$15K, what 4x4 to get?

[KPWISHN]

I'll loosely say I got $15K to spend on another 4x4. I want it for basically driving to the airport every couple of weeks, thrashing in the bush with reliability and going on camping holidays. I currently have a pretty well setup HJ60 but I just need something with a bit more pace and a bit newer I guess.

Would probably buy a stocker and mod up myself unless one came up that was done up well. Been thinking Jeeps or Disco's.

Didn't realise there was so much 4by love around here. Suggestions.

[Passage GT]

if your used to the space of a 60 a jeep isn't an option
for that money you'd get a very nicely modded gq or a more standard 80 series
i wouldnt' go past either of those options

[SRE-86]

Yeah GQ or 80 be a good option, could pick up a mild Petrol GU for that price to.

Disco's are pretty nice, but very thirsty and not so big.

[PHIL]

I'll loosely say I got $15K to spend on another 4x4. I want it for basically driving to the airport every couple of weeks, thrashing in the bush with reliability and going on camping holidays. I currently have a pretty well setup HJ60 but I just need something with a bit more pace and a bit newer I guess.

Would probably buy a stocker and mod up myself unless one came up that was done up well. Been thinking Jeeps or Disco's.

Didn't realise there was so much 4by love around here. Suggestions.

you could make a crazy 60 and have change outta 15k go ls1 or boss 260 reductions and twin lockers maybe some 35s bit of bar work 2'' springs 2'' shackles and 2'' body lift
check out locktup 4x4.com.au chris is all about yotas

[KPWISHN]

My current 60 is a winner it's just a bit rusty, majorly underpowerd and weighs a heap.

Problem with LS1's and Boss' are they have bugger all balls low in the revs. The Boss doesn't have any up top either. lol. I've already thought about motor swaps but just think a lighter platform would be a better start. KJ Cherokee or a JK wrangler or something like that. I will end up going way overboard on it like I do with everything. Seems like Jeeps just have a lot of good gear you can get at good prices from the states.

Will check out locktup. Cheers.

[Niva]

buy niva, spend 14.5k on mods and realise uve made a mistake then sell to me for 7 lol

but seriosusly Im a big fan of the GU patrol, easy one handed fun when you switch to rwd too haha

[supraaah]

Mitsubishi Pajero NM... http://www.mynrma.com.au/cps/rde/xchg/mynrma/hs.xsl/mitsubishi_pajero_2000_car_review.htm

My mate just bought a 2000 model for 15K and we've taken it to the power-lines track in Mundaring and the sand dunes in Alkimos, it performed awesome.

[mr_mike]

Brunswick conversion for the 60 series. $15k should almost cover it drive in drive out

[T-Diddy]

ive got a 60 series cruiser, an would say, find one, rust(ish) free, an go a later model with the 12ht, add some boost, an they HAUL ass, an even survive rhys driving them(an even with rust, as i found out, there easy as fuck to fix)

or gq gu patrol, pretty much what ive said about 60 series, goes the same for early patrols

U mite find an 80 for the money, but they all seem a bit flogged out atm, you'll pay 15k for a gooden, but wont have money to fix shit if its broke

[PHIL]

Brunswick conversion for the 60 series. $15k should almost cover it drive in drive out

wouldnt touch a brunny diesle ya better of wacking a turbo or s/c on ya current diesle

[magic1]

I wouldn't touch a brunswick diesel you are better off whacking a turbo or s/c on ya current diesel

fixed


why?

[Deke]

i own a disco and find that there plenty of space for what i need , and for a 2.5TD it goes pretty much everywere , iv towed a dingy down the beach more then 10 time and never got stuck. iv only had 2 problems with mine, the first one i had to replace my transfer because it smashd all the gears after having fuck all oil in it from the guy i bought it off and secondly iv just done a wheel bearing but i guess that comes with time. mines a 1994 and i payed 7.5 and its been modded a little bit with a lift kit and tyres and stuff and the motor only has 9000k's on it. but im sure you can get a cheaper or newer one for your price range and a better example. but you also cant go past a GU patrol.

[2jzlux]

80 series petrol 4.5l cruiser and gt42 kit.

[DISTRBD]

Brunswick conversion for the 60 series. $15k should almost cover it drive in drive out

Over rated junk

[esky]

fixed


why?

brunswick are very expensive for a very heavy underpowered junk motor.

