Wikileaks Insurance

[Mad_Aussie]

Anonymous is mobilising to support Wikileaks.
Don't know if there's a thread yet on this, but download the insurance document, put them on CD's, thumb sticks, etc. If Wikileaks or Assange are taken out, then there's a whole bunch of people out there that will distribute the key to unlock the file.

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5723136/WikiLeaks_insurance

http://njuice.com/g/Anonymous-mobilized-defense-WikiLeaks

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Also FYI, facebook is actively censoring any links to the documents, as well as links to that image... Freedom of speech? Yeah right.

[Halle Terry]

Downloading now.

[Mad_Aussie]

I've got a spool of 100 DVD's here, time 4 mailbox spam

[[Jacek]]

Someone want to fill me in? Havent quite been following what has been happening with this whole thing

[fourseven]

Assange is a target. Authorities world wide are trying to "destroy" Wikileaks by shutting down and/or attacking servers.

The torrent is the cablegate/warlogs/wikileaks site, encrypted. If Assange and his team are shutdown or arrested, the method for decrypting this file will be released so people can continue hosting it.

Interesting that since that ginger pingpingpingping in Canberra was called out publically, the AG is now insisting that Assange is welcome home anytime and will get consular assistance. Fuck you Gillard you smelly pingpingpingping hole.

[Skitzo]

This will die down tomorrow, when the new WOW expansion is available.

[Dagon]

This will die down tomorrow, when the new WOW expansion is available.This depresses the hell out of me. That's totally going to happen =S

[ben351]

seriously ... why cant we just use the internet for whats i was designed for ... Porn

[mitchy]

seriously ... why cant we just use the internet for whats i was designed for ... Porn

amen!
i dont have time to read shit like this when i'm trying to rip the head off it.

[stumps.]

They have the internet on computers now?

[shifted]

Going to download as soon as it hits home time.

Rape allegations being thrown at him at the moment aren't they?

[to4garret]

Going to download as soon as it hits home time.

Rape allegations being thrown at him at the moment aren't they?

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2010/12/wikileaks-julian-assange-is-not-a-rapist/

media misreporting again

[Mad_Aussie]

Good article, lol @ 'sex by surprise'...

[jedi_luke]

why are they after paypal?

[fourseven]

PayPal froze the Wikileaks account after being pressured by US authorities.

[Adr3naL1N]

rape allegations? conspiracy? who knows!

lol i cant stop laughing at your profile pic four7, i dont think i can take massa seriously anymore.

[_S9_]

sadly this will be forgotten in a few days... just like "r34 girl" :(

[Mad_Aussie]

sadly this will be forgotten in a few days... just like "r34 girl" :(

Yeah, because it's not like it's been in the news for the last 12 months...

[peter_piper]

Apparently:


I decrypted it.

Here it is: http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3271174
Which turns up Fahrenheit 911 (2004) DVDRip of the same size.




Checksum appears to be original though, I think this poster to be bullshitting.

[Mad_Aussie]

Don't feed the troll peter_piper

[peter_piper]

Indeed, i'd rather pick a peck of pickled peppers. Seriously considering registering wikileaks.asn.au or .id.au and hosting it privately hey.

[Halle Terry]

So what exactly did I download then? I was under the assumption it was a RAR or cached copy of the website.

[shifted]

DO IT!!!

PS. Heaps of clowns will do the whole "I decrypted it" shit but I doubt Anonymous would choose an encryption that is that easily broken. Either way - isn't it just a back up of the leaked documents?

It is just a back-up of their website isn't it?

[duste]

What does a government have to fear if they have done nothing wrong?

[shifted]

What does a government have to fear if they have done nothing wrong?

I LOL'd at KRudd's advise on China.

Need to ditch all/most world leaders.... and idiot spec politicians...

[fourseven]

Indeed, i'd rather pick a peck of pickled peppers. Seriously considering registering wikileaks.asn.au or .id.au and hosting it privately hey.

I wouldn't advise it.

[tinto]

Indeed, i'd rather pick a peck of pickled peppers.

I'm still laughing. Well played.

[duste]

Hmm, torrent won't download for me.

[devilfish]

assange is gonna reveal that were all governed by an elite group of extra terrestrial lizards on Wednesday.

But seriously governments should be afraid of the people, the are just out of touch and coerced by big business $$$.

Time for a reset... vive la revolution!

[Sciflyer]

What does a government have to fear if they have done nothing wrong?

haha well played

[Mad_Aussie]

http://www.news.com.au/technology/what-about-shutting-down-wikileaks-easier-said-than-done-as-it-turns-out/story-e6frfro0-1225967014452

500+ mirrors...

Internet: 1, USA: 0

[Dagon]

Until Assange is absolved of his current charges, it's most definitely too early to call it a victory for the Internet, dude. If Assange goes away then it will be a helluvva blow to Wikileaks and to the future of free speech and unfiltered internet.

Being able to torrent+download the information just proves a point; we need Wikileaks to be around in the first place to release the information first.

[stumps.]

Has he been seen in the last few days? He is probably already dead. Jason Bourne

[Brockas]

lol @ comments on that news.com.au article.

People calling governments "stupid" while using words like 'somehoe' and 'speach'.

[duste]

Dagon, you have to realise that Assange is not the only journalist behind wikileaks. :)

[Mad_Aussie]

The thing is, the UK knows where he is, he told them. He has been co-operating with them wholly. The "charges" are minor offences only applicable to Swedish law, and are just small fines.

If anything were to happen to Assange, it will create an even bigger shit-storm than if he just released the documents without hassle - The world press would not let a journalist be knocked off because he was reporting the story he was given, especially now with the global attention he's recieving. I'm hoping this is the beginning of something huge.

[Dagon]

Dagon, you have to realise that Assange is not the only journalist behind wikileaks. :)Duste, you have to realise that being a ninja-freedom-fighter-hacker-journalist is awesome and it's great that there is (and will ALWAYS will be) people that do this, but 95% of what Wikileaks is, is a huge body of lawyers. They chew through more money in fending off lawsuits and counter-suits in a week than most of us make in a year.

The real threat here is that if they succeed in putting Assange away then it sets a (conceptual and actual) legal precedent whereupon foreign countries can charge you under another country's laws, you don't get a say in what you can do, and you don't get a say in how it pans out. Go to jail, do not pass go.

