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P100_Ute
29-06-2014, 09:43 PM
come to wheatstone

200k minium wage, no joke

I just applied for wheatstone today as I flew out of karratha for last time on thursday.
Left my car in wickham packed with excess shit n left spare key with a mate if car needs moving.

Be bit of change from Rail to Gas.

Miggy
30-06-2014, 04:42 AM
You won't regret it.

Ash-u-lee
30-06-2014, 05:27 PM
Mobilised to barrow permanently today.

Keen to see if I'm still enthusiastic about it at the 26 day mark.

American Dave
30-06-2014, 05:30 PM
by the sounds of it there wont be many contractors working for Leightons @ FMG Solomon very soon. Lots of mobile plant ops getting the bad news again today.

2LMILK
30-06-2014, 06:09 PM
My missis got made redundant from Leightons Soloman last month. She was HR.

Buckets
30-06-2014, 06:21 PM
The Solomon cuts were in the pipeline for ages. LCPL is on a cost plus contract there with FMG so it was run as fat as possible for as long as possible in order to maximize revenues. It's also an insight in to what is to come over the next few years. The autonomous haulage program will expand not just at Solomon but across the major players over the next few years as the technology continues to prove it's worth and the price point for the system decreases. As a result operators will become a redundant part of the operation.

I've been saying it for a while now. The "boom" as we knew it is over. For now it's adapt to the prevailing conditions or fail.

Tre-Cool
30-06-2014, 06:35 PM
I used to laugh when I was at Solomon and hearing the control room operators talking to machine operators/supervisors out in the field.

so fucking clueless and dis-organised. They would have a 14 day operating plan, 2 days in... already fucked it. dug up wrong area, dumped high grade to waste... I could go on. Cat/westrac control room operators being the salami in the middle and not getting told anything from leightons.

Baggus
30-06-2014, 07:17 PM
Also on the autonomus topic they seem to create a heap of problems, just last week we had 2 drills rigs play bumper carts, 1 dumped a thousand litters of oil on the drill pattern, camera didn't see a thing so no one knew, 1 got walked over a bench and did serious damage.

mr_mike
30-06-2014, 07:40 PM
what make were the drills?

Sack
30-06-2014, 07:44 PM
Heading up to Crissy Creek 2 for Macca's next week for a swing, anyone up there? What's it like?

Baggus
30-06-2014, 07:46 PM
Terex / caterpillar

mr_mike
30-06-2014, 07:49 PM
Terex / caterpillar

I done some paint work on one of the first one of these to leave Terex. I know they were having major issues to get them working right

3BEPKA
30-06-2014, 07:51 PM
Mobilised to barrow permanently today.

Keen to see if I'm still enthusiastic about it at the 26 day mark.

Good luck :D

DESAM8+PANIK
30-06-2014, 08:00 PM
I work for Rio Tinto at the OC at Perth airport monitoring the health of the autonomous machines, they are not as bad as you think, trucks have a higher availability rate due to being operated correctly, that means ultimately more dollars in Rio's pocket, the days of mass amounts of operators are numbered, autonomous machines and locomotives are ensuring survivability of mining in WA, I am glad I am at the right end of the computer screen these days ;)

When the first trucks were run at West Ang autonomously they had teething problems, just like the drills ... give it time and they will iron all the problems out

Embrace autonomous and get on board the controlling or monitoring or hang up your mining boots

Baggus
30-06-2014, 08:14 PM
I heard the trucks didn't work cause the site is to big?? Same precise route travelled every day ended up leaving huge ruts in the road?? They were programmed to shut down if a LV came to close and cause of all the LVs getting round was a stupid amount of start stop?? Your absolutely right tho autonomous is getting a lot better and it's the way of the future so get on board quick

-Luke-
30-06-2014, 08:22 PM
Ten year old anecdotal autonomous rumours are ten year old anecdotal autonomous rumours.

Desam8 is the black subi yours?

crabman
30-06-2014, 08:32 PM
.......Embrace autonomous and get on board the controlling or monitoring or hang up your mining boots

What qualifications do Rio like for this? I got the interview stage on one occasion for that sort of role only to miss out and unable to get the person that interviewed me to ever call me back and give me feedback.

Tried to get into the installation side when with wetsack to be told I need more comms/IT qualifications. Less than two months later I watched someone exact same quali's as me get a spot.

protecon
30-06-2014, 08:39 PM
I work for Rio Tinto at the OC at Perth airport monitoring the health of the autonomous machines, they are not as bad as you think, trucks have a higher availability rate due to being operated correctly, that means ultimately more dollars in Rio's pocket, the days of mass amounts of operators are numbered, autonomous machines and locomotives are ensuring survivability of mining in WA, I am glad I am at the right end of the computer screen these days ;)

When the first trucks were run at West Ang autonomously they had teething problems, just like the drills ... give it time and they will iron all the problems out

Embrace autonomous and get on board the controlling or monitoring or hang up your mining boots

Small world - You might know my cousin Andrew W.
Looked at doing this before I got a job offshore.

turboknapp
30-06-2014, 08:48 PM
What qualifications do Rio like for this? I got the interview stage on one occasion for that sort of role only to miss out and unable to get the person that interviewed me to ever call me back and give me feedback.

Tried to get into the installation side when with wetsack to be told I need more comms/IT qualifications. Less than two months later I watched someone exact same quali's as me get a spot.

I worked in that Tech Department for better part of 2 years, before jumping over to BHP. That whole crap they spin bout needing more IT etc is a load of shit.
I was working as a Project Manager, on more than one occasion I was out in the field doing installs or doing reworks for incompetent individuals.

Send us a PM @crabman and will give you some info if you try again for a role.

Otherwise I'm in Guildford for the next 4 days on a course, 793F Autonomous haha

-Luke-
30-06-2014, 08:59 PM
You can't even program your VCR,what the fuck are you going to do with robotruck.....? :p

Damo 69
30-06-2014, 09:06 PM
[QUOTE=Baggus;1202377]So got told this morning that Tony Abbott and few other high class people and possible prime ministers of other countries will be on site next Wednesday. I'm at west Angeles which I'm pretty sure is rio'a biggest site??

Al\.[/QUOTE

yep with PM of Japan and Sam Walsh

thommo
30-06-2014, 09:35 PM
Total truth there! I've been training in Bhp control room and recently applied for role with rio. Remote operations is the future and if you're maintenance crew



I work for Rio Tinto at the OC at Perth airport monitoring the health of the autonomous machines, they are not as bad as you think, trucks have a higher availability rate due to being operated correctly, that means ultimately more dollars in Rio's pocket, the days of mass amounts of operators are numbered, autonomous machines and locomotives are ensuring survivability of mining in WA, I am glad I am at the right end of the computer screen these days ;)

When the first trucks were run at West Ang autonomously they had teething problems, just like the drills ... give it time and they will iron all the problems out

Embrace autonomous and get on board the controlling or monitoring or hang up your mining boots

DanWA
30-06-2014, 11:13 PM
Tre-Cool = king of control room

Bomber
01-07-2014, 08:23 AM
Thommo, if you're in today, tell Mandy to truck up EX8042 for Phil haha

Tre-Cool
01-07-2014, 09:20 AM
Tre-Cool = king of control room

lol, hardly.

I work with production systems area with a couple of other AL members looking after infrastructure & networks.

crabman
01-07-2014, 11:02 AM
I worked in that Tech Department for better part of 2 years, before jumping over to BHP. That whole crap they spin bout needing more IT etc is a load of shit.
I was working as a Project Manager, on more than one occasion I was out in the field doing installs or doing reworks for incompetent individuals.

Send us a PM @crabman and will give you some info if you try again for a role.

Otherwise I'm in Guildford for the next 4 days on a course, 793F Autonomous haha

No point, I got shown the door and had to sign some stuff whilst doing so, not a redundancy either. I get the feeling I am blacklisted at that company, shitty feeling when all I wanted to do was get into a role I enjoyed and could thrive at, not one that made me want to put my bike in front of a car everyday on the way to work. The feedback I was giving wasn't lining up at all and I kept pushing for specifics of course levels, Cert 2/3/4 etc in Comms/IT Networking etc. I just kept being given the run around.

Ah well, that 9 year chapter is my life is finally over so can't dwell on it too much I suppose. It just sucks that all I know is Cat gear and been detached from in for too long to go back now given current mining climate. Number 1 regret in life.

ambi3nce
01-07-2014, 05:17 PM
Baggus what crew/role you in at west ange?

Team three operator here. I would be careful what you say publicly about the pm visit we got a very stern talking to about it.

HotAe92
01-07-2014, 05:34 PM
So I'm hanging up my mining/FIFO boots for a year or so.

Got an offer in Perth (10mins from home) that was offering similar money to the two mining options I had on the table. Decided it was better to be secure for at least 12months rather than living on the knife edge as I have been doing since October last year.