[(AUST)Mod]

brunswick are very expensive for a very heavy underpowered junk motor.

Seconded.

[PHIL]

had a 45 with 6.5 s/c sold it after 3 weeks = useless

[KPWISHN]

60 is gone. Sold last night. :)

I'm properly looking now.

[AGIT8D]

Borrow old man's twin turbo landcruiser
??
Profit!

[mitchy]

brunswick are very expensive for a very heavy underpowered junk motor.

they sound bombed... buuut that's about all you get for your $20k

[KPWISHN]

Borrow old man's twin turbo landcruiser
??
Profit!

Haha, yeah I wouldn't mind a 200 series. I'll probably end up with it in a couple of years. Have been considering buying a new 70 series 5 seater. Just not sure how much I want to spend. More dollars on 4by = Less dollars on the Commy or the house.

[Tre-Cool]

dad picked up an imaculate 2002 turbo patrol for less than 14k 4 months or so ago.

not sure on the exact model, gu i think? looks similar to the current model anyway.

[Mad_Aussie]

but seriosusly Im a big fan of the GU patrol, easy one handed fun when you switch to rwd too haha

Avoid GU patrols unless they have the 4.2 in them. The ZD30 diesel is a hand grenade, our one blew 3 pistons at 110,000kms. You buy one of these, you will have to end up buying a new motor.

[SEXUAL TYRANNOSAURUS]

Avoid GU patrols unless they have the 4.2 in them. The ZD30 diesel is a hand grenade, our one blew 3 pistons at 110,000kms. You buy one of these, you will have to end up buying a new motor.

WRONG!!!

The ZD30 problem was rectified after the GUIII... Also the petrol's are problem free. Unless i own one...

If it where my money, i would go a GQ shorty or a GU 4.2td DX... leaves enough money for tyres and lift!

[Mad_Aussie]

WRONG!!!


Sigh,
Ok, if you specify GUIII, but any GU series 1 or 2, which funnily enough are the ones you find for sub-15k, are more than likely to go pop on you.

[DISTRBD]

Avoid GU patrols unless they have the 4.2 in them. The ZD30 diesel is a hand grenade, our one blew 3 pistons at 110,000kms. You buy one of these, you will have to end up buying a new motor.

4.2 had box problems also , 5th gear was junk

[Passage GT]

i've heard of many forby's blowing fifth because people tow heavy loads in fifth and they don't like it
and the brunswick conversion is 25k drive in drive out these days, not sure how being on a 60 would make it 10k cheaper
s3 zd30 onwards is ok to drive but pretty highly strung pushing such a big car, saying that i drive the old mans' regularly and it has no problems overtaking on the highway etc and he tows a large caravan with no issues, could do with an exhaust and chip but
if you manage to find a td42 gu for 15k i'd imagine it will have about 500,000km on it
bloke at work is looking at selling his sometime soon, 2002 td42 gu with less than 150,000 km on the clock, he asked me if i thought he'd get 20k for it...
before my brother got his tj wrangler we looked at a gq with a 6.5, lifted on 35s with twin airlockers etc, was 15k and a little rough around the edges, unstoppable though

[esky]

people want stupid money forthe td42's

theres a 2005 st-l 4.2t with 130,000k's. It's got about 10k worth of mods. guy wants 60k for it. i doubt he paid that much for it new.

[DISTRBD]

GU up to 02 had smaller gear n mainshaft , Nissan clearly seen the error of there ways and supplied replacement shafts as per GQ style . My landlord blew 5th in his GU ute beginning of this year and its never towed a trailer in its life .


4.2 go for drug money as the 3ltrs are fail . i was offered 12k for my turbo 4.2 GQ wagon

[coucheee]

Def get a 4.2 gq buy a safari turbo kit little bit of lift, tyres and a locker or two and you will have yourself a weapon

[Qaz]

I have got a 1996 jeep cherokee with a 2 inch lift and all the upgrades for 10500 if your interested.

[Passage GT]

GU up to 02 had smaller gear n mainshaft , Nissan clearly seen the error of there ways and supplied replacement shafts as per GQ style . My landlord blew 5th in his GU ute beginning of this year and its never towed a trailer in its life .