And don't count on journalists of the "world press" letting "one of their own" doing anything, either. They'll write a story on it and then move onto whatever new influenza strain is going to apparently cause the apocalypse, and most of the public is going to forget about it apart from a bunch of slacktivists on the internet... oh, and 4chan =P

TL;DR - donate to Wikileaks, it needs your help!

[shifted]

TL;DR - donate to Wikileaks, it needs your help!

No point. PayPal froze the accounts. Unless another one is now active and legit?

[Mad_Aussie]

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/41914.html



Dear Prime Minister,

We note with concern the increasingly violent rhetoric directed towards Julian Assange of WikiLeaks.

“We should treat Mr Assange the same way as other high-value terrorist targets: Kill him,” writes conservative columnist Jeffrey T Kuhner in the Washington Times.

William Kristol, former chief of staff to vice president Dan Quayle, asks, “Why can’t we use our various assets to harass, snatch or neutralize Julian Assange and his collaborators, wherever they are?”

“Why isn’t Julian Assange dead?” writes the prominent US pundit Jonah Goldberg.

“The CIA should have already killed Julian Assange,” says John Hawkins on the Right Wing News site.

Sarah Palin, a likely presidential candidate, compares Assange to an Al Qaeda leader; Rick Santorum, former Pennsylvania senator and potential presidential contender, accuses Assange of “terrorism”.

And so on and so forth.

Such calls cannot be dismissed as bluster. Over the last decade, we have seen the normalisation of extrajudicial measures once unthinkable, from ‘extraordinary rendition’ (kidnapping) to ‘enhanced interrogation’ (torture).

In that context, we now have grave concerns for Mr Assange’s wellbeing.

Irrespective of the political controversies surrounding WikiLeaks, Mr Assange remains entitled to conduct his affairs in safety, and to receive procedural fairness in any legal proceedings against him.

As is well known, Mr Assange is an Australian citizen.

We therefore call upon you to condemn, on behalf of the Australian Government, calls for physical harm to be inflicted upon Mr Assange, and to state publicly that you will ensure Mr Assange receives the rights and protections to which he is entitled, irrespective of whether the unlawful threats against him come from individuals or states.

We urge you to confirm publicly Australia’s commitment to freedom of political communication; to refrain from cancelling Mr Assange's passport, in the absence of clear proof that such a step is warranted; to provide assistance and advocacy to Mr Assange; and do everything in your power to ensure that any legal proceedings taken against him comply fully with the principles of law and procedural fairness.

A statement by you to this effect should not be controversial – it is a simple commitment to democratic principles and the rule of law.

We believe this case represents something of a watershed, with implications that extend beyond Mr Assange and WikiLeaks. In many parts of the globe, death threats routinely silence those who would publish or disseminate controversial material. If these incitements to violence against Mr Assange, a recipient of Amnesty International’s Media Award, are allowed to stand, a disturbing new precedent will have been established in the English-speaking world.

In this crucial time, a strong statement by you and your Government can make an important difference.

We look forward to your response.

[Sully]

There's a fair chance this is going to wind up being a bit like the whole napster/limewire/pirate bay shenanigans but on a greater scale and possibly will have an effect on how organisations work. There's no way the authorities involved are going to track down every single person involved in making Wikileaks work. Wikileaks might get shut down but something else similar will pop up. As long as there's classified information to be had people will try and get their hands on it.

Things are classified for a reason and it's human nature to not like having things hidden from you.

[DRKWRX]

lol

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-bank-that-froze-julian-assanges-bank-account-has-now-been-taken-down-by-hackers-2010-12

[Mad_Aussie]

lol

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-bank-that-froze-julian-assanges-bank-account-has-now-been-taken-down-by-hackers-2010-12

lol
Having so much fun reading about all of this at the moment

http://www.collectiveroots.org/files/u3/can_of_worms.jpg

Edit: http://newsjunkiepost.com/2010/12/06/the-empire-is-collapsing-and-americans-will-be-the-last-to-know/

If you can get past some of the minor grammatical errors, this is a very good read...

[Crispymk2]

Wikileaks the movie due out 2011?

Script is getting written for them...

Just waiting for the headline:
Julian Assange found dead in apparent suicide



“We should treat Mr Assange the same way as other high-value terrorist targets: Kill him,” writes conservative columnist Jeffrey T Kuhner in the Washington Times.

William Kristol, former chief of staff to vice president Dan Quayle, asks, “Why can’t we use our various assets to harass, snatch or neutralize Julian Assange and his collaborators, wherever they are?”

“Why isn’t Julian Assange dead?” writes the prominent US pundit Jonah Goldberg.

“The CIA should have already killed Julian Assange,” says John Hawkins on the Right Wing News site.

Sarah Palin, a likely presidential candidate, compares Assange to an Al Qaeda leader; Rick Santorum, former Pennsylvania senator and potential presidential contender, accuses Assange of “terrorism”.

And so on and so forth

[Mad_Aussie]

Funnily enough, Social Media is working!!1

After this group was set up... http://www.facebook.com/pages/Investigate-Tom-Flanagan-for-inciting-murder-against-Julian-Assange/178664602160629?v=wall

This came out...
http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Canada/20101206/wikileaks-flanagan-assassination-101206/

[duste]

Agreed, very good read. America has no one to blame but themselves imo.

After reading another article that was linked from that article, I'm keen to read up on the dealings of the Bank of America - 5GB of data from the executive's hard drive...

[Mad_Aussie]

The ABC is really getting behind this...


The global war on WikiLeaks and the demonisation of Julian Assange is troubling because governments are playing so fast and loose with accusations of criminal wrongdoing.

In so doing, governments have failed to make sense of gaps in the law and the need for law reform to adequately protect sensitive information.

As I have written elsewhere, it is hard to see how Julian Assange or WikiLeaks has broken any Australian law. It is even doubtful whether United States laws have been broken, although at best there may be an action for breach of copyright in US government documents.

While it is a crime for US government employees to unlawfully disclose confidential information, there would only be a case against WikiLeaks if it had induced or solicited another person to leak material. That might distinguish the conduct of WikiLeaks from other media (from the New York Times to the BBC) that have simply republished documents.

