Evo 9 gettin crushed tommorrow :(

[mr_mike]

just heard the police commisioner and the whole media circus will be at Lawrences Scrap Metals tommorrow mornin to watch an Evo 9 being crushed under hoon laws.
No doubt will be lead story on all commercial news tommorrow evening.

[ben351]

why dont they Auction the car off and give the money to chairty ?

[Fukushima]

i wonder if the driveline will be in it?

[confuzion]

why dont they Auction the car off and give the money to chairty ?

Good idea actually.. idiots!

[satch]

first "import" to be crushed ?

Because auctioning off would be sensible and we dont do sensible in WA. It would be followed by some bullshit excuse like the police giving someone else the opportunity to hoon in it again. blah blah blah

[shifted]

Should be auctioned off and proceeds go to charity. Stupid pingpingpingpings.

[Evolved]

If its getting crushed , previous owner didnt deserve to have it in the first place then .

[mazgem]

Hope they feel satisfied that the right thing has been done for the greater good and safety of the comminity. Job well done. What a joke.

[Azrian]

What are you all woried about, its only an EVO.

[possibly.mitch]

wasnt there a rule or obligation that any car over 5 grand or somthing was to be auctuioned? anything valued under was crushed??

[Justooon]

If its getting crushed , previous owner didn't deserve to have it in the first place then .

Deserve it ? Material goods (like cars) are purchased not deserved...if the bloke could fork out the dough to run such a machine I feel that he can no worries.

A license on the other hand is a privileged earned not a right obtained. I don't think that material possessions should be taken away from you and destroyed because you fucked up just take away the privilege to put foot to pedal for life.

Since the introduction of the "no hat no play" style license law has passed I personally haven't sat behind the wheel as I am scared shitless of getting my car impounded (/CSB) but I can see that people would take chances, be fuckheads and take to the roads without one.

Rant is a bit off topic but I am just frustrated knowing that cops can take what really is your hard earned money...and burn it.

[Geisha]

wasnt there a rule or obligation that any car over 5 grand or somthing was to be auctuioned? anything valued under was crushed??

This government has proven that they don't do what they say they will do

[Brockas]

If the owner did something wrong, why punish the car?

[V70R]

Gents, we need to remove ourselves from the emotional attachment we have with our cars and other nice performance cars with this issue.
The owners of these cars being crushed all know the risks associated with wreckless driving, speeding or whatever resulting in enough penalties to have their car crushed. There are plenty of warnings out there. Sure many will disagree with my comments and say that the car is not at fault, but it certainly teaches the owner a very big lesson.

[mitchsterbrau]

same lesson if they sold it.
the crushing is media hyperbole.

[Jase]

What a toss

If anything auction for charity should be the go, kinda like assets seized under drug laws

[Rich]

If the owner did something wrong, why punish the car?

stop cruelty towards cars. time to start the RSPCC movement...

[sprint347]

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

[Evolved]

wasnt there a rule or obligation that any car over 5 grand or somthing was to be auctuioned? anything valued under was crushed??

That was the rumor floating around. Say one thing do another .....

[Bridantay]

What a toss

If anything auction for charity should be the go, kinda like assets seized under drug laws

I agree, resell the drugs in auctions

[Breno]

Think if i offer to "donate" $15k to a certain member of the police, they'd see fit to "reward" me with said Evo IX? old school QLD cop spec.

of course, $15k worth of hookers and drugs would be more historically accurate.

pretty devo seeing a car like this getting crushed. no doubt the owner fucked up pretty severe, and deserves to be punished...

[Endless]

Fucking stupid. Sure it will teach the owner a lesson, but so would selling it to someone else. Waste of money!

[Evolved]

So it gives the next person the opportunity do do the same thing , might not be right away but soon enough ...

[GA70TT]

i am bored and decided to look at the road traffic act....after sifting through alot of crap....it appears that the commissioner can sell or dispose of a car if they choose.


(2) The Commissioner may sell or otherwise dispose of a
confiscated vehicle, an uncollected vehicle or an item.

(3) The Commissioner is not to sell or otherwise dispose of a
confiscated vehicle, an uncollected vehicle or an item unless —
(a) any appeal against the conviction for an offence in
respect of which the vehicle was impounded or
confiscated is determined; and
(b) any appeal against an impounding or confiscation order
in respect of the vehicle is determined.

(4) The Commissioner is not to sell or otherwise dispose of an
uncollected vehicle or an item unless —

(a) each responsible person is given at least 14 days’ written
notice of the Commissioner’s intention to sell or dispose
of the vehicle or item; and
(b) a notice of the intention to sell or dispose of the vehicle
or item is published, at least 14 days before the proposed
sale or disposal, in a newspaper having State-wide
circulation; and
(c) in the case of an item, reasonable steps have been taken
to return the item to its owner; and
(d) any proceedings under subsection (5) or (6) in relation to
the vehicle or item and any appeal in respect of those
proceedings are determined.