4.2 go for drug money as the 3ltrs are fail . i was offered 12k for my turbo 4.2 GQ wagon

was this a recall from nissan to get it fixed bart?
the one i've got my eye on is an 02, should i be looking to see if it's had it replaced?

[DISTRBD]

was this a recall from nissan to get it fixed bart?
the one i've got my eye on is an 02, should i be looking to see if it's had it replaced?

As far as i know it wasnt , imagine them calling back every manual 4.2 to have box rebuilt :(


Mates 2009 3.0ltr has had box out already under warranty , fukn renault just build shit these days

[PABS]

Jeep-shite
Cruiser- too heavy and guzzler
Patrol- Good power, chew through junes
Hilux- shite- primative

Discovery or Defender- The way to go. Pleanty of space, light and will chew through all terrain even mud!

Defender empty doesnt even way 2 tonne, huge diff (although diff ratio's arent great for highway driving), great suspension and good on fuel- My pick of the lot

[Mad_Aussie]

Discovery or Defender- The way to go. Pleanty of space, light and will chew through all terrain even mud!
Defender empty doesnt even way 2 tonne!

Shit if you plan to go up north with one. Seen many a broken landrover up in the Kimberly rotting in the bush. Defenders like to snap things, after many many failed attempts at other brands, landcruisers ended up being the pick of the bunch at the family station.

[mitchy]

if you want to go up north, buy a white 80 series.

did about 8000km over xmas up as far as derby, and seriously they were fvcking EVERYWHERE.
you could buy one in perth, drive it up there and sell it for twice the price, then fly home with money in your pocket too.

[Mad_Aussie]

if you want to go up north, buy a white 80 series.

did about 8000km over xmas up as far as derby, and seriously they were fvcking EVERYWHERE.
you could buy one in perth, drive it up there and sell it for twice the price, then fly home with money in your pocket too.

Actually, it surprises me at how many Delicas you see up there now! Would really hate to take one down a dirt road.

But yeah, Land Rovers are designed for poms to trudge through marshes and meadows and faggoty british things like that, in Australia they are completely out of place.

[mitchy]

we did see a couple of delica's up there too...

we also saw an excel on the dirt track heading out to Cape Leveque, getting air off the bumps... was the single most funny thing i have ever seen in my life.

this track is about 50km out of broome, and goes for about 100km+ too, not a small dirt road...

[mys1]

Hyundai Excels go anywere!

Seriously the fuckers will not die!

[KPWISHN]

Jeep-shite

Why are they shit? Serious question. I here a few stories here and there. Granted, Sepo's make them. Build quality is meant to be pretty ordinary. What else?

Have been looking at '05-'06ish KJ TD cherokees. They seem pretty cheap at $19-23K for a relatively new car with only 25-40,000kms on ones I'd consider. Mods are readily available both here and in the USA. I assume 2 adults and 2 young kids should fit in quite easily.

Bad idea or what?

[Mad_Aussie]

Why are they shit? Serious question. I here a few stories here and there. Granted, Sepo's make them. Build quality is meant to be pretty ordinary. What else?

Have been looking at '05-'06ish KJ TD cherokees. They seem pretty cheap at $19-23K for a relatively new car with only 25-40,000kms on ones I'd consider. Mods are readily available both here and in the USA. I assume 2 adults and 2 young kids should fit in quite easily.

Bad idea or what?

Bad idea.

[KPWISHN]

???

[PABS]

Shit if you plan to go up north with one. Seen many a broken landrover up in the Kimberly rotting in the bush. Defenders like to snap things, after many many failed attempts at other brands, landcruisers ended up being the pick of the bunch at the family station.

DO NOT AGREE!

At work i have had:

3 cherokee's with blown spider gears
Cruisers with awful fuel economy when towing especially
Family station... YES because they are soo big and everybody is brainwashed. They are over priced, way too heavy. We had one guy towing a 20ft trailer with an expansion tank to 120ltrs. he filled up after 400kms!!!!! Maybe the guy can't drive but thats just ridiculous!

Those that service they're cars well change oil regularly on diesels have next to NO problems. Boss has a Defender and no other 4x4 goes where he goes. Be it mud, sand, bush- they are soooo tough. Look underneath one-solid as f**k. This definatley includes North as thats the only real areas he goes (fishing lover!!)

[PABS]

Hyundai Excels go anywere!