Nifty let a heap go yesterday finally, after being on the table since the collapse they had happen last year.
Also heard on the grapevine that Atlas let a heap go last week.

DESAM8+PANIK
01-07-2014, 06:55 PM
I heard the trucks didn't work cause the site is to big?? Same precise route travelled every day ended up leaving huge ruts in the road?? They were programmed to shut down if a LV came to close and cause of all the LVs getting round was a stupid amount of start stop?? Your absolutely right tho autonomous is getting a lot better and it's the way of the future so get on board quick

Autobots are successfully running at HD4 and Brockman 2 (Mine of the future) and also West Ang is setup to run them as well. Everything you said is correct, they do shut down if anything comes with in its proximity, so everyone just stays out of the operational areas.


Ten year old anecdotal autonomous rumours are ten year old anecdotal autonomous rumours.

Desam8 is the black subi yours?

Yes that would be mine :)


What qualifications do Rio like for this? I got the interview stage on one occasion for that sort of role only to miss out and unable to get the person that interviewed me to ever call me back and give me feedback.

Tried to get into the installation side when with wetsack to be told I need more comms/IT qualifications. Less than two months later I watched someone exact same quali's as me get a spot.

Depends on where you want to work, I work in Asset Health so my back ground is a HD fitter, the controllers are usually ex operators or controllers from site, other than that I am not sure. Rio are pretty bad for giving feedback after the fact from what I hear, all I can say is keep applying.


Small world - You might know my cousin Andrew W.
Looked at doing this before I got a job offshore.

Yup I know Andrew well, he is on Team 1, my old team I am now changing to team 4, we are cross shift now :( he is a top bloke


Thommo, if you're in today, tell Mandy to truck up EX8042 for Phil haha

EX8042?? Liebherr digger from Area C?? I came up to give it a hydraulic and electrical tune up just after it was commissioned, was about 2 years ago now, I used to be in tech services for Liebherr, I miss those diggers :(

Scousey
04-07-2014, 01:44 PM
Heard through work today that Rio are about to hit up Macmahon's with $75 million worth of LDs on projects.
Looks like they might go the way of Forge.

Anyone else hearing anything like this?

TJ
04-07-2014, 02:03 PM
Where do you work mate?

Scousey
04-07-2014, 02:16 PM
I'm just an Estimator in Perth with one of the commercial builders, but I was talking to one of our subbies and he was stating how his son works for Rio and that his son is the actual one that is going to issue Macmahons with the LDs. I don't know what project though or what truth was in it.

We just got onto the subject due to talking about Georgiou and how they are at the moment under pricing every job at late to win them. They beat me by $3.5 million on the new building at Curtin Uni, on a job worth $41 mil!
And Rio are now signing Georgiou up on everything due to being under budget.

Damo 69
04-07-2014, 02:35 PM
We just got onto the subject due to talking about Georgiou and how they are at the moment under pricing every job at late to win them. They beat me by $3.5 million on the new building at Curtin Uni, on a job worth $41 mil!
And Rio are now signing Georgiou up on everything due to being under budget.


LOL I was pricing a bridge in Geraldton mid last year, we went in real lean at $8.3m and Georgiou were $1.3m cheaper.

Wished them all the best with that price.

Not sure how accurate the story about $75m in LD’s is, usually you give them notification of LD’s commencing and its calculated on each day until they achieve practical completion. Say $10k a day of LD’s 7,500 days late on a project? Rio would have terminated the contract long ago with that type of incompetence.

Could be going after them for extra over flights and accommodation for delivering the project late?
$75m is still a butt fuck load of cash to be hitting them up for in one hit.

Scousey
04-07-2014, 03:07 PM
LOL I was pricing a bridge in Geraldton mid last year, we went in real lean at $8.3m and Georgiou were $1.3m cheaper.

LOL If I was the Estimator I'll be shitting myself right now. Georgiou were also low by $1.5 million on the City Beach Surf Club to PS Structures.
$1 million lower than DBM on Selby St. Office block and pulled out.
$3.5 million lower than me on Building 410 on Curtin.
Then we hear they just won the new Joondalup multistorey Carpark by another $1.5 million!

We went tight on Curtin as well. Good luck to them, they are going to need it! I'll just sit back and watch them burn and fail. Will serve themselves right.

With the $75 million in LDs, I thought there was a huge cost per day on the mines? I'm pricing a job in the city at the moment and the LDs are $11,000 a day.

Damo 69
04-07-2014, 03:22 PM
I don’t get why Georgiou are doing it as they are a private company, you can see the angle of the guys at listed companies doing it as they need to keep revenue up to keep the shareholders happy i.e. forge. It seems to be all from their building division, maybe they have gone down the path of lowballing in and beating their profit out of subbies and the client, or have some fandangle way of building more efficiently than any other company in perth.

Regarding the LD’s RT need to prove they have incurred that cost to be able to pass it on, and has to be capped at a figure per day and an overall % value of the contract, unless contract mining contracts are set up differently (buckets maybe able to chime in on this) but I am fairly certain its contract law.

HotAe92
04-07-2014, 03:25 PM
I don’t get why Georgiou are doing it as they are a private company, you can see the angle of the guys at listed companies doing it as they need to keep revenue up to keep the shareholders happy i.e. forge. It seems to be all from their building division, maybe they have gone down the path of lowballing in and beating their profit out of subbies and the client, or have some fandangle way of building more efficiently than any other company in perth.

My brother works for Georgiou. I know they run a pretty lean machine, but that is real interesting. I'll see what he knows.

TJ
04-07-2014, 03:48 PM
Bid low, costs high, Forge business model

mr_mike
04-07-2014, 04:04 PM
is it possible they are reducing labour costs? Knowing that there is a lot of people who are out of work due to mine construction coming to an end and are getting desperate for a job so are coming to their senses and not hanging out for that $100k+ metro job?

shifted
04-07-2014, 04:06 PM
Heard through work today that Rio are about to hit up Macmahon's with $75 million worth of LDs on projects.
Looks like they might go the way of Forge.

Anyone else hearing anything like this?

An area of MacMahon's was shut a year or two ago wasn't it? Civil based from memory.

Damo 69
04-07-2014, 04:08 PM
Yes if they were self-performing all the work, but due to the diversity in buildings it is usually primarily subcontract management.

Also with a few of the jobs being high profile in the city I dare say the CFMEU will be on their case for crack pipe wages.

Missile
04-07-2014, 04:43 PM
Wonder what project it is with Macmahon / Rio, because there are many contracts that are currently, and have gone south between those two. Rio's bark is generally bigger than their bite. Threat of litigation would be an attempt to fast track a settlement outside of courts.
Macmahon's counter would probably be twice as big.

Damo 69
04-07-2014, 04:54 PM
Wonder what project it is with Macmahon / Rio, because there are many contracts that are currently, and have gone south between those two. Rio's bark is generally bigger than their bite. Threat of litigation would be an attempt to fast track a settlement outside of courts.
Macmahon's counter would probably be twice as big.

That is true, not many companies with a mining focused income stream are prepared to take the big miners to court and they will play to that.

The conversation usually pops up from a project to an ops or general manager of “these pingpingpingpings are fucking us over lets go to arbitration”

Yeah right let’s take 30, 40,-50% of our income stream to court

Next

evoeata
04-07-2014, 05:54 PM
Heard through work today that Rio are about to hit up Macmahon's with $75 million worth of LDs on projects.
Looks like they might go the way of Forge.

Anyone else hearing anything like this?

For the uninitiated, what the fuck is an LD? Maccas boys here at argyle have been told that rio will be "owner operator" by September. Don't know if they are going to finish development or not, but we were told a few months ago that we had a job till early next year. Maccas have sent their engineers too Olympic dam and a few fitters have changed to rio. If they can hold out till October I'll be happy, redundossss

Alt_F4
04-07-2014, 06:26 PM
LDs = Liquidated Damages.
Basically contract enforced fines for not meeting critical dates and/or performance targets etc

Will be joining the RT crowd in Wesley at the end of the month if there's anyone from here in there :)

mys1
04-07-2014, 08:35 PM
For the uninitiated, what the fuck is an LD? Maccas boys here at argyle have been told that rio will be "owner operator" by September. Don't know if they are going to finish development or not, but we were told a few months ago that we had a job till early next year. Maccas have sent their engineers too Olympic dam and a few fitters have changed to rio. If they can hold out till October I'll be happy, redundossss

Lol - that underground operation is a laugh! The contractors at least know what they are doing - rio taking over will be interesting!

Buckets
04-07-2014, 08:45 PM
LD's and various other assfucking clauses all comes down to the way the contract is written and what various parties contracts / exec management team are stupid enough to sign.

I've seen some fucking amazing fuck ups in contracts and as I continue to slut myself around this wonderful industry in various roles I continue to find out about new and exciting ways to fail at client contractor relationship management.