[shifted]

So it may not get crushed basically?

[sprint347]

If they sell the vehicle there's a good chance the car will end up back in the hands of the offender. I think the image of watching your pride and joy being crushed is the message they're trying to send out to people, rather than have their mate go to the auction and buy the car back.

I am by no means supportive of these laws, in fact I think it encourages people to run from the cops and endanger more lives. But at some point we have to consider the reasons why these laws exist.

Too many young people are wiping themselves (and others) out by driving beyond their abilities, the location and the conditions. Cars are only getting faster and faster and parents are being less responsible and letting kids get 600hp cars.

I don't know what the solution is, in fact I don't really think there is one. But the tools out there are making it hard for enthusiasts as much as the police are, who are reacting to public pressure.

I'm no angel, in fact I'm pretty lucky to get away with some of the shit I've done. But 7 years ago a 200kw V8 was quick, you get that in a taxi these days... literally.

[GA70TT]

So it may not get crushed basically?

not really, its up to the commissioner to decide.

they can sell the vehicle, but they can dispose of the vehicle too

it takes a bit to get to this stage...the owner would have had multiple times of impounding and been caught reckless driving

if they do sell the car, they first take out court fees, impounding fees etc, and then the balance gets divided up to the Road Trauma trust account (state gov basically)

[R3N]

If they sell the vehicle there's a good chance the car will end up back in the hands of the offender. I think the image of watching your pride and joy being crushed is the message they're trying to send out to people, rather than have their mate go to the auction and buy the car back.

What's stopping the offender going out and buying another Evo 9? Your logic is flawed. Should be sold and money used for a good cause.

Regardless of what gets done to the car, he has lost it, which is the lesson he should learn from

[shifted]

Too many young people are wiping themselves (and others) out by driving beyond their abilities, the location and the conditions. Cars are only getting faster and faster and parents are being less responsible and letting kids get 600hp cars.

That is all fair and good, but what they should be focusing on is driver education and training. We have the environment to allow it, but nothing is being done about it, and the system remains flawed.

[sprint347]

What's stopping the offender going out and buying another Evo 9? Your logic is flawed. Should be sold and money used for a good cause.

Regardless of what gets done to the car, he has lost it, which is the lesson he should learn from

I'm talking about the specific car, of which the owner has as sentimental attachment to, being completely eliminated. They're going for shock value.

[satch]

Its still the wrong message to send out, shock and dissapoinment will lead to resentment, which when manifested.....

[Basic]

Fuck. Don't suggest they use the money for a good cause, they'll end up buying more speed cameras.

[sprint347]

Like I said, I don't believe these laws are the right way to handle the situation.

But we have to at least admit that there is an issue.

The fact AL have started up the Motorsports side of things I believe is socially responsible and good for the future of AL.

[Sfidz]

this is a absolute waste of tax payers money.
from all the money they have spent chasing etc this car they could at least send it to auction to recoup some of the running costs caused by this car getting hoon lawed.

[DRKWRX]

So it gives the next person the opportunity do do the same thing , might not be right away but soon enough ...

so you're saying shouldn't auction the car off because the next owner will do the same? lol that's like saying you shouldn't have an evo either!

[dnl777]

It also makes the punishment unfair due to someone having a 1000 dollar pos compared to someone in a ferrari, so basically everyone should just buy shit cars if they want to fuck around in the street.....

There should be set fines as always and loss of license, none of this crushing bs...

Also does anyone know if motorbikes can be hoonlawed, I'm guessing they can just not 100%.

[Sfidz]

It also makes the punishment unfair due to someone having a 1000 dollar pos compared to someone in a ferrari, so basically everyone should just buy shit cars if they want to fuck around in the street.....

There should be set fines as always and loss of license, none of this crushing bs...

Also does anyone know if motorbikes can be hoonlawed, I'm guessing they can just not 100%.

im sure they could but doubt they would get caught....

[LostInTheWoods]

Sell the car, buy more cops for real cop work.

They are always complaining of not having enough money to put cops on the street, this is a 40k car being crushed, thats like lighting a fire on 40k cash, thats a junior officer (or close to).

[Justooon]

What I do not understand is how can the state government take your car?


Hypothetical situation:
Man has a 3 piece feed.. which he paid for with money he legitimately works for.. The man is caught not dipping chips in the potato and gravy on one occasion, then in a separate incident does not eat the skin and after further investigation he got a 7up with it and that shit is just fucked. So the Colonel takes back the 3 piece feed and bins it then refuses to offer the man any form of compensation.. So now the man has no 3 piece and is down about 14 bucks. (providing he got a large upgrade) Sure he man-handled that 3 piece and made a few wrong choices but why should that leave him without it?

When does the change in ownership happen? When does your car become the cops car because your a hoon?