Seriously the fuckers will not die!

especially at wedge considering you can get there by a normal road. Those excels are everywhere now haha!!

[Mad_Aussie]

Family station... YES because they are soo big and everybody is brainwashed.

Not exactly brainwashed dude, a lot of thought goes into the purchases... They don't buy shit at Roy Hill without good reason, except for airplanes. If a car is no good for station work then its no good for fuckall IMO. Wouldn't trust a Land Rover out in the sticks.

[PABS]

Not exactly brainwashed dude, a lot of thought goes into the purchases... They don't buy shit at Roy Hill without good reason, except for airplanes. If a car is no good for station work then its no good for fuckall IMO. Wouldn't trust a Land Rover out in the sticks.

Roy Hill?

[KPWISHN]

Seached Defenders on Carsales and in WA there are 2 for sale that aren't brand new. Utes too. ba bow.

[PABS]

IMO- V8 Discovery, which you'll pick up for less then 10k, swap to Defender diff, jack it up and your laughing.

[KPWISHN]

Researching them says they over heat bulk. Half the ones I've seen say new heads, or top end rebuilt, etc. Scares me off a bit.

[Mad_Aussie]

Roy Hill?

Yar, as in just out of Mt Magnet

[PABS]

well I'm only going off what i work with at work.
You say overheating- why does a car overheat?
thermo
waterpump
coolant glyco levels too low
coolant leaks due to above points and poor hoses or cracked radiator.

All this can be monitored and overheating will be avoided. There is no reason a car should overheat if all this is proper. Then you say heads. Well yes if you let the car overheat, blow a headgasket and warp the head, sure your up for a new head.
But again, all can be avoided.

I'm sure 70% of true 4x4 drivers, these cars arent they're daily's, they are taken out on long weekends and holidays. In between they are not taken care off. They will look at the coolant level and see if it has colour and assume all is fine for a 2,000km trip. If the coolant is low they top it up not thinking the system has a leak. If the coolant is low there is a leak in the system, guaranteed. Where else would it go???

[PABS]

Yar, as in just out of Mt Magnet

If your refering to a mine site then offcourse they will go with cruisers. Think how many are on the road which results in Great fleet rates and easily available parts.
Doesn't mean you cant find parts for British. Just need to know where to look.
Mine sites go with cruisers because for a multi million dollar company it is easier and more cost effective thus being more feasible and reliable.

[stout250]

Ever considered something a bit older? You could pick up a Sahara or Deluxe model reasonably cheap, spend the leftovers on making sure its reliable and up to scratch...

Could score a 12HT powered 60 series for as little as around 5-6k....

Upside is that parts are everywhere, and they are piss easy to fix on the side of the road/ track.

Same goes with the GQ's, could find a Ti variant easily with the money you want to spend, and parts are easy to find, even easier than 'cruisers...

[AGIT8D]

What are you looking to tackle Lewis? Mud and sand on the beach with some dunes, or rocky roads in the middle of the desert?

[Mad_Aussie]

If your refering to a mine site then offcourse they will go with cruisers. Think how many are on the road which results in Great fleet rates and easily available parts.
Doesn't mean you cant find parts for British. Just need to know where to look.
Mine sites go with cruisers because for a multi million dollar company it is easier and more cost effective thus being more feasible and reliable.

Roy Hill isn't just a mine dude, lol! They've been running cattle for at least 80 years. Sure, the company running the mine would be using fleet vehicles, but the station and all their staff have run everything from daihatsus to G Wagens. Landcruisers win.

[KPWISHN]

What are you looking to tackle Lewis? Mud and sand on the beach with some dunes, or rocky roads in the middle of the desert?

Mostly sand. Callcup, Yeagorup, Coral Bay, Albany, Esperance, Wedge, Broome, etc. Good camping locations for the kids pretty much.

Have done a few inland trips but it's hard to beat the beach and coastal rivers and the likes with the kids. If I do go mud trecking it won't be trying to hit up the most extreme line or what ever. I've settled and that isn't really what I'm about.

I'm no newbie to fourbies. I've had Landcruisers/Hilux's/Tritons from stock to bombed and a Suzi Vitara which just about went anywhere. I've done most good tracks in WA from the Eucla region right through to the Kimberlies.

Will probably stick with what I know and buy an 80 series. Pretty hard to beat really. If i get sick of the lack of power I'll get a cummins 6.7 TD and cram that in it's cram hole la fleur.

