard. Ended up being blown fuse link and flat battery. Flames where involved. Fun begins!

[mys1]

Drift in a 1st gen isnt going to happen.

There are plenty of options, the factory RE guys know how to set them up for most things, They have a few 1st gen circuit cars.

jump on rx7club.com as well, even though american based, there are some guys that love to tinker with these.

Hilux rear ends dont just bolt in, you have to get them cut down re studded and custom fitted, Unless you can find one allready done and install it.


At the end of the day, it sounds like you want to do a lot with this car. you need to sit down and work out a few things.

1 What you want to do with the car
2 How much you have to spend on it
3 The best mods that are going to get the car to what you want to do with the car
4 the order in which you start doing these mods.


These are old cars, they need ALOT of work to get them up to scratch. Suspension brake and handleing wise. there just tired cars.

But they are great fun and when all finished im sure you will enjoy!

P.S. Change your fucking Avatar allready!

[JBAE]

http://www.mariahmotorsports.com/

http://www.selectmaz.com.au/home.htm

had ALOT more but lost them when i changed laptops :(

also think whiteline do a package was well priced when i brought mine was like 3-4 years back now....

[DrKarl]

Hope you checked it for rust before buying? some of these are ridiculous

[mr_rotary]

At the end of the day, it sounds like you want to do a lot with this car. you need to sit down and work out a few things.

1 What you want to do with the car
2 How much you have to spend on it
3 The best mods that are going to get the car to what you want to do with the car
4 the order in which you start doing these mods.


Pretty much spot on there! Don't bother with the coil-over set-up as it sounds like what you want them for is the 'cool' factor rather than what they are actually made for. I would start off with the following and with a budget of somewhere around $2k.
* Tokico Ilumina Shocks or similiar
* King Spring lowered springs.
* Urethane bushes throughout. However leave the rear trailing arms alone.
* Next size up sway bar.
* Adjustable camber tops.

Any more than this and your budget can start to skyrocket and starts to be custom made parts, from shocks to adjustable this and that. To get something like the factory RE vehicles, start looking at approx. $4k upwards plus labour.

Go have a chat with the Guy's at Wilkinson's Suspension centre. They know their RX-7's inside out.

Also don't bother with a 5 stud conversion, waste of money. However upgrade the discs, calipers and pads - See Rotomotion.

[dexplosion]

More than likely doing a subframe swap and hilux diff, seems to be the best option in the long run, cost isn't a factor, have plenty of friends qualified too help out, engineers etc
The fun soon begins

[mr_rotary]

Total waste of time and money doing a sub-frame swap. Many championship winners at the track still use the front assembly and a 4 stud pattern, albeit a S3 strut.
If you really really want a 5 stud conversion, save the hassle and purchase these which will convert your front and rear to S4-5 brakes and callipers.

http://mrcmfg.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=112_22_73&products_id=249&osCsid=002a80fec20eb927f59b03c13afdf25b

[dexplosion]

cheers for that link brother, seems more sensible

[Klutch]

just buy my s3 and transfer everything over :P