So far, however, the US has not provided any evidence of such conduct. Even then, it might be necessary to consider whether it was legitimate media reporting in the public interest. Different countries take different legal approaches to that issue.

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/41874.html

[DRKWRX]

Arrested/

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-arrested-in-uk-15023657.html

[Mad_Aussie]

Hopefully our government steps up to the mark now. Otherwise, keep an ear out for the key...

[urabus]

Just think about how other governments would of dealt with this guy.

The russians would of poisoned him just like every other journalist they dont like.

The chinese would of arrested him for spying and locked him up for the rest of his life without a trial.

The north koreans would just shoot him on the spot.

The way that these charges have been brought is a load of shit anyways. They were dropped by the prosecutor and then some swedish politician fired up and here we go again. No doubt they will be able to get something to stick.

Brendon

[duste]

Our government is so fucking whipped by the US I doubt they'll do anything, a single call from the US telling the ranga not to do something and that's all it takes.

[KyeBidz]

Interesting Times ahead.

Assange being in jail isnt going to stop fuck all, cables will still get released.
shit is going to get real

[peter_piper]

Info pirates seek an alternative internet




After dumping thousands of secret US diplomatic cables in the public domain last week, WikiLeaks (http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19325865.500-how-to-leak-a-secret-and-not-get-caught.html) ended up losing its web hosting company – twice – and its wikileaks.org web domain to boot as providers got cold feet about its content. But a plan being hatched by fellow travellers in the file-sharing community may shield the controversial data dumper from such takedowns in future.

Whole article found here: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19816-info-pirates-seek-an-alternative-internet.html



http://www.harpers.org/media/image/blogs/misc/wanted.jpg

[batmat]

slap

[shifted]

In custody currently... interesting what will unfold. If anything happens to him, surely there would be immense public pressure to get the BS charges dropped.

[peter_piper]

IF they actually gave a fuck about public opinion in the first place, he wouldn't be in a world of shit.

[Dagon]

^^ That. The only possible reason the government would ever care about this would be during election time, in which they'd promise to get him safe, but then do fuck all after the election is over.

[Fukushima]

95% of people in an ABC poll this morning thought he was being unfairly treated

Good to hear Kevin say he was still entitled to Australian assistance and a fair treatment by the legal system despite what all the other pollies said and despite Kevin having a bit of egg on his face from the leaks.

[shifted]

Didn't Gillard publicly declare Assange committed a crime but didn't pinpoint which?

She is a faceless clown.

[AGIT8D]

Is there a copy of all the leaks/cables? so far??

[shifted]

Is there a copy of all the leaks/cables? so far??

There is multiple files around with different staff. The file available off of the "pirate bay" is just one file. So it contains a % of cables/documents contained by WikiLeaks.

All are heavily encrypted.

If Assange or any member of staff go down - they are to be extracted and information spread.

My understanding anyway. So none of the other files have become available yet.

Over 750 mirror sites have sprung from my understanding. They will have a hard time putting him away, unless he ends up like most other people not afraid to speak up - shot.

[Brockas]

When I look on wikileaks.ch it appears that the /cablegate page is just a large bit of encrypted text.

Any idea what the go is here?

[Mad_Aussie]

Over 750 mirror sites have sprung from my understanding. They will have a hard time putting him away, unless he ends up like most other people not afraid to speak up - shot.

*If* someone were to shoot him, it would be far worse for the governments than if they had just left him alone. The momentum that this issue is gaining is massive - there would be riots.

And Brockas - PEBKAC works for me

[Slip_]

Assange... my nigga.

[AGIT8D]

I thought WikiLeaks had already leaked a portion of it's documents and info over time though.. I'm wondering if there is a list compiled of all this info and documentation so I can see just how monumental the info was.

[stumps.]

I thought WikiLeaks had already leaked a portion of it's documents and info over time though.. I'm wondering if there is a list compiled of all this info and documentation so I can see just how monumental the info was.

Check out the website mate, you can search by country, you can search by classification level. Its pretty cool.

[1JZVL]

I don't really know what's going on exactly....but this guy is responsible for leaking 'true' (?) but bad information to everybody...now he's in trouble?

pingpingpingpings!

all sounds so srs...makes me scared to even go to the wikileaks website :|

[shifted]

Dan - It has leaked a portion of the documents, just not ALL of them that they have just gotten their hands on. Hence why multiple "insurance files" exist. The threat was that if Assange or any member of staff go down, it will ALL be leaked onto the net.

I am assuming that everything they get their hands on they don't just chuck up. But the stuff they have at the moment they probably haven't even looked through completely yet.

Mad_Aussie - momentum is huge yes, but doesn't stop things like that from happening.

End of the day, people are picking up speed and waking up, more documentaries are being pushed throwing theories in the air about how we exist, what really goes on, what the next steps are. More information is becoming available bringing forward an age of enlightenment. More people are consciously aware of what is around them... it is interesting times ahead...

[TJ]

Didn't Gillard publicly declare Assange committed a crime but didn't pinpoint which?

She is a faceless clown.

Any chance to bag labor eh?

This is way bigger than our government.

[Halle Terry]

Assange... my nigga.

My nigga.


I fucking love this, I find it so intriguing and interesting. I really hope Assange gets fair trial as what he's doing is monumental.

History is in the making.

[Mad_Aussie]

http://www.news.com.au/world/kevin-rudd-john-howard-speak-out-over-wikileaks-julian-assange/story-e6frfkyi-1225967838974

Rudd and Howard stepping up to the plate... Come on Julia!

[duste]

The number of mirrors broke through the 1000 mark this morning.

I'd host it myself if (mt) MediaTemple weren't anal about the content on their servers and if I wasn't paying through the nose for it. The amount of people whom I've spoken to about this that genuinely believe he is a rapist is astounding... Smear tactics seem to be working to an extent.

[Bomber]

*If* someone were to shoot him, it would be far worse for the governments than if they had just left him alone. The momentum that this issue is gaining is massive - there would be riots.

They wouldn't be so brazen about it. My money would be that a special chartered jet that was hired to carry him to the USA after charges were dropped in Sweden was in a mysterious crash resulting from miscalculated fuel figures for the journey home. No bodies recoverable....