DanWA
04-07-2014, 10:47 PM
At the end of the day its either one of 2 things

1. The work force is shit/overpaid and making the job take longer

2. The project management has no fucking clue of the real world and then trying to swing blame everywhere else

Damo 69
04-07-2014, 11:04 PM
Or the clients a Fucking pingpingpingping who throws bricks at you every step of the way

Bomber
05-07-2014, 12:59 AM
At the end of the day its either one of 2 things

1. The work force is shit/overpaid and making the job take longer

2. The project management has no fucking clue of the real world and then trying to swing blame everywhere else
So nothing new to add then....

DanWA
05-07-2014, 10:51 AM
Or the clients a Fucking pingpingpingping who throws bricks at you every step of the way

PM 101 - Blame client

I was actually betting on #1. I have been lucky to not encounter shit PM in over 12 months now. The steady death of FIFO means the decent ones are getting back in the mix and the shit ones are no longer getting work!

Buckets
05-07-2014, 12:24 PM
Wut...

You seriously have little to no fucking idea about this game or much else do you.

caibs
05-07-2014, 12:40 PM
not really mines related but are there any sparkies that work for greenco here? shoot us a pm if so

S133LTR
05-07-2014, 01:06 PM
Wut...

You seriously have little to no fucking idea about this game or much else do you.

would it be possible to just do what mods have done with the AFL threads to this one?

-Luke-
05-07-2014, 01:11 PM
^ Seconded

TJ
05-07-2014, 03:36 PM
would it be possible to just do what mods have done with the AFL threads to this one?

Done

TJ
07-07-2014, 09:16 AM
If anyone works at Telfer as a mobile plant operator - shoot me a pm - couple of questions, nothing crazy or too in depth.

waxdass
07-07-2014, 02:54 PM
http://www.rba.gov.au/statistics/images/commodity-prices.gif

Down down, prices are down

Damo 69
07-07-2014, 03:00 PM
imagine how ass fucked we will all be if it went back to the historical pre 2004 average pricing.

I cannot express how glad I am that DanWA has been banned from this thread.

millzy_88
07-07-2014, 03:10 PM
If anyone works at Telfer as a mobile plant operator - shoot me a pm - couple of questions, nothing crazy or too in depth.

I wasn't anything to do with mobile plant while I was there but "Tones" was I believe.

waxdass
07-07-2014, 03:17 PM
I'm thinking it might settle eventually to GFC $60+.

kamahl31
07-07-2014, 03:23 PM
An area of MacMahon's was shut a year or two ago wasn't it? Civil based from memory.

John holland took on their civil side

butters
07-07-2014, 05:36 PM
Got a call back from Minara Resources today, looks like i'm heading up to Murrin Murrin next week. Pretty stoked to have gotten a job the way things are at the moment.

Faz
07-07-2014, 07:19 PM
Not really relevant but who here has done offshore work? And how much different is it from mining/heavy industry?

Also how did you get into the market, as it seems more impossible then getting into mining, despite having somewhat relevant qualifications.

ho57ile
08-07-2014, 08:05 AM
Not really relevant but who here has done offshore work? And how much different is it from mining/heavy industry?

Also how did you get into the market, as it seems more impossible then getting into mining, despite having somewhat relevant qualifications.

Pretty much the same deal a bit more full on though especially on the safety side and there is a lot less people on an installation offshore so everyone knows who you are and what you're supposed to be doing. The best way is to know someone. Or whore yourself out to an agency until a rig decides to pick you up.

huggy_b
08-07-2014, 08:16 AM
No downtime on a rig really, you eat where you work where you sleep - there is not a lot to do other than watch TV or go to gym. No grog, no smoking (not sure how relevant they are to you) and no mobile phone calls. Unless you are higher up the totem pole, there are about 6 to 8 phones on the rig to call home with.

On the upside if you get on a cushy Woodside swing you work 6 weeks out of 14 ( 2 on/2 off; 2 on/2 off; 2 on/4 off) on a solid pay packet.

Lump
08-07-2014, 08:33 AM
^sounds like heaven. I just did a week up at chrissy creek & the worst aspect was the stinking cigarette smoke everywhere

adrenalin
08-07-2014, 08:57 AM
Back off to China this week as the Chinese are now constructing the 4 machines for Roy Hill.

Apparently the first one supposed to arrive in China by September ( Not going to happen ) as they haven't even sorted out boats \ confirmed it will meet the criteria etc.

huggy_b
08-07-2014, 09:10 AM
^sounds like heaven. I just did a week up at chrissy creek & the worst aspect was the stinking cigarette smoke everywhere

Like I said, it may or may not be relevant to you personally. There are plenty of people that power chain smoke before jumping on the chopper then walk around the platform with nicotine stickers like a patchwork quilt. And then the drinkers will smash back 5 or 6 beers in the half hour wait til the flight back to Perth when you are heading home.......

waxdass
08-07-2014, 09:20 AM
Most installations have a dedicated smoker room anyway. All vessels/platforms are dry.

You have a better and easier chance of getting in as a TA unless you have a professional skill/trade.

Also, getting to work in Australian waters is harder than first willing to work in Asian waters/Arab waters

huggy_b
08-07-2014, 09:30 AM
Most installations have a dedicated smoker room anyway. All vessels/platforms are dry.

None I know of in Australia with a smoking room anymore and I've been on more than a few of them. In international waters its a different story though, in Norway they give you wine with dinner and I've heard that on the Russian rigs drinking vodka is commonplace. Throughout Asia smoking rooms are common as you mentioned.


You have a better and easier chance of getting in as a TA unless you have a professional skill/trade.

Also, getting to work in Australian waters is harder than first willing to work in Asian waters/Arab waters

It certainly helps, but don't think you'll waltz in - there are plenty of Poms and Scots and their North Sea exp is much preferred so competition is still stiff.

waxdass
08-07-2014, 09:52 AM
None I know of in Australia with a smoking room anymore and I've been on more than a few of them. In international waters its a different story though, in Norway they give you wine with dinner and I've heard that on the Russian rigs drinking vodka is commonplace. Throughout Asia smoking rooms are common as you mentioned.

It certainly helps, but don't think you'll waltz in - there are plenty of Poms and Scots and their North Sea exp is much preferred so competition is still stiff.

It depends on the company. Woodside don't but i'm pretty sure Bayu-Undan (ConnocoPhillips) had a smoker room. In shared waters (Aus/Timor), they all have.
Experience>all. However, the shit locations are always easier than thinking your gonna hop into a cream job in Australia...

huggy_b
08-07-2014, 10:11 AM
Hahahaha, have worked on Bayu Undan - those Filipino's love a smoke! Technically it is in Timor-Leste waters though, hence why they have a rig full of Filipino's working for US$70/day. Last time I was out there they were paying something like $200 - 300m a month in taxes and royalties to the Timor-Leste government which is pretty much +90% of their income.

waxdass
08-07-2014, 10:26 AM
yeah, I just came back from Dili last week - the place has gone from nothing to almost a holiday destination.
Gotta love oil royalties.

Faz
08-07-2014, 07:36 PM
I Applied for an Operating Position over in Gladstone with ConnocoPhillips, Relevant Quals and Old Boy works for them, got a phone call back and that was it.
Guess you need a trifecta of Experience, Qualifications and Knowing someone to even have a shot. Back to tafe I think.

ho57ile
08-07-2014, 08:11 PM
Just got off the Legend yesterday and they had a smoking room and you could smoke out near the forward lifeboats. It does feel a lot like what imagine prison to be though, would be very easy to get cabin fever.

Poktrokt
08-07-2014, 10:22 PM
For those who may not have seen this yet.
Timely reminder to look out for your mates up here. Not everyone can handle it.

Gateway Village, South Hedland

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/regional/north-west/a/24412984/man-found-dead-at-accommodation-camp/

SSICK
08-07-2014, 11:14 PM
Anyone got a contact in HR for monodelphus?

Miggy
09-07-2014, 07:56 AM
For those who may not have seen this yet.
Timely reminder to look out for your mates up here. Not everyone can handle it.

Gateway Village, South Hedland

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/regional/north-west/a/24412984/man-found-dead-at-accommodation-camp/

Sad and sadly common.

Damo 69
09-07-2014, 08:43 AM
Sad state of affairs when someone takes their life at work,

When on pluto it was terrible for it around Christmas time I think 2 guys took their life and one was saved just before it.

TJ
10-07-2014, 08:52 AM
Anyone got a contact in HR for monodelphus?

Tom, yes.

Also if anyone has the contact number for jundee reception, would love you for it.

Damo 69
10-07-2014, 09:17 AM
Annual leave and fifo

If you have pre booked annual leave that falls outside of your roster – who pays for the flight, not covered under the employment agreement.

thommo
10-07-2014, 09:23 AM
Our flights (Bhp)are always paid for, unless you don't show I think you get a warning and then the next one you miss you pay

-Luke-
10-07-2014, 09:37 AM
+1 For employer always paying for flights.

skidkid
10-07-2014, 09:59 AM
Annual leave and fifo

If you have pre booked annual leave that falls outside of your roster – who pays for the flight, not covered under the employment agreement.

