Worksite Unions [Archive] - Antilag Forums

Pete

14-12-2009, 06:46 PM

DanWA

14-12-2009, 08:07 PM

Dude they pretty much run the state when it comes to any workforce related to them... i work in the coal industry in the south west and they pull all the strings. Just join it, good pissups to!

ED40

14-12-2009, 08:10 PM

Yeah i was in the CFMEU when i was in that industry.. definately join up.

dmwill

14-12-2009, 08:18 PM

Just join it, good pissups to!

Clearly...
http://images.newsphotos.com.au/images8/Lores/97079671.jpg

Bomber

14-12-2009, 08:22 PM

Jizz-Lebrity

14-12-2009, 08:31 PM

http://images.newsphotos.com.au/images8/Lores/97079671.jpg

Fucking ROFL!!!

Although they're run by a bunch of thugs, in your position as a worker, I couldn't recommend joining the CFMEU enough!

evoeata

14-12-2009, 08:32 PM

Never had it happen on any sites I've worked on, but some old mates told some CSB's about going on strike because the mess had run out of chocolate ice cream (up north, iron ore mines)

A couple of benifits of union membership are tax deductablity and membership discounts at various places.

haha prob would have been whaleback in newman. have heard that before. they cut sick because the town mess had better food than the one on site, has been better onsite now for years.

not so many union boys in mining anymore, well not in mobile plant anyway. havent seen any for ages. last one i think i heard of was at orebody 25. pretty good conditions in mining so its not too bad. construction is a whole nother story though

Tre-Cool

14-12-2009, 08:51 PM

most unions are ran by old irish, scottish or english pingpingpingpings because they fucked up their own countries and came here.

pingpingpingpings should all be shot.

Do not get pressured into joining one because every other weak pingpingpingping has joined one.

Take responsibility in your job and live and make sure everything you do is SAFE.

SSICK

14-12-2009, 09:07 PM

+1 tre-cool

fuckin useless, moaning, fat mother fuckers. have had the pleasure of telling mr mcdonald to go fuck himself after he told me i was a wanker for not being in the union. did a job on royal st right near their headquaters......fat fucks allways at the shops eating.

Miggy

14-12-2009, 09:27 PM

I'm in the AMWU just in case shit hits the fan so I have back up.

On many sites you will be labeled a crab or a scab if you are not in the union.

YOUR MATE

14-12-2009, 09:33 PM

I was in the AMWU at my last job, pricks did absolutely nothing. Always told us things were going to change and get better. Never did. Every union member got made redundant, they did nothing to help. Supposedly went to court on our behalves and won some cash, never saw a fucking cent.

MMM

14-12-2009, 09:43 PM

Dont ever join unions, there a waste of time and you receive every benefit that a paying member does. Dont buy there bullshit. There also the reason why projects take so long to build in this state. Fuck them all off imo

MMM

14-12-2009, 09:44 PM

On many sites you will be labeled a crab or a scab if you are not in the union.

Huge insult by brain dead drop outs.

Jizz-Lebrity

14-12-2009, 09:46 PM

+1 for all derogatory comments directed towards union leaders.

But at the end of the day, the CFMEU and other unions that carry some kind of weight have secured their members some pretty awesome money/conditions in the past. I was able to buy my Typhoon a few weeks out of TEE because of the CFMEU's presence on the RLJV/LKJV rail tunnel project in the city where I casually worked as a flagman/spotter on weekends for $80 an hour..

WA would be the only place in the world where striking would be acceptable IMO. Any where else it would be way to easy to tell everyone to mcfuck off & hire any of the eleventy million kunts looking for work..

Fukushima

14-12-2009, 10:22 PM

Dont ever join unions, there a waste of time and you receive every benefit that a paying member does.

:lol: you don't get it do you?

Not saying that unions arn't run by a bunch of corrupt fucks but what isn't? the government, the public sector, corporate types, banks etc etc.. all run by criminals.

But I dont understand the pingpingpingpings that are quite happy to pocket 10% payrises negotiated by the union but wont pay a few dollars a week to the union.

DanWA

14-12-2009, 10:30 PM

I also hate the anti-union contracters that over charge for a bunch of lazy pingpingpingpings

ENILE8

14-12-2009, 10:58 PM

Dude they pretty much run the state when it comes to any workforce related to them... i work in the coal industry in the south west and they pull all the strings. Just join it, good pissups to!