[Crispymk2]

http://www.harpers.org/media/image/blogs/misc/wanted.jpg


Printed out a bunch of these and going to throw them up in the city

[Mad_Aussie]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thecutline/20101206/ts_yblog_thecutline/some-news-outlets-stop-dubbing-wikileaks-a-whistleblower

Oh. My. God. The mainstream media are actually, and intentionally, pushing the truth on this one...
The term "whistle-blower" is usually used to describe someone within, say, a corporation or government agency who risks a career to speak out against corruption or fraud. It may just seem like a semantic issue, but how the media describe WikiLeaks can affect public perceptions. A whistle-blower is probably viewed positively, as an individual speaking out against wrongdoing.

The Cutline has described WikiLeaks as an "online whistle-blower" in some previous posts. But perhaps if anyone's going to be described as a whistle-blower, it would more accurately be Bradley Manning, the imprisoned Army private believed to have leaked documents to WikiLeaks, because he allegedly committed the action while in the military.

And Bolivia's Vice-President mirrors Wikileaks Cablegate! http://wikileaks.vicepresidencia.gob.bo/

[muniom]

The insurance file is out there, from reading online, even with a large P2P brute-force cracking network, the encryption would take years and years to crack. The thing is, like anything, the file WILL be cracked eventually and what is inside will be available to everyone.

This leads me to believe Assange plans to release the password regardless, so what is in the file? Is it a decoy? Or does it include documentation about the GFC and US bailouts that will expose and crumble the US for good?

I've even read the true conspiracy theorists stating that this is all a hoax similar to 911, giving big brother reason to censor & control the internet much like how 911 was used to remove civil liberties... Of course I think that is going a bit far, but the can of worms is definitely open!

[[Jacek]]

I've even read the true conspiracy theorists stating that this is all a hoax similar to 911, giving big brother reason to censor & control the internet


Has all the makings of it doesnt it!

[Mad_Aussie]

It sure does, however this has all happened before in the past.

http://www.ellsberg.net/archive/public-accuracy-press-release

Not to mention William Cooper getting knocked off for predicting the 9/11 attacks months before they happened...

[Dagon]

This thread is gonna be great when you guys read about the "alleged" cables on UFO sightings [/trollface]

[Mad_Aussie]

Looking forward to those, but to be honest I'm really keen to hear about the Bilderberg Group... That group is becoming exceedingly relevant at the moment.

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Speech to the EU parliament

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[Slip_]

I've even read the true conspiracy theorists stating that this is all a hoax similar to 911, giving big brother reason to censor & control the internet much like how 911 was used to remove civil liberties... Of course I think that is going a bit far, but the can of worms is definitely open!

I trust your not talking about ATS in reference to true conspiracy theorists? :)

[billk]

Our government is a pingpingpingping

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/wikileaks-is-illegal-says-government/story-e6frfku0-1225968425018

[sami_]

nothing exciting on the cables available on piratebay.. or did i miss something?

[Mad_Aussie]

The main one on the pirate bay is the full encrypted file - and of course it's going to be boring, as they haven't distributed the key for it yet.

I'm under the impression that the cables released so far are being leaked in a way to try and sure up it's credibility / factuality (if that's even a word). Once people know that these are legitimate, they'll start leaking the really damaging stuff.

[Slip_]

Like 911.

[Mad_Aussie]

Like 911.

Fuck I hope so. The Yanks must know whats in these cables, and know they need to nip it in the bud. But they also obviously know it's too late. Only explanation for the way they're reacting to it.

Our generation might just be the one to see the collapse of the United States...

[HIKARI]

and UFO

[Dagon]

Our government is a pingpingpingping

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/wikileaks-is-illegal-says-government/story-e6frfku0-1225968425018That news.com.au article is a little bit bullshit. It's cherry-picking quotes from various people. Most of the quotes are from people saying "well, if they were leaked in an illegal manner, then that probably makes the act of leaking a criminal act, yes.

All vague handwaving. They got nothin'.

[Slip_]

Our generation might just be the one to see the collapse of the United States...

+1


They got nothin'.

+1

[Joe]

I'm under the impression that the cables released so far are being leaked in a way to try and sure up it's credibility / factuality (if that's even a word). Once people know that these are legitimate, they'll start leaking the really damaging stuff.

This.

It's only "Secret", "Confidential" and "Unclassified" cables currently... they are the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th tiers of the US Classified Information system.

The 1st Tier, Top Secret, have not been leaked yet.

[Brockas]

Our generation might just be the one to see the collapse of the United States...
We pretty much already have.

Thanks to the American need for cash, China now owns a large portion of the USA.


Better start practising my Mandarin.

[Mad_Aussie]

Better start practising my Mandarin.

Fuck that, invest in land out in the middle of nowhere and find yourself an engineer that specialises in bunkers.

http://www.alternativeculture.com/images/this-will-not-end-well-cat.jpg

[mitchy]

ok... what IS a cable? (apart from the obvious)

[AGIT8D]

What do you think the implications will be for the USA once all the documentation is leaked, especially the 911 info? Obviously you guys are very sceptical about the truthful scenario of the circumstances that lead to those events, would you suggest the USA might be the victim OF attacks once all the details are aired?

I know I'm asking for speculative opinion only, but I am curious..

[Joe]

I hope it reveals that the USA did have a part in the 9/11 attacks.. and they blew up WTC Building 7 themselves.

[R3N]

I hope it has a photo of George Dubya and Osama smoking a bong together

[MISS 13B]

Our generation might just be the one to see the collapse of the United States...
I really do hope so.
The higher you fly, the harder you fall and boy have they been flying high for too long.

[AGIT8D]

I really do hope so.
The higher you fly, the harder you fall and boy have they been flying high for too long.

But is it a case of the USA being the lesser of the evils? Time will tell!

[Mad_Aussie]

But is it a case of the USA being the lesser of the evils? Time will tell!

It's not the US as such that's evil, it's the people in the shadows that are.

Seriously, read up on the Bildergerg group. Some very shadey goings on there.

[Slip_]

I hope it reveals that the USA did have a part in the 9/11 attacks.. and they blew up WTC Building 7 themselves.