If they pay for your flights, they pay for all your flights required to/from site

We had a similar issue at RH when I was with Forge, where monday/friday flights were out of Newman and more expensive than the charter flight. IR guy confirmed that work have to pay for your flights if AL is granted, as the onus is on them to transport you to/from the worksite.

mc68
13-07-2014, 01:42 AM
Counting the hours of my last ever swing right now. Also being home every night!

I wonder if the scene of mining is any different in wa to here in qld.

It's very regional based out here. If I have to listen to another conversation about going shooting or riding horses I'll go postal.

I take it the FIFO sites in wa are more or less staffed from Perth?

beefcake
13-07-2014, 03:52 AM
ahhh yeah or nah , its 50/50 , last year at a shift change there was only three of us that were perth based staff , the rest of the guys were either QLD NT Tassie or from over seas , fuck it was funny as we were the minority .
Currently i was listening to the same hunting riding farming stories last night...

Passage GT
13-07-2014, 09:55 AM
we've got heaps of guys from the eastern states, but it's more about rugby than horse riding or shooting

munt
13-07-2014, 02:39 PM
As a contractor all I heard were stories about how many dicks/roids someone jabbed into their ass, peoples experiences with different types of viagra or how many heavy peices of metal one can lift.

Now all I hear about is peoples holidays or how much their mrs gives them the shits.

Jumanji
14-07-2014, 10:39 AM
...

-Luke-
14-07-2014, 10:41 AM
Gee, You picked a great time to try and get into mining......


Good luck!

Jumanji
14-07-2014, 10:43 AM
Gee, You picked a great time to try and get into mining......


Good luck!

I know, my Stepbrother is with Leightons at the moment and said its not too bad.

SK
14-07-2014, 10:56 AM
just scored a job with FMG at solomon as a fixed plant fitter, so stoked!

TJ
14-07-2014, 11:05 AM
just scored a job with FMG at solomon as a fixed plant fitter, so stoked!

Probably the most volatile site out there atm.

Hope it works out for you

SK
14-07-2014, 11:45 AM
Probably the most volatile site out there atm.

Hope it works out for you

yeah me too, although since Leighton have stopped running the site and FMG are taking over a lot of new jobs popped up :)

Lump
14-07-2014, 01:23 PM
congrats & good to hear, I will be looking out for something there for sure. Doesn't seem to be much happening at Linkforce.
cheers

Sack
14-07-2014, 07:16 PM
Up at CC2 at the moment in maintenence workshop, it's a fucking shit show...

HotAe92
15-07-2014, 09:48 AM
Up at CC2 at the moment in maintenence workshop, it's a fucking shit show...

Should fit right in then, being ex-Westrac haha!

Sack
15-07-2014, 07:52 PM
It's a MacMahons site

Lump
16-07-2014, 11:59 AM
been offered a 10 day shut at FQM Ravensthorpe, apart from being fucking cold what else could i expect from site/camp conditions down there?

Buckets
16-07-2014, 12:20 PM
It's the old BHP Nickel site so the camp and so forth should still be in reasonable order.

waxdass
16-07-2014, 02:33 PM
isn't that place pretty much brand new

Buckets
16-07-2014, 02:51 PM
2009(ish) was when the camp was built then BHP moth balled it and sold it. Has been running for a few years now from memory.

Damo 69
16-07-2014, 03:00 PM
FQM are running it now with about 25% of the workforce BHP had on it

Good mate is a maintenance supervisor for FQM, loving living in Hopetoun

Cant comment about FQM or the site at all as I don’t know, but he earns NW fifo money with a house near the beach, 4wd, motorbikes, boat and a 10/4 roster. That’s living pingpingpingping, only downside is there is sweeeet fuck all to do in ravo / Hopetoun

Tre-Cool
16-07-2014, 04:26 PM
one of my brothers worked for bhp and lived in Hopetoun. he and his mrs loved the place.

Greg Rust
16-07-2014, 08:05 PM
Damo, any chance of maint supers contact details to talk PumpsNSeals?

Damo 69
16-07-2014, 09:37 PM
Damo, any chance of maint supers contact details to talk PumpsNSeals?

Pm me your details and I will pass them on.

Satan
16-07-2014, 09:48 PM
FQM are running it now with about 25% of the workforce BHP had on it

Good mate is a maintenance supervisor for FQM, loving living in Hopetoun

Cant comment about FQM or the site at all as I don’t know, but he earns NW fifo money with a house near the beach, 4wd, motorbikes, boat and a 10/4 roster. That’s living pingpingpingping, only downside is there is sweeeet fuck all to do in ravo / Hopetoun

that's a pretty big downside, that roster isn't so good either

Buckets
16-07-2014, 10:02 PM
Same as a 5/2 Mon - Fri roster most non-fifo's work. Bearing in mind the guy goes home to his family every night I think 10-4 is not at all bad.

Satan
16-07-2014, 10:52 PM
yeah I guess I'm spoilt with my roster - 10 days in a row is a long time to work without a break - especially if you like a beer or two :)

Damo 69
17-07-2014, 07:09 AM
roster is pretty kick ass considering i currently do 3/1

Jmoore
17-07-2014, 08:26 AM
been offered a 10 day shut at FQM Ravensthorpe, apart from being fucking cold what else could i expect from site/camp conditions down there?

FQM is pretty good and will look after you

Passage GT
17-07-2014, 09:19 AM
Just flew back up for my 2 week roster, I really really miss working 4 days on 4 off...especially considering I earned the same money, hopefully the next couple weeks go quick

P100_Ute
17-07-2014, 09:48 AM
Few questions about wheatstone. Are you able to park private car there or not?
And is it motelling where you gotta pack rooms every rnr??
And anyone got any hookups for a job there?? I applied for all jobs on seek I can but they dont really post operator/laborer jobs there.
I got forklift, dogman, loader, c2 crane, hr + f class licence

Damo 69
17-07-2014, 09:54 AM
try going direct to the bechtel website, unsure how they are managing it if they are purely EPC or are trying to do some self performing work as per APLNG, QCLNG etc.

doubtful on parking a car onsite

XR 59 WA
17-07-2014, 11:42 AM
All private vehicles have to stay outside the main gate, ~1km to the closest rooms. When I left the rooms were no telling and not looking at changing to permanent, unfortunately, particularly considering the roster was/is 4:1.

Thiess were looking for people a few weeks back but are steadily ramping down, most of the borrow pits are exhausted now from my knowledge. Ertech Keiwit JV have an ongoing contract which ultilises operators and labourers etc, but I've never once seen them advertise positions.

The other contractor doing the earthworks/concrete package is Laing O'Rourke, but once again, next to no advertised positions. Most of the other contractors are structural and mechanical.

XR 59 WA
17-07-2014, 11:47 AM
try going direct to the bechtel website, unsure how they are managing it if they are purely EPC or are trying to do some self performing work as per APLNG, QCLNG etc.

doubtful on parking a car onsite

When I was there Bechtel were purely there in an EPC type capacity, like Samsung at Roy Hill I guess.

P100_Ute
17-07-2014, 02:19 PM
Cheers for replies. Bechtel site takes me to wheatstonejobs.com and I already applied there. Will look at applying for ertech jv. Cheers

Damo 69
17-07-2014, 02:35 PM
When I was there Bechtel were purely there in an EPC type capacity, like Samsung at Roy Hill I guess.

Bechtel as a EPC suits the Bechtel business model, around the world they do self-perform and they tried/are doing that in Queensland on the three gas plants.

XR 59 WA
17-07-2014, 03:08 PM
I guess it's much like BHP getting rid of all their sub contractors. I guess it's more cost effective. I just know when I was at Wheatstone, everything was subbied out.

I'm with Ertech at the moment P-100, Perth based though, but there's no word of any potential positions through these guys for the JV. Might pay to try get hold of the Keiwit mob if possible as it seems they hold the dominant stake in the JV.

Marty

Satan
17-07-2014, 07:47 PM
roster is pretty kick ass considering i currently do 3/1

then I'm keeping my Sportsmans roster in the city - I used to do 2 night 2 days 6 off - crazy shit!!

Bomber
17-07-2014, 08:41 PM
It's raining in the Eastern Pilbara and it's July!! Very odd for up here

3BEPKA
17-07-2014, 08:42 PM
CBI picked up some work at Wheatstone as well, try applying with them.

ossie cossie
17-07-2014, 08:55 PM
Rain is falling on my donger as well. Wet Wodgina.

Pzest
17-07-2014, 08:56 PM
It's raining in the Eastern Pilbara and it's July!! Very odd for up here
Yeah, I'm listening to the rain on the donga roof. might be easy day tomorrow

Damo 69
17-07-2014, 10:38 PM
raining in Newman

Satan
17-07-2014, 11:12 PM
great timing for the shuts!

