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Yakky Bear
01-03-2011, 12:08 AM
Any one use them are they as good as what they make out to be in the video's?
or would one be better off sticking to a bel xr or whistler type deal?

Tocchi
01-03-2011, 12:43 AM
i have one Jase, usually 300m+ for fwd facing new cameras.

VRX
01-03-2011, 01:04 AM
Yer there as good as the video's make out.I've had my V1 since 07 and i couldn't imagine driving without it.The later model Bel Sti and Redline are up there as well but seeing as the V1 has served me so well i'd recommend the V1.Watch a few a cannonball youtube videos that give an in cabin view and see what detector they have hanging from the windscreen... you can't get a better recommendation than that.

Keep in mind though unlike the Sti and redline the V1 is not undetectable to radar detector detectors which is not an issue at the moment however if they do ban them and the police start using RDD's you'll be up for the fine and demerit point loss.

colt75
01-03-2011, 01:14 AM
also keen on info!
been eyeing off the whistler pro 78 or v1.

does everyone hide them when they park up to avoid theft? or are those days long gone (doubt it)

Sfidz
01-03-2011, 01:28 AM
also keen on info!
been eyeing off the whistler pro 78 or v1.

does everyone hide them when they park up to avoid theft? or are those days long gone (doubt it)

unless dard's have stopped stealing shit all of a sudden I would hide it in dodgy area's unless it is well concealed in the cabin, Ie top of windscreen.

Logie
01-03-2011, 01:55 AM
Organise group buy Jason!

Mistikal
01-03-2011, 02:18 AM
does everyone hide them when they park up to avoid theft? or are those days long gone (doubt it)

Old boy had an old Bel Vector 900-series, worked great even thou people said it was crap ... had it for years, been telling the old lady since he has owned it to always remove it from the windscreen and put it away, never did and what happened? Car was broken into 2 weeks ago and it was pinched.

My RX65 Pro still gives me around 2-3 seconds warning even on the new cameras (Poliscan/Laser), but usually once they've got ya you're fucked anyway.

Would like a Valentine One, however if/when the new ban's come into play, they will be useless as they're detectable by "radar detector detectors" and you'll be stung with a hefty fine and the unit will be confiscated. You're better off with the Bel STi-XR or the new Escort (can't remember the model). They're radio shielded and can't be detected easily, and come with a kit that enables you to hide the unit and still have full function.

VRX
01-03-2011, 02:29 AM
You can buy them for $399 through Valentine however they are a manufacturer direct only company that only ship to US addresses,so you have two options 1.A reputable ebay seller 2.Someone trustworthy that can send it over for you from the US.

Or you can always just organise a group buy through one of the local V1 retailers but i doubt the price will be anywhere near good as the options i suggested above.

https://store.valentine1.com/Store/

j3rk
01-03-2011, 06:39 AM
+1 for Val one's, saved my licence many a time!

Jeremy from Delonix may be interested in a group buy / willing to lower his price to suit if there's enough interest. www.delonixradar.com.au/

Stealthed
01-03-2011, 08:55 AM
Slightly off topic, I have been looking at getting that "Stinger Card" as I have an Beltronics RX65 and really dont like having it hang off my window/cord going down dash to power supply.

anyone have any input on it? or should I just get a better detector and perhaps hardwire it?

http://www.radars.com.au/radar_detectors/stinger-card.php

mod
01-03-2011, 09:08 AM
Does this detect the new poli scan or whatever its called? The new laser multinova....
Thats all I see now a days none of the old one emitting Ka bands.

RELEASE
01-03-2011, 09:21 AM
having had a whistler, Bel RX65, Bel STi and V1....the V1 is by far the better one of all the ones out there hence its premium price and no one in perth will budge much on the price


Does this detect the new poli scan or whatever its called? The new laser multinova....
Thats all I see now a days none of the old one emitting Ka bands.yes detects it as laser and only detects the forward facing ones with enough warning.
rear facing cameras and fixed ones they all do sfa on so cant protect against them

brynj
01-03-2011, 12:05 PM
Wouldn't bother with a Pro 78. The only time I've ever had a speeding fine was when I had that detector, went off as I got flashed.. fail.

protecon
01-03-2011, 06:08 PM
Anyone got some real info on V1s being detectable?



rear facing cameras and fixed ones they all do sfa on so cant protect against them

My V1 picks up rear facing cameras too? Sure it won't give you as much warning as forward facing as there's less reflected (especially if you're out in front of traffic).

RELEASE
01-03-2011, 09:08 PM
Anyone got some real info on V1s being detectable?