Amen sister


I hope it has a photo of George Dubya and Osama smoking a bong together

LOL

[Tocchi]

i hope the US doesnt get too fucked up... last thing i want is my international freight from the US being captured by militants :P

[Mad_Aussie]

i hope the US doesnt get too fucked up... last thing i want is my international freight from the US being captured by militants :P

LOL they can soup-up their shitter hilux gunwagons

http://bilderberg2010.com/about-bilderberg-2010/

edit: And fuck you "get to a million people before (bullshit)" groups... Facebook's WikiLeaks group has 1,120,694 members and counting! Fourth largest group on Facebook at the moment

And in the 30 seconds it took me to post that, the number is at 1,120,883

[muniom]

What if wikileaks exposes the true state of the american and global financial systems? Including dodgey dealings to bail out their entire economy and intentions behind the Amero?

If the public lost faith in their dollar and stock markets... What will happen to world financial systems, interest and debt?

[Mad_Aussie]

What if wikileaks exposes the true state of the american and global financial systems? Including dodgey dealings to bail out their entire economy and intentions behind the Amero?

If the public lost faith in their dollar and stock markets... What will happen to world financial systems, interest and debt?

http://www.mtholyoke.edu/org/chinese/potentialpic/chinese%20new%20year.jpg

[Mad_Aussie]

Oh snap

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/12/09/3088550.htm

[Crispymk2]

I'm playing a lot of Fallout as training for the coming apocalypse.

[AGIT8D]

I'm playing a lot of Fallout as training for the coming apocalypse.

Fuck I better not tell my mate that, he is sure the Zombie's are coming hahaha.

[duste]

Oh snap

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/12/09/3088550.htm

Haha yeah, and following this up the acting Prime Minister whatshisface is claiming that the cables leaked on Wikileaks are false/lies and this never happened.

[Stealthed]

I'm playing a lot of Fallout as training for the coming apocalypse.

Lol, Better start saving bottlecaps..

[Mad_Aussie]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs953.snc4/74644_466776326378_696921378_5847154_3734412_n.jpg

[Fukushima]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/12/09/3089510.htm

if the ranger keeps carrying on like a pork chop this could bring down our government

and that might even be a good thing

[Logie]

2012 doomsday is coming.

A new age is almost upon us!

[duste]

Woah, 2012 and Bilderberg Group... Coincidence?

[DrKarl]

New World Order on its way.

This thing has only just begun, i wonder when it ends the state of international relations.

[peter_piper]

http://wikileaks.ch/mirrors.html

Wikileaks is currently under heavy attack.
In order to make it impossible to ever fully remove Wikileaks from the Internet, you will find below a list of mirrors of Wikileaks website and CableGate pages.
If you want to add your mirror to the list, see our Mass Mirroring Wikileaks (http://wikileaks.ch/mass-mirror.html) page
Mirror List

Wikileaks is currently mirrored on 1368 sites (updated 2010-12-09 09:39 GMT)

[mr_rotary]

Two days in the life of Westminster Magistrates' Court:


Tuesday, 7th December 2010

Julian Assange
Age: 39
Arrested on a Swedish extradition warrant
Alleged offence: Rape
Deemed a 'flight risk' and remanded in custody until 14th December

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/07/julian-assange-denied-bail

Wednesday, 8th December 2010

Shrien Dewani
Age: 30
Arrested on a South African extradition warrant
Alleged offence: Murder
£250,000 bail granted

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/08/shrien-dewani-granted-bail

[Sammish]

Shrien Dewani didn't technically murder his wife he paid for her to be killed, surely he isnt a flight ri....oh wait....never mind

[SimonR32]

I like how Assange has not done anything wrong...

If a cop stole a bag of pills from a evidence locker, gave them to you... Then you gave them out to the general public!

You are not in the wrong at all?!?

[Sammish]

depends what kind of pills in that scenario

[mr_rotary]

And what country you do it in.

[Mad_Aussie]

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[Fujiwara13]

http://files.hl2forums.com/uploads/1e55b2e_JS_LOIC_v0_1.htm

Get on it pingpingpingpings

The address for the list of targets isn't working?

[duste]

Entire thing won't work for me, might be Tor playing up though?

[Crispymk2]

Some stuff up here:

http://www.collateralmurder.com/

[SircatmaN]

Has anyone questioned how a military PRIVATE managed to somehow get onto the US governments main network and get all of there most guarded secrets? Especially while listening to lady gaga, wouldn't be able to fucking concentrate...

[duste]

Congressman Ron Paul questions it in that speech. As he said, it's not Assange that everyone should be pissed at; it's this Private and the US government/army in general.

EDIT: And not necessarily the Private either; war crimes are war crimes, no matter which country committed them.

[peter_piper]

I fucking LOVE Ron Paul. After Assange's "death," i'm sure Ron Paul will somehow "disappear" too.

[Tre-Cool]

anyone else here a fan of the Alex Jones radio in the us?

you can listen to it from www.infowar.com

this guy know his shit to what the governments been doing and trying to do over the past 15 years or so

[mehow2g]

Aware me about the talk about 2012

[Fujiwara13]

Aware me about the talk about 2012

EH!?

[RICEY]

He's not aware that the world ends in 2012....

[shifted]

Too many theories about 2012...

Alex Jones is good, a fair few documentaries coming out yearly from all angles, inlcuding his. There is some good stuff out there for those willing to have a look around. :)

Apparently "Openleaks" will be started on Monday - either a counter/propaganda machine to discredit wikileaks, or another wikileaks in general.

[duste]

Openleaks is fucking ridiculous. It's a bunch of 'loyalists' from Wikileaks who were annoyed at Assange being at the forefront of everything.

Fuck guys, he's the founder, and he's also saving your asses by keeping your names private. The entire start-up of Openleaks just tells me that there's a bunch of losers wanting recognition, wanting to have their name known. I say sit the fuck down and just release the documents (read: do your job) and then the owner/founder of the organisation do the talking.

[muniom]

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[Halle Terry]

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FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU AMERICANS

[Tre-Cool]

lol fox news. would u expect any less.

[1JZVL]

cyber terrorist...should be killed!?

hahaha. wow.

Don't these idiots, those who hate wikileaks etc, understand what they're doing? They seem to think - if somebody, America etc, are doing some "bad things" and nobody knows about it...it's all good and okay? They clearly think this...

*sigh* the American media can go eat a dick and to that host, omg....what a bitch!