+1
they do the right thing and make sure you arent some poor pingpingpingping workin for 70c an hour 6 days a week.....
i would rather be in a union than be without... solves plenty of problems with supervisors etc who arent in unions to call on some other bloke to argue for you..

Brett_J

14-12-2009, 11:51 PM

Only worked on one Union site, it was a Multiplex site, Ive never met a bigger pile of whinging fucks than CFMEU affiliated workers, pingpingpingpings are supposed to be hardcore tradies and they whinged more than checkout chicks, fucking man up you weak bitches, the idea of the union is good, the way they run it though is not, corrupt as all fuck and dont care about the workers unless their pocket is getting lined. If you think otherwise then your dreaming.

Despite him being a fuckhead, I did some work for Len Buckridge, most anti union guy in the world, He is a dickhead that treats his workers like shit though, I found if I was just as bad too him as he was to me, he was a decent bloke to contract for.

esky

15-12-2009, 12:01 AM

Basically If you need a imbred communist scotsman to negotiate for you theres something wrong.

Unions provide nothing that you cant do for yourself

verbatim

15-12-2009, 02:33 AM

free legal rep when ur fired for something stupid?

Zuicider

15-12-2009, 04:27 AM

dont get me started on fucken scotsman wankers on site just as bad as the rest of the white import pingpingpingpings. never been in a union but as mentioned before if they werent around in the begining we would be be a bunch of paki like pingpingpingpings in a sweatshop working for fuck all

Pete

15-12-2009, 05:44 AM

Oook opened a nice one here then !

Might still keep researching, and yeah, they call us grugs, because apparantly they are fighting for our wage on the union side, but we reap the benefits for not joinging up.

Thanks guys.

Frenchy

15-12-2009, 06:25 AM

Every minesite i have worked at that has Unions has been nothing but a fuck up. pingpingpingpings whinge and bitch about every fucking thing and then BAM they are on strike for something pathetic. Construction guys get paid fucking awesome (and their bullshit bonuses that are given are a joke compared to their amount of work) yet the unions still want to "work towards getting what the worker deserves"

I have seen what these fuck heads do to those who are not members and its appauling. People should be allowed to work to support their families and go home, not be subjected to beatings or bullying because they arent ' following their brothers causes'

Upto you man, but yeah good luck with it. Your damned if you do and your damned if you dont :(

Joe

15-12-2009, 06:35 AM

I put Worksite Unions slightly above granny bashers and kiddy fiddlers.

In other words, we don't need them because their interests include big noting themselves and bullying site owners..

Started by ex-convicts, joined by cvnts who act pretty much the same. They think its cool to join a union and abuse people because it feeds their pack mentality.... abuse people at work, belt their mrs at home, go out and bottle some poor cvnt in the evenings.

BOSS 290

15-12-2009, 07:38 AM

Hey,

Is anyone in a Worksite Union, or been in one ?

I started my new job few weeks ago on a construction site near here in Binningup, and theres a lot of union members and talk about. Most are with CFMEU, which I think is the run of the mill for these sites.

Now, can anyone give me some pros and cons please of being in one?, if they are in one ? I know they do a lot of battling for wages, and worksite safety etc, but I really want to get the know without being pressured as fuck to join one.

Thanks

I was a member for 15 years but have resigned due to issues I experienced at a construction site near Freo. One of my employees didn't want to join. Subsequently I was pressured by the union to pay his membership and deduct it from his wages. I promptly informed him it breached Freedom of Association laws. The ABCC have also been involved. I do not subscribe to intimidation and standover tactics. Basically, the CFMEU hierachy can go and fuck themselves now.

$560 per year for membership gives you ambulance cover, travel insurance, funeral cover, free legal rep if your sacked for being a lazy (unt etc. All can be arranged at a much cheaper rate. You also get strike action, no pay, childish actics, harrasment, etc thrown in as part of the deal.

The WA CFMEU is primarily concerned with serving it's own self interest.

JME

15-12-2009, 08:08 AM

Saf

15-12-2009, 09:09 AM

Clearly...
http://images.newsphotos.com.au/images8/Lores/97079671.jpg

LMFAO !!!!!!!!!!. They certainly are a special breed.