My V1 picks up rear facing cameras too? Sure it won't give you as much warning as forward facing as there's less reflected (especially if you're out in front of traffic).V1's are detectable as they emit signals to pickup signals and also has signal "leaks"

the reason the STi is "undetecable" is the magnesium case that doesnt emit "leaks"


yes it will pick up rear facing one but it depends on the situation, reflection off cars, whether its active or in standby, etc

all i am saying is the detectors lives are limited hence spending $700 on something thats a temporary aid to me is a waste...had a V1 and sold it. im on a different path but with the car no longer being a daily there is no rush

Tocchi
01-03-2011, 09:13 PM
all i am saying is the detectors lives are limited hence spending $700 on something thats a temporary aid to me is a waste...had a V1 and sold it.

and it's saved me a lot more money than a new detector costs :p

RELEASE
01-03-2011, 09:16 PM
and it's saved me a lot more money than a new detector costs :pso buying mine off me was a good purchase then :p

protecon
01-03-2011, 09:38 PM
V1's are detectable as they emit signals to pickup signals and also has signal "leaks"

the reason the STi is "undetecable" is the magnesium case that doesnt emit "leaks"

The internals of the V1 are also totally encased. I pulled mine apart to see if I could remotely position the sensors but after taking off the plastic casing, was faced with a solid block of some sort of metal with just the sensors showing.
Just wondering where you got your information regarding V1s being detectable.

RELEASE
01-03-2011, 09:42 PM
The internals of the V1 are also totally encased. I pulled mine apart to see if I could remotely position the sensors but after taking off the plastic casing, was faced with a solid block of some sort of metal with just the sensors showing.
Just wondering where you got your information regarding V1s being detectable.http://www.delonixradar.com.au/radar-detectors/comparisons/sti-versus-v1.php
table at the bottom has a summary

http://www.dontgetcaught.com.au/FAQs.html
lists undetectable radar detectors and the V1 isnt listed

protecon
01-03-2011, 10:04 PM
http://www.delonixradar.com.au/radar-detectors/comparisons/sti-versus-v1.php
table at the bottom has a summary

http://www.dontgetcaught.com.au/FAQs.html
lists undetectable radar detectors and the V1 isnt listed

Interesting - looks like the V1 still kills the rest for performance.
There's some chatter about some Australian "Roy Zegers" who has been able to successfully stealth the V1 via mods, albiet at some exorbitant price.

I'd still rather run the risk of being detected without sacrificing performance.
Just like everything in WA, it'll be years before anything is concrete regarding illegal detector usage. Besides, I've already saved the cost of the V1 in $75 fines.

colt75
01-03-2011, 10:23 PM
brnyj did you have the older model pro 78?

and i think a group buy on v1's could be the goer!

Logie
01-03-2011, 10:38 PM
brnyj did you have the older model pro 78?

and i think a group buy on v1's could be the goer!

Keen as mustard

Fujiwara13
01-03-2011, 10:59 PM
also keen on info!
been eyeing off the whistler pro 78 or v1.

does everyone hide them when they park up to avoid theft? or are those days long gone (doubt it)

PM me if you want to work out a price on my Whistler Pro 78se, which is the special west australian edition that is tuned for wa.

My job requires a license so I try not to speed anymore, and don't use it.

Satan
01-03-2011, 11:13 PM
I've had a V1 for ~12 months

saved me heaps, although recently I've had two incidents where its not given very good warnings on front facing poliscans, could be they were in low power mode

colt75
02-03-2011, 12:50 AM
http://www.radardetectorsaustralia.com.au/detail/v1/

these guys are pretty cheap

they have the whistler pro78se for like $245

Evilteddy
02-03-2011, 06:14 AM
You can buy them for $399 through Valentine however they are a manufacturer direct only company that only ship to US addresses,so you have two options 1.A reputable ebay seller 2.Someone trustworthy that can send it over for you from the US.

Or you can always just organise a group buy through one of the local V1 retailers but i doubt the price will be anywhere near good as the options i suggested above.

https://store.valentine1.com/Store/


Try this link sir... (http://www.myus.com)

RELEASE
02-03-2011, 08:49 AM
Interesting - looks like the V1 still kills the rest for performance.
There's some chatter about some Australian "Roy Zegers" who has been able to successfully stealth the V1 via mods, albiet at some exorbitant price.

I'd still rather run the risk of being detected without sacrificing performance.
Just like everything in WA, it'll be years before anything is concrete regarding illegal detector usage. Besides, I've already saved the cost of the V1 in $75 fines.the V1 is by far the best and for the last at least 6years every year they come out with banning radar detectors in WA and they dont. a V1 would be my pick again if i went back to a radar detector....

safe to say that it wont be a while till they ban radar detectors in WA and by then the V1 would have paid itself over a few times.