[MISS 13B]

LOL

"Our country is stronger that one guy with one website. We should never be afraid of one guy who popped down $35 and bought a web address."

What.A.Fucking.Idiot

And the stupid newsreader slut has no idea whatsoever!!
Yeah...the leaks consist of documents making fun of foreign leaders as Hitler.

[Mad_Aussie]

American media makes me rage so hard... But what gets me with fox is that they play countless pro-government shit, and pander to all their propaganda, and then turn around and do a story like this:

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As far as Openleaks goes, I can't believe it. I can't help but feel that they've been bought out by the US and are starting a disinformation drive.

[Dagon]

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/12/10/assange_indictment_soon/

“We have a very serious, active, ongoing investigation that is criminal in nature *,” ABC News quoted him as saying. “I authorized just last week a number of things to be done so that we can hopefully get to the bottom of this and hold people accountable, as they should be.”BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH THE IRONY
*SECOND SET OF ROFL's JUST FOR THAT COMMENT

[Mad_Aussie]

"Where'd all the bees go"?

http://newsblaze.com/pix/2008/0615/pix/the-happening12.jpg

http://www.fastcompany.com/1708896/wiki-bee-leaks-epa-document-reveals-agency-knowingly-allowed-use-of-bee-toxic-pesticide

Bam.

[Tocchi]

LOL

"Our country is stronger that one guy with one website. We should never be afraid of one guy who popped down $35 and bought a web address."

What.A.Fucking.Idiot

And the stupid newsreader slut has no idea whatsoever!!
Yeah...the leaks consist of documents making fun of foreign leaders as Hitler.


the thing is, they know the US population will believe what they say, so thats why they are doing it

[SimonR32]

"Where'd all the bees go"?

http://newsblaze.com/pix/2008/0615/pix/the-happening12.jpg

http://www.fastcompany.com/1708896/wiki-bee-leaks-epa-document-reveals-agency-knowingly-allowed-use-of-bee-toxic-pesticide

Bam.

LOL!

Of course a pesticide kills bees. A bee is a insect, pesticides are made to kill insects...

Ban every pesticide in the world because they can kill bees!

[Mad_Aussie]

Simon, that's not the case at all. We use pesticides here that only target certain critters when sprayed over crops, the Americans were warned against using a particular chemical and they did it anyway.

[SimonR32]

You are talking about selective pesticides, show me one that is used that doesn't kill bees...

There is a bee application warning on pretty much every pesticide developed and is ignored by pretty much every government body.

By the way feel free to argue with me about this :)

[mitchy]

simon knows dick all about bees...

[peter_piper]

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I hate Americans. I hate them.

[R3N]

pesticides kills pests

insecticides kills insects

[DrKarl]

Fuuuuuuu. bitch needs one in the face.

[urabus]

I would like to know what backroom manouvres that bush / blair / howard et al are doing to keep this kid quiet if he has anything about this war on terror. At least none of them are in power anymore.

Brendon

[Dagon]

What? He's released a lots on 'the war on terror'.
His last lot of releases was regarding the killing of civilians.

[muniom]

http://i.imgur.com/LJNdB.png

[muniom]

I'd like to think anyone who did anything of that nature was running everything through a proxy...

[duste]

So...these people are being targeted for DDoS'ing, yet governments and other agencies themselves were DDoS'ing Wikileaks' original website?

Hypo-fucking-critical or what.

[Fujiwara13]

Well fuck....

[Stealthed]

http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv220/Stealthed33/1292330637553.jpg

[Dagon]

Yay! He's been released on bail!
Onoes, Sweden said "aw hell no fool" and is trying to extricate him.
AU$680,000* bail that they have to come up with in six* days. IN CASH. With their accounts frozen.

* - Figures may be inaccurrate. Heard this on the radio. Internet is telling me random other figures.

[shifted]

So Government realises people know what is going on, sets up Openleaks to try and discredit Wikileaks to steer people away... Assange is still in jail.. and we are in no different position than we were a couple weeks ago?

[Mad_Aussie]

Big disinformation drive happening at the moment - should see the astroturfing trolls on facebook & twitter at the moment... so.. hard.. not.. to.. feed.. them..

[shifted]

Well that is what usually happens when the public speak out too much, don't you think?

Haven't been on facebook for a while though - what is happening there?

[Mad_Aussie]

There's one particular troll by the name of 'Gary Lee'... Repeatedly posting Pro-Palin links and disinformative pro-israel / anti-wikileaks links. Was annoying at first, but now the collective is turning on him he's gone to sending people on there (mainly chicks) abusive private messages.

Personally I'm over those sort of antics, was funny ripping in to him yesterday, but started my day today by reporting and blocking him. Clean news feed is a good news feed.

[shifted]

Yeah right, I wonder who they pay ridiculous salaries to, to do that type of work.

I wonder how long until people wake up and collectively the human race evolves instead of continuing down its de-evolutionary cycle as it is at the moment.

[Mad_Aussie]

These people get paid per post, usually around 50c/post. A lot of the time they are based in places like Chine etc, set up with fake profiles and friends and shit.

Easy enough to starve them to death by blocking them.

[Ash-u-lee]

This whole debacle (along with every other stupid thing the government has going on) makes me want to grab a shotgun and start shooting pingpingpingpings.

Cue anarchy.

[coFF33]

This whole debacle (along with every other stupid thing the government has going on) makes me want to grab a shotgun and start shooting ex-american government officials
Cue anarchy.


agreed

[Mad_Aussie]

I don't agree, the whole concept behind wikileaks is change through non-violence.

[SimonR32]

I don't agree, the whole concept behind wikileaks is change through non-violence.

That's a little naive isn't it...

Tell me something that has changed in history without violence?

[Mad_Aussie]

Um, well recently a shift from a Liberal government to a Labour government for instance? It's the whole idea behind democracy.

I would call yelling about killing people naive.

[yeahlow34]

I wonder how long until people wake up and collectively the human race evolves instead of continuing down its de-evolutionary cycle as it is at the moment.

My god that's utter fucking rubbish.

Doctors and scientists are making breakthroughs on a day-to-day basis, saving lives. People making a difference to 3rd world countries. But because not everyone is holding hands and circle jerking, we're on a de-evolutionary cycle? Get fucked. What exactly have you contributed?

Fuck off. You sound like a greeny.