Passage GT
18-07-2014, 07:02 AM
Was nice to sit outside and have a beer with the rain, normally rain here is associated with insane humidity

HotAe92
18-07-2014, 05:59 PM
http://www.miningaustralia.com.au/news/griffin-coal-halts-due-to-unpaid-bills

Was due to start there last Tuesday. Pulled the pin a week before when a Perth-based offer came up.

Looks like I dodged a bullet!

Chaotic
18-07-2014, 07:38 PM
anyone been out at roy hill yet?

Buckets
18-07-2014, 07:42 PM
anyone been out at roy hill yet?

In operations or construction ?

Chaotic
18-07-2014, 08:03 PM
operations


In operations or construction ?

Pete
18-07-2014, 08:10 PM
http://www.miningaustralia.com.au/news/griffin-coal-halts-due-to-unpaid-bills

Was due to start there last Tuesday. Pulled the pin a week before when a Perth-based offer came up.

Looks like I dodged a bullet!

We just won a small contract up there, had inductions lined up for this tuesday coming.

Bomber
18-07-2014, 08:21 PM
anyone been out at roy hill yet?


operations
Got an interview next Friday. Keen to separate fact from rumour!

millzy_88
19-07-2014, 12:26 PM
Not mining, but does anyone on here work for Chevron?

I'm going to apply for an Engineering position and want to know how I can give myself the best chance of an interview. I'm already trying to utilise the few contacts I have there but the whole process is pretty automated apparently so dont know how much good that will do. Don't want to have/not have something on my CV that immediately puts me in the bin pile.

thommo
19-07-2014, 01:37 PM
Just be sure to have keywords from the job advert to be in your cover letter or resume from the requirements or prerequisite parts. For instance HR in another big company were saying they spend a few seconds on each due to the hundreds of applications and if those key words aren't there that they're chasing it's in the bin.

Alt_F4
19-07-2014, 02:20 PM
Try to tick every box of requirements, even if you have to clutch at straws, and be prepared to give examples should you get to the interview stage.

-Luke-
19-07-2014, 02:43 PM
I've had good success getting to the interview stage by addressing experience/quals I don't have as future aspirations/development plans.

The automated sorting systems most big companies use pick the phrases as per the ads and in my experience your resume progresses further.

devilfish
19-07-2014, 03:12 PM
Stick a whole heap of key words at the bottom of your CV in white text...... ;)

adrenalin
19-07-2014, 03:26 PM
Out in China at moment for Roy Hill.

Watching the fabrication process for these machines is unreal. They are now full steam ahead. Currently transporting parts from fabrication yard to assembly area. They are assembling the machines then pulling them back down to put on a boat for Roy Hill.

I will try put up some pics later.

mr_mike
19-07-2014, 04:25 PM
i was under the impression that the trucks etc where getting shipped fully built? I remember when i was at Komatsu there was a picture going round of chinese copy 930E dump trucks being loaded on a boat 4 at a time fully assembled.

Lump
19-07-2014, 04:34 PM
he's probably talking about stackers, reclaimers, shiploaders, dumper etc
pics would be cool

millzy_88
19-07-2014, 04:55 PM
Cool, got my cover letter pretty well sorted to address the job ad requirements and spent a couple of hours tailering my CV to the job today as well. Going to get the HR contacts number on Monday hopefully so I can discuss suitability directly with them. Even going to list neg on salary due to experience level as I'm sure they'll be people with more than me going for it.
Just want an interview, so that I can actually get in there and put my case forward.

adrenalin
19-07-2014, 09:04 PM
Yep talking about reclaimers \ stackers \ car dumper \ ship loader.

Any one know of any sites i can upload photos to. Imgur + Dropbox = banned in China.

adrenalin
19-07-2014, 09:08 PM
http://s28.postimg.org/m9j9d2nzv/IMG_7934_Medium.jpg

http://s28.postimg.org/fctoeah2z/IMG_7944_Medium.jpg

http://s28.postimg.org/aaccji7sr/IMG_7945_Medium.jpg

http://s28.postimg.org/wemigdvy3/IMG_7953_Medium.jpg

http://s28.postimg.org/tgpjmooaj/IMG_8000_Medium.jpg

http://s28.postimg.org/w847zjxff/IMG_8137_Medium.jpg




And some random Sump

http://s28.postimg.org/6taagj8qj/IMG_7961_Medium.jpg



Also got a photo of a crank out of what i am guessing is for a massive boat. Would have to be worth over a million dollars just for crank.

Lump
19-07-2014, 09:27 PM
pics not working (for me anyway)
what do you do for RH adrenalin?

adrenalin
19-07-2014, 09:39 PM
I work for a company called EDC who are working under Duro Forge. Basically at the moment just documenting everything now as these things are being shipped to a big area to get dummy built, packed back up and shipped off to WA.

Normally i do 3d \ Surface modelling.

adrenalin
19-07-2014, 09:40 PM
If no one else can see them i might have to wait until i am back in aus.

Wouldnt be surprised if the great firewall of china blocks everything.

http://i57.tinypic.com/2ih14y8.jpg

Did the pic in this post work ?

Greg Rust
19-07-2014, 09:45 PM
Yep.

tinto
19-07-2014, 09:45 PM
Right click / open in new tab/window works.

adrenalin
19-07-2014, 09:48 PM
http://i57.tinypic.com/3449hef.jpg

http://i61.tinypic.com/9joi38.jpg

http://i62.tinypic.com/xaxuki.jpg

http://i57.tinypic.com/29e0z9g.jpg

http://i59.tinypic.com/n49j6o.jpg


Some random sump
http://i59.tinypic.com/j5hxg5.jpg

Chaotic
30-07-2014, 01:24 PM
waiting on an offer from roy hill, heard its gonna be pretty hectic once they're in full swing - 7 crews of 17 in mobile maintenance, almost sounds like they're attempting to start a shit show!

anyone up there with roy hill or contractors in heavy vehicle workshop? heard the coins not gonna be as great as first heard...

Buckets
30-07-2014, 01:46 PM
Coin is average. Roster is great.

Thems the breaks...

TJ
30-07-2014, 02:21 PM
That is the market readjusting.

Rio has just taken a step back, people hear it and get upset.

millzy_88
30-07-2014, 02:34 PM
What kind of roster requires 7 crews?

adrenalin
30-07-2014, 03:23 PM
You do realise the scale of Roy Hill? I am not surprised at that number.

Can offer less money as everyone is trying to get work.

Bomber
30-07-2014, 06:35 PM
Exactly, not that long ago Gina would've been paying big dollars or big lump sums to get people to jump ship. Well maybe not that much because of the roster but yeah, that was the vibe. Now with so many experienced folks about with dicey futures or indeed no job at all, the ball is in their court so they can get the skills they need cheaper. I had my interview with them Friday and to be honest it seems like they were more interested in fishing for what salary/allowances/benifits I was on now than what value I would bring to the business. Not expecting to go to medical stage and to be honest I'm not the slightest bit concerned. Might actually see long service with BHP in 18 months!

Fr3d
30-07-2014, 07:03 PM
Seemingly random email from Stena about a job on the Stena Clyde. Anyone been on there recently?

-Luke-
30-07-2014, 07:05 PM
Seems to be going well?

http://gs-press.com.au/images/news_articles/cache/STENA_CLYDE-600x0.jpg

Buckets
30-07-2014, 07:25 PM
What kind of roster requires 7 crews?
14 on 10 off - 14 on 11 off. Works out to be the same as an 8/6 but they stagger the crews so there are always two crews on both days and nights at the same time.

It takes a bit to get your head around but it works.

At the moment RH are only recruiting for the Selective Mining fleets. Another 7 seperate mining crews will be bought on later once they mobilize the Bulk Mining fleets.

huggy_b
30-07-2014, 07:54 PM
They had a bad run on the Stena Clyde in 2012 - about 2 or 3 days before that electrical fire I was on a nearby rig (Yolla) when news filtered through that they had 2 deaths on the drill rig floor. The interesting thing was they classed that fire as "minor".

She is the oldest rig in Australia I believe, not sure id be keen on working there.

Poktrokt
30-07-2014, 08:04 PM
Mining Mayhem just posted this
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=444455199029335&id=172500846224773

Pretty fucked up :( I really feel for the guys in the LV! Would still be shaking!

Apparently those from the site have posted up saying the OP has incorrect story of events

Fr3d
30-07-2014, 08:06 PM
Seems to be going well?

http://gs-press.com.au/images/news_articles/cache/STENA_CLYDE-600x0.jpg
They've had a few fires, at least my advanced fire fighting is covered. Then again, in a major fire I'd be planning to get out asap.

millzy_88
31-07-2014, 08:17 AM
Mining Mayhem just posted this
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=444455199029335&id=172500846224773

Pretty fucked up :( I really feel for the guys in the LV! Would still be shaking!