Madhav
02-03-2011, 10:43 AM
I haven't had one single fine in the last 3 years since owning a performance car, and I almost never follow the speed limit. Definitely worth the money, I would have lost my license several times over by now, and probably had my car impounded too... although like people have said, the old KA band was easier to detect and had longer range than the new laser bands, but still ok.

Logie
02-03-2011, 12:15 PM
I haven't had one single fine in the last 3 years since owning a performance car, and I almost never follow the speed limit. Definitely worth the money, I would have lost my license several times over by now, and probably had my car impounded too... although like people have said, the old KA band was easier to detect and had longer range than the new laser bands, but still ok.

you just jinxed yourself

VRX
02-03-2011, 12:44 PM
Try this link sir... (http://www.myus.com)

Yer that's another good option.

colt75
22-03-2011, 12:54 PM
Guessing no group buy is being done?

Sciflyer
22-03-2011, 03:07 PM
Just wondering where you got your information regarding V1s being detectable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT8JCxSTpzI

Logie
22-03-2011, 03:26 PM
Guessing no group buy is being done?

Get some prices up and people will be interested!

Madhav
30-03-2011, 08:29 AM
you just jinxed yourself

Fuck!!! I think I got done on leach highway doing over 80 in a 60 zone. The mtherfucker was on the other side of the street facing the opposite direction and I got no warning whatsoever, just saw it flash and then heard the beeping. Damn, only 3 points left now.

cplagz
30-03-2011, 08:53 AM
Over 80 in a 60 zone on one of perth's busiest roads and you expect what? sympathy?

Madhav
30-03-2011, 09:00 AM
Over 80 in a 60 zone on one of perth's busiest roads and you expect what? sympathy?

I didn't expect anything except for the v1 to give me more warning, the road was completely empty, I wasn't even aware that the speed camera could get you on the other side of the road? Sympathy? Here at antilag? Ha ha what a joke.

Macca
30-03-2011, 09:05 AM
I didn't expect anything except for the v1 to give me more warning, the road was completely empty, I wasn't even aware that the speed camera could get you on the other side of the road? Sympathy? Here at antilag? Ha ha what a joke.

sux2bu :)

Now lets start the debate on why it didn't go off

Logie
30-03-2011, 09:28 AM
Fuck!!! I think I got done on leach highway doing over 80 in a 60 zone. The mtherfucker was on the other side of the street facing the opposite direction and I got no warning whatsoever, just saw it flash and then heard the beeping. Damn, only 3 points left now.

I just got a rear facing fine in myself, 55 in a school zone at 8:57 and it finishes at 9, rather angary.

Sciflyer
31-03-2011, 08:57 AM
With Lazer you are almost exclusively relying on reflections of the beam off other vehicles, solid objects, etc

If the camera is pointed across the road just into bush and there are no other vehicles or signs/poles/walls/pillars around you will be lucky to get enough warning no matter what detector you have

Chrono90
31-03-2011, 01:59 PM
Yeah, they're cheap because Whistlers are pieces of crap.

Spend the $700 and get either a Bel STi XR, or a Valentine 1.

Chrono90
31-03-2011, 02:00 PM
My STi XR, Picks up the Laser multanovas with plenty of warning PROVIDED there are cars in front. If there are no cars in front, its usually a matter of -you have 3 seconds to slow down or flash-

AMPERAGE
31-03-2011, 02:33 PM
My STi XR, Picks up the Laser multanovas with plenty of warning PROVIDED there are cars in front. If there are no cars in front, its usually a matter of -you have 3 seconds to slow down or flash-

Interesting - mine can be hit or miss. It has given me over 800m warning of laser before with no cars ahead, other times it's been on par with me actually spotting the camera.

Agree that cars ahead to scatter the beam results in better detection.

The beauty of laser detection is that a laser hit is almost 100% guaranteed to be a LIDAR camera, whereas a radar hit can be any one of a dozen things that can trigger them, like automatic doors, roadwork warning signs, vehicle collision detection on Mercedes cars etc. Whether you get a V1 or not, just make sure you get a detector that handles laser, as radar only detectors are somewhat redundant now.

Has anyone else noticed a sharp decline in the number of radar based speed traps since these LIDAR ones came in? I was under the impression that the LIDAR cameras would compliment the radar ones rather than replacing them.

Chrono90
31-03-2011, 06:56 PM
Interesting - mine can be hit or miss. It has given me over 800m warning of laser before with no cars ahead, other times it's been on par with me actually spotting the camera.