[SimonR32]

Um, well recently a shift from a Liberal government to a Labour government for instance? It's the whole idea behind democracy.

I would call yelling about killing people naive.

We went from Labour to Labour... LOLs

Government vs people almost always ends in violence!

[Ash-u-lee]

Definately not naive. In many ways, anger is power, unstable/unpredictbale power, but power nontheless. How did this country become colonised? pingpingpingpings came in, killed natives, made them slaves and built their fucking forts = Change

Assange is in jail, their bank accounts have been frozen and over all, a few secret documents hidden via encryption isnt going to change anything, the violence it causes after will though. His views, of change through non violence is honourable but misguided, its just the world we live in. Its the violence that these indiscretions cause that will be the foot note of change.

Im not saying its right, but since when has a group of activists standing around protesting peacefully ever changed shit?

The government (in any country) holds the power, and people that hold power dont just change their ways because someone says pretty please.

[1JZVL]

Erm.

Even "The All Mighty" Julian Assange has been quoted that sometimes war is needed.....

[AGIT8D]

started my day today by reporting and blocking him. Clean news feed is a good news feed.

Hahahaha I bet the USA wish it was that easy to filter Assange.

[Mad_Aussie]

Definately not naive. In many ways, anger is power, unstable/unpredictbale power, but power nontheless. How did this country become colonised? pingpingpingpings came in, killed natives, made them slaves and built their fucking forts = Change


So much for learning from past mistakes.
Surely you can't seriously be sitting there with the thought 'war worked in the past, so it'll work again'... The world doesn't need war to change things. It just ends up happening because there's too many dumb fucks out there with the notion of 'words won't work, so bombs will'.

Fucking petty imo. Doesn't matter if Assange said sometimes was is needed - I don't think that's right at all.

[1JZVL]

So much for learning from past mistakes.
Surely you can't seriously be sitting there with the thought 'war worked in the past, so it'll work again'... The world doesn't need war to change things. It just ends up happening because there's too many dumb fucks out there with the notion of 'words won't work, so bombs will'.

Fucking petty imo. Doesn't matter if Assange said sometimes was is needed - I don't think that's right at all.

I'm pretty sure before WW2, people were thinking the same thing, or along the lines of "lets talk this over".....for some reason I doubt it would've worked? Like NAZI Germany would've given a shit what anybody had to say.

I do not agree with the "wars" going on at the moment though.

[Ash-u-lee]

Surely you can't seriously be sitting there with the thought 'war worked in the past, so it'll work again'... The world doesn't need war to change things. It just ends up happening because there's too many dumb fucks out there with the notion of 'words won't work, so bombs will'.

Ahem, if you read my entire my post i clearly said it wasnt right. The world does not need anymore violence/wars, HOWEVER!!! because of said dumb fucks, violence is the only way things do get change. And you're a pretty naive person if you think otherwise. Go talk to the american government or even our own for that matter and you'll get told to politely fuck off, much like that fellow that is questioning the debacle with the radar detectors.

No-one likes wars/violence and its not the most ideal way to solve anything. But in current circumstances, its either, sit down and shut the fuck up or fight for what your rights as a human being.

Go take you peaceful protest and see where that gets you. Assange has opened a box of fireworks, this whole drama is going to blow up to greater proportions eventually.

[Mad_Aussie]

Go take you peaceful protest and see where that gets you.

In 2005, 1.2 million people marched on Beirut and helped end the Syrian military presence in Lebanon. Peaceful protest works at times. If you have enough people pushing for something, it will happen.

[SimonR32]

In 2005, 1.2 million people marched on Beirut and helped end the Syrian military presence in Lebanon. Peaceful protest works at times. If you have enough people pushing for something, it will happen.

AFTER SOMEONE WAS ASSASSINATED!

[Mad_Aussie]

Was the assassination part of the protest? Errr, no?
You're really quick to try and shoot down anything that I say, and take it right out of context as you do.

My point is that promoting violent protests isn't helpful with what's happening at the moment. The more people spout about violence, the more reason the government has to condemn it.

Far out.

[Ash-u-lee]

In 2005, 1.2 million people marched on Beirut and helped end the Syrian military presence in Lebanon. Peaceful protest works at times. If you have enough people pushing for something, it will happen.

At times, in certain situations. Call me naive but i think that the only way this will end with change is if change is forced upon them. By the american governments action regarding this problem, they must be hiding some juicy stuff, either that or they are just proud egotistical pricks, my bet is on both.

Sometimes, current heirarchys need to be dismantled. They're hiding things for a reason, and if theyve gone to these lengths to keep them hidden, id bet my life that they will go 10x further to stop them from being publically released or to punish those that were responsible for it. They have both the power and money to reign hell.

I just dont see this ending with a peaceful protest. Im not condoning acts of violence, if it can be solved peacefully then great! Besides, i think the american population (especially their government) needs a good fisting anyway, they're whole country is built upon lies, deceit and "sorry thats classified".

[YOUR MATE]

John Lennon is dead, man!

[SimonR32]

Was the assassination part of the protest? Errr, no?
You're really quick to try and shoot down anything that I say, and take it right out of context as you do.

My point is that promoting violent protests isn't helpful with what's happening at the moment. The more people spout about violence, the more reason the government has to condemn it.

Far out.

The assassination was the reason for the protest!!!

You say pretty much everything out of context, I put in back into context and reality...

[MISS 13B]

Go take you peaceful protest and see where that gets you.

1963 – The March on Washington.

A large political rally in support of civil and economic rights for African Americans that took place in Washington, D.C. This was the scene of Martin Luther King Jr’s historic "I Have a Dream" speech advocating racial tolerance.
Estimates of the number of participants varied from 200,000 to 300,000 people.
The march is widely credited with helping to pass the Civil Rights Act and the National Voting Rights Act.


2004 – 2005 – The Orange Revolution.