Ryan1080

15-12-2009, 09:24 AM

The WA CFMEU is primarily concerned with serving it's own self interest.

Union bosses are millionaires. Your annual union fee certainly goes a long way. Suckers!! Kevin Reynolds lives in a multimillion dollar penthouse at the raffles. Yeah, he's one of the commoners, my ass! Guess how he got rich!

Hate the unions. They certainly do demand some ridiculous shit from the employer. The minesite I work for is the only one without drug tests in WA, if not all of australia. They find used joints in the cabs. Guess who's stopping us from doing drug tests? Unions! How the fuck that is meant to improve worker safety on the minesite when stoned pingpingpingpings drive heavy machinery is beyond my comprehension.

Also, they treat all company assets as if they were their own. Some pingpingpingping needs to do up his backyard in Collie, he'll take a company bobcat or whatever without asking. Other pingpingpingpings take light vehicles off site, vehicles that should never leave site, without any approval, home for the day. Again, unions step in as soon as the employee gets told off for doing so. Shitloads of other wtf scenarios I won't bother mentioning. How does that improve worksite safety? It doesn't. Union is basically a bully organisation. Stay away if you don't have to join up. You'll only be adding to Kevin Reynold's personal bank account.

DanWA

15-12-2009, 10:03 AM

You don't work @ the mine site, you're a bean counter hiding in the Perth office! Saying that, everything you said is true haha and gets much worse. But then we have you bean counters covering it all up :P

Ryan1080

15-12-2009, 10:12 AM

I know it gets much worse. You can only laugh at the stories you hear around the watercooler from the HR chick, head shakes, and facepalms are the usual expressions. Glad I don't deal with the unions, but some of those things do affect my work sometimes :( It does also cost the company more in tax from all the unauthorised equipment usage, but hey, they don't care, coz they think it's all theirs. Dickheads!

DanWA

15-12-2009, 10:43 AM

Hey we all need to do some landscaping at some time ;)

Butcher

15-12-2009, 10:51 AM

A certain CFMEU secretary knows what it feels like to TRY and drive a car with a boot full of cement. lol

gazza750

15-12-2009, 11:49 AM

gotta love unions just throw a hypo on the ground (without being seen ) then find it and the whole site gets a day off work while they scour the sie looking for more needles lol

15-12-2009, 12:00 PM

Im a member, but not active. Financially works out well with the savings through them and the rebate come tax time.

Tre-Cool

15-12-2009, 01:13 PM

I remember when i was 15 and starting work at woolies, after the induction the bird doing it, says. "Now would you like to join the union?" i said why and what's it gonna cost me?

She gave the normal spiel of, it's for your own protection/ job safety in case you get fired etc, you can have the union speak on your behalf, get better rates etc etc.

I just said to her, Listen im only making $7 bucks or whatever it is an hour, why would i want to pay someone a cut of my hourly wage for whats likely to be no help, in the off chance i stuff up and get the sack. I'm happy to face the consequences of my actions.

Thanks but no thanks.

The check out girls signed up of course....

as bit of extra spiel, my old man and uncle were at robe river iron in the mid 80's when they got rid of the unions, and my uncle was working for bhp in newman when bhp did the same thing in early 2000 i think it was.

My uncle having been through all the bs before was happy to sign up away from the unions, he was getting better pay, conditions, benefits etc. but the dopey pingpingpingpings in the union were that stupid they didnt want to sign over.

some weak pingpingpingpings even poisoned his dogs in his own yard.

my uncle even went to some federal court proceddings on bhp's behalf about all the union bullshit that went on.

It's funny now, as most of the old union guys have left and there is none of this strike bullshit going on over no chocolate ice cream etc.

do a solid days work for a solid day's pay i say. (though most minesites these days are pretty fuckign cruisey anyway.)

P.S thank fuck i fly out of newman tonight. it's stinking hot.

Kye

15-12-2009, 01:20 PM

Had the same thing when I worked at McDonalds. They wanted some ridiculous amount out of your pay as well.

McDonalds union, WAJ

shifted

15-12-2009, 02:03 PM

A certain CFMEU secretary knows what it feels like to TRY and drive a car with a boot full of cement. lol

LOL this sounds awesome!