Apparently those from the site have posted up saying the OP has incorrect story of events

Don't know about everyone else but for me that link doesn't work.

-Luke-
31-07-2014, 08:35 AM
Mining Mayhem just posted this
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=444455199029335&id=172500846224773

Pretty fucked up :( I really feel for the guys in the LV! Would still be shaking!

Apparently those from the site have posted up saying the OP has incorrect story of events

If I read the report correctly the LV driver done fucked up and didn't call up before entering the single lane section.

Imagine whats the poor trucky has gone through, getting out of the cab seeing the munted ute and wondering if he/she has killed somebody?

When I worked a whaleback we had a similar incident (back when you where allowed to pass loaded trucks) The usual drill was call up the truck, request to pass and the truck would confirm/deny the request then pull to the centre and allow you to pass on the LH (Cabside) A mate did exactly that and due to a miscommunication thought he had permission and went to pass the truck. Unfortunately the truck pulled towards the centre to turn left and then turned and ran over the front of the LV. The Cruiser was crushed flat to the firewall. My mate escaped with a broken ankle and a minor cut to the forehead. He bounced back okay as it was essentially his fault but the truckie was never the same and left not long after.

http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/f/0/f079e_ORIG-cool_story_bro9.jpg

S133LTR
31-07-2014, 05:33 PM
I read he didnt even call into the area and went the wrong way up a one way exit.. car got pushed 40 feet and luckly didnt go under the truck..

Thats what our bulletin/banner said.

skidkid
31-07-2014, 06:09 PM
We didn't get any bulletins or banners, first I heard about it was mining mayhem last night and the ABC article today..

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-31/rio-tinto-investigates-serious-truck-accident-at-mine/5638014

Alt_F4
31-07-2014, 06:20 PM
I read he didnt even call into the area and went the wrong way up a one way exit.. car got pushed 40 feet and luckly didnt go under the truck..

Thats what our bulletin/banner said.
I had my RT induction on Monday and this was the exactly how the incident was explained to us at a safety share.

S133LTR
31-07-2014, 06:34 PM
We didn't get any bulletins or banners, first I heard about it was mining mayhem last night and the ABC article today..

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-31/rio-tinto-investigates-serious-truck-accident-at-mine/5638014

At RT we prefer not to bother contractors with bulletins and such as it takes up their time and stops them from doing the work that we are supposed to be doing. ;)

Greg Rust
31-07-2014, 06:52 PM
Spent the morning in awe of the mega bucks of the Woodside Pluto plant, so clean and new.

Then arvo fixing tails pumps at Mesa J. Mega contrast.

Jase
31-07-2014, 09:48 PM
Fuck I've climbed every bit of that place numerous times, had to do those bloody tanks a few times- there's a number of demotivational messages written in those stairwells haha

Some impressive gear there.
Lack of rust is nice :)

dmanvan
01-08-2014, 12:34 AM
Spoke to neighbour this evening who just got back from a stint. Works for Rio , apparently huge budget cuts this week in all departments... seems to be worldwide fallout from this...

http://www.watoday.com.au/business/mining-and-resources/rio-tinto-sells-mozambique-coal-assets-for-us50-million-20140730-zyiuu.html?eid=email:nnn-13omn652-ret_newsl-membereng:nnn-04/11/2013-news_am-dom-news-nnn-watoday-u&campaign_code=13INO006&promote_channel=edmail&mbnr=MTk0ODQ4MA

what a monumental cockup, that is some coin loss, to put those large numbers into perspective I can only imagine buying a second hand dream car (R35 GTR) for $125,000 . racing it a few times and damaging it and then having to sell it for $1600 2 years later because you cant afford to fix it to drive properly and have already thrown more money at it in the meantime.... Turns out this lemon wasnt really worth 125K to begin with and the seller took the money and ran, meanwhile your sod investment just went for a steal to someone who thinks they can return car to its former glory......

Alt_F4
01-08-2014, 07:15 AM
Spoke to neighbour this evening who just got back from a stint. Works for Rio , apparently huge budget cuts this week in all departments... seems to be worldwide fallout from this...

It's old news rehashed, this is just RT selling acquisitions from the multibillion dollar writedowns they declared early last year.
So any cuts on the books are as a result of other factors.

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/rio-tinto-boss-quits-a13b-101903282.html

Greg Rust
01-08-2014, 07:18 AM
Jase, wouldn't mind climbing the flare stack. Epic view.

The Rio boys at Pana said they had to drop one operating haul pack for cost savings but that's been all.

crabman
02-08-2014, 03:24 PM
So I noticed one of these fly into perth this morning over my house.

http://airlinergallery.nl/an124plt.jpg

When I went on flight aware to see what it was I saw it just did a return trip to Karratha. Anyone know what it was flying in? I am intrigued at the dollars spent on freight :P

mr_mike
02-08-2014, 03:27 PM
i seen it fly over yesterday about 12:15, i work just near the airport and it was pretty low when it came over. was impressive!!

DESAM8+PANIK
02-08-2014, 05:14 PM
My dad works for a mining contractor company and they were hiring an Antanov to transport pipe laying and trenching machines to Qatar for a job, can carry heavy shit and the trenching machines my dad drives they would need a plane like that to take them there

evoeata
02-08-2014, 06:02 PM
So I noticed one of these fly into perth this morning over my house.

http://airlinergallery.nl/an124plt.jpg

When I went on flight aware to see what it was I saw it just did a return trip to Karratha. Anyone know what it was flying in? I am intrigued at the dollars spent on freight :P

2 boxes of 12mmx40mm bolts for BHP......

-Luke-
02-08-2014, 06:36 PM
Biscuits for a smoko order?

mr_mike
02-08-2014, 06:46 PM
Hilux ute to Brockman 4

Bomber
02-08-2014, 06:51 PM
Potentially Fibrous Area signs to Area C

Greg Rust
02-08-2014, 09:24 PM
Gina's private jet?

Denver
03-08-2014, 02:16 AM
Gina's private food supply plane

Fixed.

1SPRINT
03-08-2014, 04:02 AM
It was the ATO picking up the 57K I paid in tax this year and everyone else's that's in the same boat.

urabus
03-08-2014, 08:32 AM
I am intrigued at the dollars spent on freight :P

In terms of money when woodside was flying in some insulated pipes it was about $1.2m to go from europe to perth per trip. Took a few days too because the range on them isnt huge when fully loaded. They have a crew of about 14 and all you have to provide them is fuel. They do everything else. Load / unload / repairs etc.

Brendon

Damo 69
03-08-2014, 11:05 AM
just saw on facebook another guy has taken his life on barrow, sadly too often RIP

3BEPKA
03-08-2014, 05:25 PM
just saw on facebook another guy has taken his life on barrow, sadly too often RIP

True,it was a sad day yesterday.Most of us went back to camp as soon as we found out, other scum stayed to get their double time, money hungry pingpingpingpings.

RIP

Tre-Cool
03-08-2014, 09:07 PM
lol wut.. someone dies / commits suicide and the people who are happy to stay working are money hungry pingpingpingpings.

People die every day, that's life.

Maybe they wanted to keep busy doing something and keep their mind off it, or perhaps they just didn't know the guy?

Buckets
03-08-2014, 09:27 PM
True,it was a sad day yesterday.Most of us went back to camp as soon as we found out, other scum stayed to get their double time, money hungry pingpingpingpings.

RIP
Are you fucking serious or just stupid ?

Passage GT
03-08-2014, 09:50 PM
It's obviously a very sad thing to happen, and i genuinely feel for those he left behind, but if i didn't know him personally or even if we weren't close, i couldn't see myself taking time off work for it, my wages wouldn't change regardless no matter if i did or not but i'd still go into work.
And just on that, who would really want to spend all day in their room anyway?
Even the 2-3 hours i have after work when i'm away i prefer to go into town and visit friends or do anything than sit in my room watching tv or drinking at the wet mess..
It's a place to sleep only as far as i'm concerned, the less time i'm in there the better.

3BEPKA
03-08-2014, 10:42 PM
We were told about it around 10:30. People across site we're stopping work for a day. If everyone in your crew is stopping work, I don't think you should be the pingpingpingping and ask to stay back for extra half a day pay. That's just my opinion.

SSICK
03-08-2014, 11:02 PM
lol @ giving someone shit for wanting to work...... at work.

Buckets
03-08-2014, 11:15 PM
The reason most of them would be stopping work is not because they knew the bloke or actually gave a fuck, they'd be stopping work because most of them are dog fuckers looking for an excuse to park up for the rest of shift.