[Mad_Aussie]

Will probably stick with what I know and buy an 80 series. Pretty hard to beat really. If i get sick of the lack of power I'll get a cummins 6.7 TD and cram that in it's cram hole la fleur.

Can't fault an 80 series :)

[AGIT8D]

Will probably stick with what I know and buy an 80 series. Pretty hard to beat really. If i get sick of the lack of power I'll get a cummins 6.7 TD and cram that in it's cram hole la fleur.

Hahahahahahaha!!! Sounds like you'll be onto a good thing, Toyo's are tough.

[PABS]

Roy Hill isn't just a mine dude, lol! They've been running cattle for at least 80 years. Sure, the company running the mine would be using fleet vehicles, but the station and all their staff have run everything from daihatsus to G Wagens. Landcruisers win.

ahh ok.

It appears that KWISHN isn't after a vehicle for extreme 4x4. The camping, dunes and some muddy/bush terain.
I would say most 4x4's mentioned will do this no problem so It will come down to personal preference. Opinions of others are just opinions and are often based on experiences which has a lot to do with the driver. AND, buying privately you run the risk of buying the lemon at which point all our recommendations go out the window haha

If you've settled down, buy something comfy and reliable that you can still have fun with. But stay away from Jeep as they are weak.


For a bit of fun check out the vid of the all mighty Patrol!

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Peace!

[Mad_Aussie]

But stay away from Jeep as they are weak.


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[PABS]

hahahaha precisely!
but these guys are morons!!
how did you post the vid like that?

[DRKWRX]

I have a 2001 v8 discovery, would not buy another one lol chews the fuel has broken so much shit! this year ive replaced, waterpump,power steering pump, couple exhaust gaskets, radiator, front shaft(just snapped when i was taking off from the lights) thats all i can think of atm, I took it up to the Pilbara earlier this year didn't break thank god but did blow an exhaust gasket right near manifold, was loud as fuck the 1400kms back

[PABS]

I have a 2001 v8 discovery, would not buy another one lol chews the fuel has broken so much shit! this year ive replaced, waterpump,power steering pump, couple exhaust gaskets, radiator, front shaft(just snapped when i was taking off from the lights) thats all i can think of atm, I took it up to the Pilbara earlier this year didn't break thank god but did blow an exhaust gasket right near manifold, was loud as fuck the 1400kms back

wow!

[Passage GT]

my shitter gets a bit over 400km's for it's 90litre tank not towing anything so for a large petrol v8, the landcruiser figures above towing would be quite normal
defenders simply aren't that tough, look at their diff's gbox and transfer compared to a patrol and be amazed at the size difference, a lot of people chuck patrol diffs' under their older defenders for strength, cheaper than buying upgraded axles etc from the uk
guy at work has the ultimate defender, bought it brand new and decked it out for touring with every imagineable accessory,
and he's not planning on going on his big trip for another 2 years because he wants to learn how to fix it first..
he loves the car but he's a realist and knows they're not as reliable as the jap cars
biggest problems i've heard with jeep is overheating, purely because the older cherokee's were designed with a 4cyl in mind and got the ancient six shoved in there, keeping your cooling system in good condition and fitting bonnet scoops or even a spacer at the windscreen end to let air out helps a heap
only problem with an 80 series if they still demand good coin if you want one in half decent nick without half a million kays on the clock, good for resale though and great cars

[DRKWRX]

yeah the disco is good for long drives 14 hours straight no problems but only when it works :(

[DISTRBD]

my shitter gets a bit over 400km's for it's 90litre tank not towing anything so for a large petrol v8, the landcruiser figures above towing would be quite normal

I can go to barbs n back on 3/4 tank with pootrol towing the race car :)

[eScoRt20]

well I'm only going off what i work with at work.
You say overheating- why does a car overheat?
thermo
waterpump
coolant glyco levels too low
coolant leaks due to above points and poor hoses or cracked radiator.

All this can be monitored and overheating will be avoided. There is no reason a car should overheat if all this is proper. Then you say heads. Well yes if you let the car overheat, blow a headgasket and warp the head, sure your up for a new head.
But again, all can be avoided.