Butcher

15-12-2009, 02:05 PM

poured in with wheelbarrows

Onijin

15-12-2009, 03:57 PM

Kevin Reynolds should be hung, drawn and quartered, along with Joe McDonald.

JME

15-12-2009, 04:39 PM

You'll find they'll still try to eat themselves the fat fucks.

Pete

15-12-2009, 05:45 PM

If you really want to get somewhere you put your head down, arse up and get on with the Job. If you're happy to be complacent with 2/10th's of fucall and blame everyone else instead of taking it on the chin - JOIN THE UNION.

You can tell most of the union guys on site, i rekon i watched 1 guy get 2/3s of a cigarette, stop, pull out his pack, have the next one ready in his hand.

Think i'll just stick out for now, just keep plodding along with how i go. I actually like my job, and i'd rather just stay out of everything and keep working.

Thanks to everyone for thier input !

fourseven

15-12-2009, 06:34 PM

Ahh me bullshit talk.

Not all unions fail.
Not all union secretaries are millionaires.
Not all unions sit on their ass and do nothing for their members.

Here are some facts for you pingpingpingpings:

1. I work full time at the moment for a union.
2. My last full time job (after working for WAPOL) was for another union.
3. We have just purchased 8 houses in Margaret River for the exclusive use of our members.
4. We have 3 in house lawyers for the exclusive representation of our members.
5. We provide legal talks for our members, 360 days a year.
6. We provide computer courses for our members, 360 days a year.
7. We provide all sort of insurances for our members.
8. When our members end up in court because they fucked up they almost always come out better than those who don't have union representation.

We are also the biggest growing union in the state right now.

Don't label all unions with the same rep as the fuckstains at the CFMEU or LHMU. Look at what you get as a union member and make a decision on whether you think you will benefit from union membership. Personally, I would be with a union if they carry a bit of weight because if an employer takes a disliking to you, you be fucked.

DanWA

15-12-2009, 06:48 PM

Yeah AMWU are bunch of lazy wankers to

Passage GT

15-12-2009, 07:04 PM

was with LHMU when i was at swan water getting fucked over, basically promised us the world and delivered fuck all
would say they were gonna do this and that and we'd come to the next meeting a couple weeks later to find fuck all was done
most of the boys at worked jumped over to the AWU but havn't really heard how it's goin since then
basically waste of time and money
they can get fucked
work out at cape lambert now and no unions there, good place to work

15-12-2009, 07:05 PM

Trav... nothing's changed. No eba, 7.5 months overdue.

DanWA

15-12-2009, 07:29 PM

Fukushima

15-12-2009, 09:00 PM

So what if the eba is late? You always get back paid. It is when it is on time that you have to worry.

The union I was with at woolies during uni asked us to vote on a new EBA a couple of years back:

9% pay rise over 3 years (fail when average pay rise at that time was 4% per year) in exchange for:
Minimum shift of 3 hours being cut to minimum shift of 2 hours
New condition where the night fillers could turn up to rostered work and be told to go home without pay if there wasn't enough work.
Double time for Sunday shifts being reduced to 1.5x

I called the union rep out on it and told them it was a shitty deal but enough people got sucked into the "9% pay rise for a few minor things being traded away" line and it got passed, so I resigned from the union.

Another union experience from when I lived in Albany:
I worked at the Narrikup meatworks, the family also owned a meatworks in NSW. Narrikup was a workplace agreement site and the NSW one had a union. The NSW boys got paid $2 more an hour for doing the same job, we had to provide 24 hours notice if we were sick or we didn't get paid sick leave.

So yeah, do your research and make your own decision based on what the union is actually doing and whether the boss will give you a good deal without one.

Zuicider

15-12-2009, 09:56 PM

lol at 24 hours notice if your sick, no wonder i keep getting sick from tainted meat.

15-12-2009, 10:56 PM

Eba being that far overdue is not a good thing either. Not really keen on discussing work issues on a public forum but lets say the delay is not due to sunshine and lollipops.

ENILE8

16-12-2009, 12:09 AM

Its usually because the reps try look after themselves and the longer they drag it on the less they need to work... Ryan_1080 can vouch a few union guys on site just kick back in "union" office and calls themselves the "efficiency committee".

hahaha yeah that efficiency commitee really sorted shit out hey... (sarcasm)
we still get the blame for not doin enough work....