Ukrainians responded to corruption and electoral fraud in the second round of the 2004 presidential elections with massive protests. Thousands of hardcore activists occupied the center of Kiev, where they set up residence in tents and organized sit-ins, strikes, and various forms of non-violent protest to demand a revote in the run-off between opposition candidate Viktor Yushchenko and the ordained successor of outgoing President Kuchma, Viktor Yanukovych.
International reports of fraud and widespread public perception of intimidation and abuse by the authorities in favor of the government's candidate resulted in an enormous outpouring of support for Yushchenko and democratic change. Hundreds of thousands of citizens filled the capital, with the number of demonstrators reaching as many as 1 million on November 27, 2004. Mass strikes and rallies took place around the country. As a result of the protests the election results were voided and a revote was ordered by the Ukraine Supreme Court at the end of December. Yushchenko won 52% of the vote in the new election to become the third president of the Ukraine.



Oh...and a little something called the Fall of the Berlin Wall.

[Mad_Aussie]

Mate, horrible things happen, and then people protest. Did those protesters become violent? From memory they didn't. Which is my point.

Thank you Miss_13b

[yeahlow34]

...

Read my mind!

[MISS 13B]

I totally agree with your sentiments on these issues Mad_Aussie.

The attitude that "war is the only way to get things done" has led to the fucked up state that so many countries are in now.
War is the only answer? Tell that to the desperately crippled families of war-torn African nations.

[Ash-u-lee]

Violence isnt convenient for everyone. The effects of peaceful protest are evident. Not all conflict can be solved with peaceful protest though. Im guessing the reason why these documents are confidential in the first place is because they will cause a rebellion, peaceful or not.

No-one is saying that violence fixes anything, but it brings change and change does not necessarily mean a solution. If you're dealing with an authoritive figure that will resort to violent measures, then i dont think a peaceful protest will suffice. At best, they'll say sorry, admit wrong doing, change government.
But you can't ignore that the reason that many government structures are closely built around the same principles is because that those principles over rule any other when it comes to leadership. When it comes to the stage that this whole thing blows over (and it will) we'll all go back to being everyday citizens while the american government continues doing what its always done, regardless of who is in office.

[TJ]

Need another million man march - niggas bne wilding son!

[1JZVL]

Maybe someone should've went on a riot through Germany when Hitler was in power..........

And if you think talking it over with that guy (or his mates) would've worked, you're a f*cking idiot.

[shifted]

My god that's utter fucking rubbish.

Doctors and scientists are making breakthroughs on a day-to-day basis, saving lives. People making a difference to 3rd world countries. But because not everyone is holding hands and circle jerking, we're on a de-evolutionary cycle? Get fucked. What exactly have you contributed?

Fuck off. You sound like a greeny.

Oh right, breakthroughs that in no way are inhibited by drug companies who need to take their share in profits? We SHOULD be a lot further ahead by this day and age than we currently are.

You can't change a 3rd world country no matter how much money or people you send there unless you get rid of the people blocking the good stuff from happening, but too many people want to line their pockets.

Go on all you want about breakthroughs, the only one I am interested in, is the breakthrough and subsequent shift in human consciousness.

What am I contributing? I don't know yet. But I am hoping to find something soon. You?

Wars go nowhere, and will continue to go nowhere the way they are run currently. Unfortunately too many governments, if not all, are run by faceless leaders who use the presidents/premiers as puppets. There are wars though, worth fighting, that do go somewhere, but they are hard to come by. Most are only run on the view of sustaining them = more profits.

[yeahlow34]

We should be ALOT further along, why exactly? Compared to what?

Keep seeking perfection mate, because it's never going to happen. Delusional.

[shifted]

We should be ALOT further along, why exactly? Compared to what?

Keep seeking perfection mate, because it's never going to happen. Delusional.

When you keep thinking like that, humanity will definitely get nowhere.

You have had countless inventors, among others over time who have had their work seized, funding stopped, or work destroyed - all to suit agendas as was needed. You can't go out there and create something that benefits people, the corporations out there won't hear of it.

Shit, what happened to the two Aussie guys in Queensland who created a magnetic motor that could run endlessly and power a house all day every day no problems - and it would have costed you just $5,000 to buy one?

The guy that created an engine that ran on water, got funding for further studies, yet died the next day "curiously" of food poisoning?

You can't do anything out there unless people begin to think differently. Shit, Toyota have 500 Rav4 EVs produced in 1997 I think, electric cars, ran up around 160miles per charge (again, from memory). Guess who owns the rights now? Chevron.

You say I am delusional, grow up.

[TJ]

I contribute by dropping d , keeps my conscious fairly clear

[Mad_Aussie]

Drop D, Save a Tree?

[YOUR MATE]

COKE AND PEPSI ARE THE SAME THING! WAKE UP PEOPLE!

[Mad_Aussie]

Here's some change that we need

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/world/illicit-drugs-should-be-legalised-says-former-uk-defense-secretary-ainsworth/story-e6frfkui-1225972304739

[yeahlow34]

grow up.

Lol. Ok buddy.

Truth hurts.

[Bomber]

Media are out to destroy Julian Assange - communist, anti-democratic etc etc. All political spin, all bullshit.

When are the documents relating to alien contact going to be released?

[Miami]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/fairfax-publishes-wikileaks-cables/story-fn59niix-1225971824431

[Fujiwara13]

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/wikileaks.png

I'll just leave that there...

[Slip_]

Nigga's Free... albeit chained

Haters can sukkadick.

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http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/wikileaks-cleared-of-breaking-australian-law/story-e6frfku0-1225972732042

[Mad_Aussie]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/abcnews24/ !!!! Gillard back peddling like a legend!

http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_apr2007/BackPeddlingViolinist.jpg

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Hopefully someone tubes that... keen to see even more backpedal!

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Assume this is pretty much it? :)

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/i-am-not-a-fan-of-wikileaks-says-australias-prime-minister-julia-gillard/story-e6frfku0-1225972774385

Aint even Mad?

Gillard stated Assanges actions, were illegal. When asked to clarify under what law could he be prosecuted, you backpedelled... stating the foundation act was illegal.

Immediately condemned him publicly, advising there would be no consular assistance and that in fact, australia would be assisting in his persecution. Then the nations pro-wikileaks academics wrote you a letter... and you backpedalled again... in the above link stating... obviously, he will be given consular assistance.

Coming from a ex-union lawyer... Pretty Okay.

[Mad_Aussie]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/julia-gillard-coveted-prime-ministership-a-year-before-coup-wikileaks/story-e6frf7kx-1225972531824

there ya go!

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c43/Mad_Aussie/gillard.jpg

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Fuck I hate Gillard.