I'm sure 70% of true 4x4 drivers, these cars arent they're daily's, they are taken out on long weekends and holidays. In between they are not taken care off. They will look at the coolant level and see if it has colour and assume all is fine for a 2,000km trip. If the coolant is low they top it up not thinking the system has a leak. If the coolant is low there is a leak in the system, guaranteed. Where else would it go???

mate, obviously never worked on european cars. they need to be serviced religiously, their whole life. one over due service early on, and your still chasing problems from it 100 000k's later. and the majority of people who buy land rovers buy them for the image, and are not prepared to pay the maintenance bills. land rovers are renowned for doing heads for no reason other than the car got bored. all landrover genuine parts are expensive, and non-gen parts are just crap.

and before you go off saying most awarded 4wd in the world blah blah blah, they are built for a cold climate. they run hot here. same as Volvos, same as BMW's, same as all European cars. they cannot handle the heat in Australia, hence the cooling problems.

and yes, i do know what i am talking about, my brother is 2IC at one of the biggest landrover parts suppliers in perth, my mate is one of the best landrover specific mechanics in perth, and i work on Volvo's and other european crap all day.

[devilfish]

Jeeps are not shite, i will challenge anyone to come out and say that after a trip in mine. toyotas and nissans are overrated. You do however need to be special to own a jeep ;)

Landrovers also come in for a lot of crap, i drove these for 13 years back in the UK with the forces.

all it comes down to is availability of parts, and with half a brain and the internet that is no problem whatever brand you have.

you will break stuff if you drive off the bitumen.

[short-shift]

ML500

The end

[johnnyrx7]

gq shorty.. and youll have a shit load of change from 15k, havent managed to get this one stuck anywhere yet, tough as and looks mint.

might be for sale soon too, only because i need a ute for hunting
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[PHIL]

Jeeps are not shite, i will challenge anyone to come out and say that after a trip in mine. toyotas and nissans are overrated. You do however need to be special to own a jeep ;)

Landrovers also come in for a lot of crap, i drove these for 13 years back in the UK with the forces.

all it comes down to is availability of parts, and with half a brain and the internet that is no problem whatever brand you have.

you will break stuff if you drive off the bitumen.

im keen for a fourby to see how well the jeep goes. i would say toyotas and nissans are over rated they are built for australian climate thats why people buy them if they were built to jap spec no one would buy them

[KPWISHN]

gq shorty.. and youll have a shit load of change from 15k, havent managed to get this one stuck anywhere yet, tough as and looks mint.

My old man had a similar Nissan one with a maitland cage in it. Competed in the Australian Safari a couple of years back. Drove it all the way up there and then raced it all the way back. No drama's except smashed wing mirrors and tyres. They are a good bus. Having 2 kids in car seats though unfortunately makes a shorty out of the question for me. Top looking Mav you have there btw.

[PABS]

mate, obviously never worked on european cars. they need to be serviced religiously, their whole life. one over due service early on, and your still chasing problems from it 100 000k's later. and the majority of people who buy land rovers buy them for the image, and are not prepared to pay the maintenance bills. land rovers are renowned for doing heads for no reason other than the car got bored. all landrover genuine parts are expensive, and non-gen parts are just crap.

and before you go off saying most awarded 4wd in the world blah blah blah, they are built for a cold climate. they run hot here. same as Volvos, same as BMW's, same as all European cars. they cannot handle the heat in Australia, hence the cooling problems.

and yes, i do know what i am talking about, my brother is 2IC at one of the biggest landrover parts suppliers in perth, my mate is one of the best landrover specific mechanics in perth, and i work on Volvo's and other european crap all day.

Ahhh, mate. I work at a bosch workshop and am around european most of the time and ur every day car.
Our regulars dont have these problems nor do we hav problems with parts or price.
But im not getting in a shit fight about this as we are talking experiences and everyones are different.

[DISTRBD]

toyotas and nissans are over rated they are built for australian climate thats why people buy them if they were built to jap spec no one would buy them

Jap imports we had through here are near on indentical to the aus version ,cosmetic difference's and patrol 24v compared to aus 12v other .

[Mad_Aussie]

im keen for a fourby to see how well the jeep goes. i would say toyotas and nissans are over rated they are built for australian climate thats why people buy them if they were built to jap spec no one would buy them

Wut?

[Dagon]

Yeah... because of all the extreme offroad tracks there are in Tokyo...