You're onsite to work not sit in your donga and mope about your life. As harsh as it is there are far too many people not mentally cut out for this industry who've found their way in to the game one way or another. It takes a certain kind of person to deal with the shit that going FIFO brings to your life, if people can't hack it THEY should put their hand up and say something or grow a pair, quit and go back to Perth. Every company has support services on hand for both employees and their families people need to man up and swallow their pride and use these services (or quit the game) before it gets to a situation where some poor fucking cleaners or whoever find some pingpingpingping dead in their room. The people who have been left behind to deal with this completely avoidable mess are the ones I feel for.

Miggy
03-08-2014, 11:30 PM
True,it was a sad day yesterday.Most of us went back to camp as soon as we found out, other scum stayed to get their double time, money hungry pingpingpingpings.

RIP

I was one of those money hungry pingpingpingpings but I bet most of the guys that walked won't even donate to his family as usual, working IMO is not a sign of disrespect. Why not work then donate your full day or even half days wage to his family I'm sure his kids back in Bunbury would find that a shit load more useful.

Tones
04-08-2014, 05:47 AM
I wanted to work when the deaths at tropicana happened a couple months ago. I felt disrespectful taking the day off when I didn't even know the guys. Was told and forced to go home.
Then when they flew people off site for the funeral 2 new guys, who didn't know the guy, flew back to Perth. Long timers on site were pissed as they k re the guys were just flying back to fuck the dog. That's more of a pingpingpingping act than working.

mr_mike
04-08-2014, 06:45 AM
Similar thing at my work last week, one of the long term supervisors wife lost her battle with cancer, most of the guys here were aware what had happened. Funeral details were announces to everyone and a bunch of guys most who hardly knew the woman or even the supervisor well took the arvo off for the funeral.
Pretty piss poor in my opinion

Lump
04-08-2014, 09:11 AM
1 week to go before I start on 5/2, 4/3 at Newman

TJ
04-08-2014, 09:50 AM
To be fair - there is no standard way to deal with death.

And there is a pretty large % of people up there for $$, and they hate it, so if they can score time off they will take it.

Bomber
04-08-2014, 10:15 AM
The reason most of them would be stopping work is not because they knew the bloke or actually gave a fuck, they'd be stopping work because most of them are dog fuckers looking for an excuse to park up for the rest of shift.

You're onsite to work not sit in your donga and mope about your life. As harsh as it is there are far too many people not mentally cut out for this industry who've found their way in to the game one way or another. It takes a certain kind of person to deal with the shit that going FIFO brings to your life, if people can't hack it THEY should put their hand up and say something or grow a pair, quit and go back to Perth. Every company has support services on hand for both employees and their families people need to man up and swallow their pride and use these services (or quit the game) before it gets to a situation where some poor fucking cleaners or whoever find some pingpingpingping dead in their room. The people who have been left behind to deal with this completely avoidable mess are the ones I feel for.
This.

3BEPKA
04-08-2014, 06:13 PM
I was one of those money hungry pingpingpingpings but I bet most of the guys that walked won't even donate to his family as usual, working IMO is not a sign of disrespect. Why not work then donate your full day or even half days wage to his family I'm sure his kids back in Bunbury would find that a shit load more useful.

If you decided to stay back and donate half or full days pay to his family,then that is a great thing to do and I respect that. I was referring to people who make $200k + and not gonna donate single dollar. Same people who never reach for their pockets when we're donating for number of different causes.

crabman
04-08-2014, 07:04 PM
They donate more than enough via income tax.

Pete
04-08-2014, 07:30 PM
Anyone know the blokes name ? pm if wish ? got a few mates down here from Barrow, and haven't heard from 1 of them for a few days and his phones off.

Tre-Cool
04-08-2014, 07:36 PM
So im doing a trip for work at the moment and im at nammuldi tonight/tomorrow then yandi wed-Thursday... I only came up with work clothes/socks & jocks in a back pack along with my laptop etc.

Apparently your not supposed to wear work clothes to dinner.. lol when did this shit happen?

First camp I've been to where this has been in place unless your filthy dirty.

SK
04-08-2014, 08:29 PM
So im doing a trip for work at the moment and im at nammuldi tonight/tomorrow then yandi wed-Thursday... I only came up with work clothes/socks & jocks in a back pack along with my laptop etc.

Apparently your not supposed to wear work clothes to dinner.. lol when did this shit happen?

First camp I've been to where this has been in place unless your filthy dirty.

yeah its true and they are really anal about it at yandi

before shift its okay but not after 6am or 6pm or they will ask you to leave

Denver
04-08-2014, 09:00 PM
Death on site is hard. Either from the perspective of someone on site or a friend at home.

I had one of my closest mates and mentors in life pass away while I was starting a three week swing, got the call he was on life support one night. Bailed the super up and ask to get on the next flight home. Had to be approved by the office in the morning. By the time it was all cleared the next morning I checked where he was at before bailing and he'd already passed.

I went back to my room, lost my shit for a while and decided staying till the funeral would be better try keep my sanity, a bunch of the crew rolled passed at the end of the day to check on me and got me out for a beer. Them giving a shit,helped me deal, staying at work help mix the thoughts in my head. Going home would have just seen me on the couch over thinking and wrecking myself.

I went back to work the next day and they flew me home and back mid swing to attend the funeral. They where very understanding about it. Rare in some companies. Fmg will only fly us home if it's immediate family.

There's been a few deaths at cloud break while I've been, one an accident onsite which happened just before we flew out and on Christmas Eve, we knew it wasn't good from the time it took to stop the tones on the radio and when told the entire site to shut down. It put everyone in a somber mood. The bus back to camp was the quietest I've ever heard it. Even after the first couple of night shifts didn't come close. No one knew the guy but the time of year and what happened just turned everyone.

The others where just natural causes, and that's life. These things happen. People deal in their own way.

EVLO
06-08-2014, 11:11 AM
True,it was a sad day yesterday.Most of us went back to camp as soon as we found out, other scum stayed to get their double time, money hungry pingpingpingpings.

RIP

You're in the union ain't ya..... :P

adrenalin
06-08-2014, 11:13 AM
Fixed Stacker for Roy Hill just about finished. Amazing to see how quick they were in putting this thing together.

Should go through the tests this weekend then be ready to be put on a boat and shipped off to Australia

VN Clubby
06-08-2014, 12:27 PM
Dzenci - he wouldn't happen to need a Winder Driver with airleg experience would he ? Got my Class 1 WA ticket and just waiting for the next contract kick off in mid September.

Bomber
06-08-2014, 01:02 PM
Had medical for RH yesterday, subsequent blood test for high blood glucose level. Yay, might have/be getting diabetes. Everything else is good for a 101kg, 180cm operator who sits on his butt 10.5-11hrs a day to do his job. Oh well, time to make some dietary changes and exercise more.

adrenalin
06-08-2014, 01:12 PM
What machinery do you operate ?

Drop all sugar drinks for like 2 weeks and some exercise and you will find you probably come good.

Lump
06-08-2014, 01:46 PM
^^did you fast before the test? if you didnt that will throw the results off

TJ
06-08-2014, 02:01 PM
Amazing the amount of operators with the following on medicals

-type 2 diabetes
-high blood pressure
-depression meds

Bomber
06-08-2014, 02:03 PM
Yea I didn't eat breakfast and had about 1/4 of a home made sausage roll for lunch. Glucose in urine @ 8.1. Then I fasted since dinner last night about 9pm with only about 400mls of water for this morning's test about 9am so will be up again no doubt. They will probably make me do the syrup test next as that'll make 2 high tests. Unless for some reason it came down for the 2nd test....

And I operate all mobile machines but 99% of the time I'm on a Liebherr R996B

Buckets
06-08-2014, 03:15 PM
The Roy Hill medical nearly tripped me up as well with my heart condition... Worst one I've done to date and they have it written in to your contracts that they can send you off for yearly medicals as well.

The gym appears to be pretty good with heaps of space and shit tonnes of machines if you wish to make some healthy lifestyle choices once you're onsite.

Bomber
06-08-2014, 05:53 PM
Amazing the amount of operators with the following on medicals

-type 2 diabetes
-high blood pressure
-depression meds
No doubt. When I was in your office there were some real doozies.

The Roy Hill medical nearly tripped me up as well with my heart condition... Worst one I've done to date and they have it written in to your contracts that they can send you off for yearly medicals as well.

The gym appears to be pretty good with heaps of space and shit tonnes of machines if you wish to make some healthy lifestyle choices once you're onsite.
Well the Dr. did say RH was fairly picky, I don't think type 2 diabetes would be anything that would trip me up. She seemed to of the impression they just want to be thorough so they don't have any surprises. Would be shit if they knocked me back cause of that!

SK
06-08-2014, 06:37 PM
anyone at solomon? just got here and staying at kanji camp :)

Damo 69
08-08-2014, 09:05 AM
Rio Tinto half year results presentation is out

Capex is basically half of 2012
Pilbara expansion capex is like $700m for next year in 2012 it was about $4bn

Genuinely surprised at a cost per T of $20.22

Was up around $50 not long ago

TJ
08-08-2014, 09:29 AM
No doubt. When I was in your office there were some real doozies.