Edit: OK, After speaking to a mate of mine I understand a little better.. they are taking away the tool in which you use to break the law. Like taking a gun off a armed robber or lab equipment off meth dealers.. Its an extreme measure that is taken to repeat offenders.. I just think its still fucked..

[e46pwa]

Crush these instead.
http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq129/tarik0/2fast2furioustwinevos.jpg

[mehow2g]

That is all fair and good, but what they should be focusing on is driver education and training. We have the environment to allow it, but nothing is being done about it, and the system remains flawed.

Thats true but money is too good it would cost them alot of money to do this.

If they made licences are fuck load more expensive it would work and there would be no need for speed cameras.. I say tax people for getting a licence not people who do 5km over the limit.

[Ryan1080]

I wonder what happens if a bank has security over the car??

If I was an owner with not much in assets and an expensive car I'd let the bank wear the cost of this instead, and wait 7 years for my record to wiped clean before applying for another loan again. I guess it's better than paying off a car that no longer exists lol!

[R3N]

don't have cars registered in your own name :D

[Fukushima]

its all media bullshit

in most cases the police would sell it, but some PR spin guy has decided to use this opportunity to send a message heading into 'hoon season' (summer)

hence the media being alerted, presence of politicians etc.

it is all about rob johnson having his photo taken next to a crushed car

[Breno]

lol @ "Heading into hoon season"

[mr_rotary]

If all the people on here who are jumping up and down about this calling it a 'publicity' stunt, then be proactive and organise a rally at the venue about why is the car is being crushed when the sale of the vehicle could of been given to victims of crime etc. With all the media there, I am sure you can get some of their attention!

[Bomber]

You know what else would get media attention?

Clocking that faggot Rob Johnson right between the eyes with a clenched fist.

[Mistikal]

Might go down for a look-see in the morning. There's bound to be some silly reason why they are crushing it and losing out on potential kitty-cash from an auction instead.

[duste]

^^ To make a point?

[Mistikal]

Exactly, some silly reason.

Edit:

Come to think of it, if there is question time for anyone, I might enquire as to why this vehicle wasn't sold as the fetching price at auction would be $35k+ (correct me if I'm wrong).

I also hope that the little turd that made the Ch7 report about the "underground car club" is present, and I'll give it my best efforts to park my car in such a way that the sticker is easily seen by everyone.

[RMCprime]

Its still the wrong message to send out, shock and dissapoinment will lead to resentment, which when manifested.....

"Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”

[ossie_21]

Suffering leads to skids

[beefcake]

i saw a bunky galant not an evo 9 ?

[shifted]

Auctions!!

[Lonewolf]

i saw a bunky galant not an evo 9 ?

lol yes I just saw this on the news.
90's galant SE getting crushed haha

[lazy6]

might be a tidy vu ss up next 3rd offence the guy is loosing his car, its funny seeing the amount of cars in the impound yards thou.

[FranZ]

I saw a Galant on news highlights...

[shifted]

Instead, they should donate the cars (like the Galant) to a proper driver learning centre (if they could fathom the idea of actually providing driver education and training for our licensing system in their peanut sized brains) and crush the absolute shitbox deathtraps that blow copious amounts of smoke to actually make a difference. The car is still taken away - crushing it or not doesn't make a difference..

Seems it is "too hard" to do the logical thing...

[mr_mike]

lol sounds like the bloke who told me it was an evo 9 was off the money just a bit, then again workshop to workshop chinese whispers i'm suprised there was any car getting crushed at all.

[Joe]

LOLLLL, its a fucking $2k Galant

[duste]

FUCK! NO! Not a Galant!

[TJ]

They are awesome bunkies!

Some pingpingpingping needs to stick Johnson in a crusher.

[Bomber]

They are awesome bunkies!

Some pingpingpingping needs to stick Johnson in between the ribs with a pencil and snap it off.

Fixed

[d1mitch]

^^ sounds like you are a member of the i hate WA police facebook page i saw on the news

[JME]

I wonder what happens if a bank has security over the car??

If I was an owner with not much in assets and an expensive car I'd let the bank wear the cost of this instead, and wait 7 years for my record to wiped clean before applying for another loan again. I guess it's better than paying off a car that no longer exists lol!

Exactly, the bank, and your insurance company for that matter would not be singing praises to the government if they threatened to crush your 100k car that is under finance or hire purchase.

[Ryan1080]

Exactly, the bank, and your insurance company for that matter would not be singing praises to the government if they threatened to crush your 100k car that is under finance or hire purchase.

I guess this has not yet been tested, but I'd love to see cops crush one, and then get sued by the finance company to recover the costs, and win. Would be classic. Rob Cockson would no doubt be forced to make the changes, or even better, resign.

Ah, dream on :(

[MAZDABATOR]

i bet it wont happen a second time.....

my invisible $100 dollar note is down payment to justify my bet