Seriously though, Toyota 4Runner == win. Just as hard as any Hilux/Landy, but not quite as big or expensive. Hilux Surf is the same thing, just they're imports and the parts are more expensive.

[Mad_Aussie]

Yeah... because of all the extreme offroad tracks there are in Tokyo...

Seriously though, Toyota 4Runner == win. Just as hard as any Hilux/Landy, but not quite as big or expensive. Hilux Surf is the same thing, just they're imports and the parts are more expensive.

Just avoid ones with IFS

[Dagon]

IFS? unfamiliar...
...instant fail syndrome?

[Mad_Aussie]

Independent Front Suspension... Its Fucking Shit


edit: here's the image I was hunting for...
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u277/Kickars2/DSCF5201.jpg

[Fozzy]

I think i read further back that you were looking at possibly a dual cab 4x4.. If thats the case get down to the ex council fleet auctions.. There is heaps of them and they are usually cheap with low kms. Some of them are fucked but if you can get some premo ones at huge savings.

[DanWA]

+1 for not getting IFS

Had a Pajero, was shit

Brother had a Jackaroo, was shit

My solid axle GQ and solid axel rollux chomp them

[Adrian]

Gotta love the GQ, I have one. Its for sale. Turbo diesel. Has to be lol

[Mad_Aussie]

Gotta love the GQ, I have one. Its for sale. Turbo diesel. Has to be lol

Turbo Diesel can be a prick on long gravel roads up north, driving for a hundred clicks along rutted roads in 2nd gear tends to warm TD's up pretty quick. Not so much an issue down here though.

[Adrian]

lol, already attended to that with 2 big 10" thermos and a new viscous fan coupling, they are renowned for failing so I got a brand new one on there. It turns the thermos lol. hasnt even gone above half way.

[DCEVO]

Ive had my Manual V8 2002 Discovery for 4 years now the only things Ive replaced on it are a Front propshaft and manifold valley gaskets and thats it !!
We've done just over 100thou kays in it all up in that time with no dramas
Apart from the usual maintenance and servicing it allways brings us back
Never gets hot either

As for a decent rig
Patrol is toughest driveline wise
Toyota for parts and service australia wide
And definately turbo deisel for economy and power

I have only ever had Landies though

If it was me Id go Toyota as Patrols steer like shit

[gazza.jb]

i got a 60 series with a 6.2 v8 diesel absolutely love it great off road

[Gladio]

What would be better a GQ 4.2TD or a RB25det conversion GQ?

[PHIL]

What would be better a GQ 4.2TD or a RB25det conversion GQ?

definately the gq 4.2td 3'' zorst and intercooler with a good dyno tune raise the boost. awesome offroad and onroad

[DISTRBD]

Turbo Diesel can be a prick on long gravel roads up north, driving for a hundred clicks along rutted roads in 2nd gear tends to warm TD's up pretty quick. Not so much an issue down here though.

Time for cooling system overhaul

[Passage GT]

Time for cooling system overhaul x2

for a forby i'd go a td42 over an rb25 any day of the week
big cars need big torque at low revs
can't sit on 5000rpm full boost climbing rocks..

[Friar]

ummmm 5000rpm is that all have seen many a clutch dump from todd in his old patrol at like 8k rpm plus to get up hills if he couldnt make it adjust the limit on the power fc and try again good value

[devilfish]

ummmm 5000rpm is that all have seen many a clutch dump from todd in his old patrol at like 8k rpm plus to get up hills if he couldnt make it adjust the limit on the power fc and try again good value

Tread lightly :shake:

[Niva]

is dead an burried

[Douche Bag]

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Land-Rover-Discovery-1995-V8i-4x4-/290497347674?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item43a2fdc05a

Looks like a bargain?

We had a 1994 one and it was awesome.

[gtr_eta]

Lancruiser or patrol if you want to drive in remote areas other wise get your jeep or rover if your not going remote areas a tow is always a phone call away lol

[DRKWRX]

^ what he said, I wont take my disco any further then few hundred kms or so from home now lol!

[KPWISHN]

Still haven't got one or made up my mind yet. Will keep looking until a good opportunity presents itself.

[KPWISHN]

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i41/kpwishn/11022011079.jpg

Finally got myself a good deal. Turbo diesel, 5 speed and in very good condition.

[AGIT8D]

When are we taking it out in the dunes Lewy?