Well the Dr. did say RH was fairly picky, I don't think type 2 diabetes would be anything that would trip me up. She seemed to of the impression they just want to be thorough so they don't have any surprises. Would be shit if they knocked me back cause of that!

It shouldn't but you may need to get a doctors note showing you manage it.

Greg Rust
08-08-2014, 10:11 AM
That Rio news is good for us, we are basically riding the brownfield train and helping them run their equipment for less.

Passage GT
08-08-2014, 06:56 PM
Currently sitting on the loaded at cd1 waiting to feed the hungry dumper, last night was a comical run of errors all night, some efficiency and decent management at the yard level would do wonders for this place

Ash-u-lee
11-08-2014, 08:42 PM
For those at Barrow, we raised a couple of thousand dollars for Patrick's children from a quiz night on Saturday night.
We auctioned off a rugby ball signed by John Eales and that was sold for $800 itself. The ball was actually won by an individual and he donated it to be auctioned off to raise money.

The community really pulled together to support one another which was great to see. We have had 4 people sent off the island (to take personal leave) after their workmates noticing that they were visibly distressed about the situation and checked up on them to make sure they were ok. Support for one another is such an important thing within FIFO roles.

No-one comes to work not to go home. Rest in Peace.

Poktrokt
13-08-2014, 09:48 PM
So im doing a trip for work at the moment and im at nammuldi tonight/tomorrow then yandi wed-Thursday... I only came up with work clothes/socks & jocks in a back pack along with my laptop etc.

Apparently your not supposed to wear work clothes to dinner.. lol when did this shit happen?

First camp I've been to where this has been in place unless your filthy dirty. Yandi Spinifex is very strict, security will ask you to leave mid way through a meal. No work clothes and wearing of singlets is biggest but they barely pull up gym clothes.


Had medical for RH yesterday, subsequent blood test for high blood glucose level. Yay, might have/be getting diabetes. Everything else is good for a 101kg, 180cm operator who sits on his butt 10.5-11hrs a day to do his job. Oh well, time to make some dietary changes and exercise more.
Heard back yet? Why are you leaving us?
We have another 996B arriving (from Yandi)

Tones
14-08-2014, 01:17 AM
I'll take his spot if that's a liebherr 996 over this cat digger bs hahaha

Buckets
14-08-2014, 01:35 AM
Hitachi 5600 at this stage.

The fleet will comprise 14 diggers in total and be made up of 3600's, 5600's & 8000's (in backhoe config) (and a 1200 for fiddly shit)

Bomber
14-08-2014, 07:43 AM
Yandi Heard back yet? Why are you leaving us?
We have another 996B arriving (from Yandi)
Nothing yet, but I need a letter from my doc before they will accept the medical as mentioned.... Not expecting anything to happen in a hurry the way it's gone so far. Jon would have a better idea than me, I'm just a mushroom haha. Why am I looking? I've hit the ceiling at MAC. No room to expand a career I've been working on for nearly 11 years. As for EX8039, Jason the guru pommy Liebherr fitter reckons it's a POS that needs a lot of money thrown at it to make it reliable. Yandi wouldn't send their good gear ;) Besides, money might be shit @ RH. $ aren't everything but I do have a minimum I need and the way they are cagey with figures (won't even offer a rough idea for me) makes me wonder. At the moment I'm 12 months from doubling my shares and 18 months from pro rata long service too....


I'll take his spot if that's a liebherr 996 over this cat digger bs hahaha
You and about 14000 other fellas!! Haha

Hitachi 5600 at this stage.

The fleet will comprise 14 diggers in total and be made up of 3600's, 5600's & 8000's (in backhoe config) (and a 1200 for fiddly shit)
Any truth to next digger not arriving until next year? Whitney in HR said it's slim pickings for a fair while

Lump
16-08-2014, 11:49 PM
question for you on the tools construction workers.
I have a design job on some structure where we need to make a splice joint in a 200UC (steel beam)
This requires 8 22mm holes to be drilled from a mobile work platform (5m in the air) into 10mm mild steel plate.
Now, when I was on the tools 20 years ago, drilling holes that large would not have been an issue - just drill a decent pilot hole & step up to the 22mm diameter bit.
What are your thoughts on doing this in a shutdown?
The engineer is not so sure about doing it this way (allways looking for the quickest/easiest method) but from my point of view its the easiest solution for me.
cheers

Miggy
17-08-2014, 04:35 AM
I don't see it being an issue at all, tie the magnetic drill to the beam incase it slips off and some sites might want a barricade around the ewp and basket bellow. Safe and efficient.

crabman
17-08-2014, 09:44 AM
^^^

Why can't they teach engineers common sense lol

Lump
17-08-2014, 10:08 AM
no where to mount a mag base drill, i was thinking a hand drill should be ok?
thanks for the suggestion though

Brett_J
17-08-2014, 10:15 AM
Slow drill, pilot holes and stepped up like you said, should be no worries keeping it slow, and sharp bits.

Damo 69
17-08-2014, 10:48 AM
can the U Beam be drilled on the ground? and simply lifted and bolted into place when in the air to minimise the work to be conducted at heights?

thommo
17-08-2014, 11:23 AM
viper drill bits are the go, they power through stuff like that once you've made a good pilot hole and using lube

Lump
17-08-2014, 11:33 AM
will look into that thommo, no Damo the beam is part of a ore car dumper dust hood so its staying up there.
cheers

Damo 69
17-08-2014, 11:46 AM
will look into that thommo, no Damo the beam is part of a ore car dumper dust hood so its staying up there.
cheers

lol as i clicked post i was like i bet its part of an existing structure

Passage GT
18-08-2014, 06:46 AM
will look into that thommo, no Damo the beam is part of a ore car dumper dust hood so its staying up there.
cheers

You working on the cd2 shut?
Just pulled the last train out

Lump
18-08-2014, 11:32 AM
No, this is for a October shut at whaleback

Deke
18-08-2014, 11:51 AM
weld or tack a bit of plate too the existing beam so you have a surface for your magdrill, asuming the holes are on the flange not the web , worst comes too worst blow the holes with an oxy

Lump
18-08-2014, 12:35 PM
The holes are not to be drilled on the web or flange, But on an existing stiffener that's welded to the web/flange. Flame cutting them is an option if I draw up some backing plates with shop drilled 22mm holes. I think I have it sorted now. Cheers

Damo 69
18-08-2014, 12:39 PM
No, this is for a October shut at whaleback


But on an existing stiffener that's welded to the web/flange.

Double
Triple check
Written confirmation the existing structure is as per the drawings for whaleback, fuck that place sucks for as cons

Lump
18-08-2014, 01:22 PM
Existing structure is only about 5 years old so should be ok

Damo 69
06-09-2014, 07:20 AM
http://shop.fuglies.com.au/polarised_safety_sunglasses.html

http://www.patriotsurplus.com/military-gear-footwear-military.html

Ballistic & AS rated safety glassess

Millitary boots "be warned only some meet Australian Standards"

half my project site looks ready to invade Iraq at the moment

evoeata
08-09-2014, 08:01 AM
what roster app is everyone using? have just upgraded to android and need a good app to work out mine and my gf's rosters and when we are home at the same time.

Damo 69
08-09-2014, 08:34 AM
spreadsheet? just chuck the date along the top and smash in both roster and drag the dates out, then drag out the roster.

lil regy
08-09-2014, 09:24 AM
Fifo app works ok but only for one roster.

adrenalin
08-09-2014, 09:44 AM
the calendar

HotAe92
08-09-2014, 09:59 AM
pretty quiet in here of late. A reflection of what is happening 'out there'? Seen maybe 2 or 3 WA mining enviro jobs pop up since taking my new job, which was back in July.

American Dave
08-09-2014, 10:26 AM
Exploration is dead. Costs are now the only thing that matters for companies. I am advised that Macmahons have let go their labour hire operators at FMG Christmas Creek 2 today. Iron ore price is under $84 tonne now as well ouch...

Lump
08-09-2014, 12:17 PM
my 6 week fifo contract at whaleback engineering office has now been extended to 6 months.
Love this place :-)

Damo 69
08-09-2014, 12:29 PM
my 6 week fifo contract at whaleback engineering office has now been extended to 6 months.
Love this place :-)

you based in Newman? enjoying the mess i have made in the town centre?

Lump
08-09-2014, 12:37 PM
Yep, I'm staying out near the gun club.
Yes the town centre is a real mess, I walk thru there on my way home at night from the gate house.

Damo 69
08-09-2014, 12:41 PM
Yep, I'm staying out near the gun club.
Yes the town centre is a real mess, I walk thru there on my way home at night from the gate house.

only about a month of physical works left, then around a month of electrical commissioning and we will be done so not long now.

should look a bit better than it did when we arrived!