Agree that cars ahead to scatter the beam results in better detection.

The beauty of laser detection is that a laser hit is almost 100% guaranteed to be a LIDAR camera, whereas a radar hit can be any one of a dozen things that can trigger them, like automatic doors, roadwork warning signs, vehicle collision detection on Mercedes cars etc. Whether you get a V1 or not, just make sure you get a detector that handles laser, as radar only detectors are somewhat redundant now.

Has anyone else noticed a sharp decline in the number of radar based speed traps since these LIDAR ones came in? I was under the impression that the LIDAR cameras would compliment the radar ones rather than replacing them.


Yeah totally man, I get the same thinggg

VRX
01-04-2011, 12:38 AM
I'm also finding my V1's detection of front facing poliscan's really inconsistent ranging from 30m to around 1.8km's (from under the warrick rd bridge to the reid hwy exit heading south on the mitchell),the detection of rear facing is simply a ticket notifier.

protecon
01-04-2011, 01:01 AM
Fuck!!! I think I got done on leach highway doing over 80 in a 60 zone. The mtherfucker was on the other side of the street facing the opposite direction and I got no warning whatsoever, just saw it flash and then heard the beeping. Damn, only 3 points left now.

Not necessarily - could have been beam splash from a camera on the other side of the road (especially with no median on that 60km/h High St stretch). I had one buzz me from the rear sensor heading up Leach next to the cemetery and never got a fine.


I'm also finding my V1's detection of front facing poliscan's really inconsistent ranging from 30m to around 1.8km's (from under the warrick rd bridge to the reid hwy exit heading south on the mitchell),the detection of rear facing is simply a ticket notifier.

The rear sensor is a bit useless for that but it can also give you warning if there's an undercover/unseen squad car behind you trying to get a reading off you.

Usually, if you're not being reckless and travelling a great deal over the posted limit, you've got a couple of seconds to drop your speed under and avoid a fine.

VRX
01-04-2011, 01:08 AM
The rear sensor is a bit useless for that but it can also give you warning if there's an undercover/unseen squad car behind you trying to get a reading off you.

Yer for K and Ka it works really well but for a rear facing poliscan it's useless.

Tocchi
01-04-2011, 01:17 AM
what angle are you guys pointing your radar detectors at? / positions etc

VRX
01-04-2011, 01:20 AM
low on the screen but with a vertical mount.

Tocchi
01-04-2011, 01:25 AM
pointing straight ahead or on a slight angle etc?

protecon
01-04-2011, 01:28 AM
what angle are you guys pointing your radar detectors at? / positions etc

Used to have it low down in the middle but after there was talk about banning them, I moved it up to behind the rearview mirror (covered mostly by the factory smoked top band on the windscreen). This also hides it from prying eyes.
Haven't noticed a reduction in warning times, but apparently low down is more ideal for catching reflections off the bonnet.

VRX
01-04-2011, 01:37 AM
pointing straight ahead or on a slight angle etc?

Straight ahead.

Chrono90
01-04-2011, 07:41 AM
I've had mine on both a vertical and a horizontal mount. I'm back to horizontal. I've tested it with LIDAR / LASER Cameras, and it makes sweet fuck all difference with them. For low powered old school Moltanovas, vertical mount is good, because you get extra range. This is not the case with laser, and considering the 32 speed cameras WA owned (The moltanovas) have been all replaced with LIDAR / LASER Poliscan speed cameras, there's no point, as Ka band is as rare as duck pingpingpingpings.

Madhav
01-04-2011, 07:45 AM
Not necessarily - could have been beam splash from a camera on the other side of the road (especially with no median on that 60km/h High St stretch). I had one buzz me from the rear sensor heading up Leach next to the cemetery and never got a fine.


I hope ur right. I did see a flash, right when I heard it go off... I checked my demerit points online and it hasn't registered. Although they do say it doesn't show the latest infringements. Time will tell. How long do fines normally take to show up in the mail?

Sciflyer
01-04-2011, 09:05 AM
Used to have it low down in the middle but after there was talk about banning them, I moved it up to behind the rearview mirror (covered mostly by the factory smoked top band on the windscreen). This also hides it from prying eyes.
Haven't noticed a reduction in warning times, but apparently low down is more ideal for catching reflections off the bonnet.

Ive done the opposite - always had it near the top of the screen where it was less visible, moved it down for laser which was "apparently" better

Might move it back up where its less in teh way

colt75
08-04-2011, 10:44 PM
looking at getting one of these now.

anyone know of cheapest place ?

ebay seems to be around 450-500