Kurt Cobain

[JNR man]

Today marks the 17th anniversary of the death of the Grundge god. Whilst he took his own life and was added to the list of the 27s club, his music has touched a lot of people in a lot of different ways. May his memmories live on in his music. R.I.P Kurt

[Fukushima]

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might as well turn this into an appreciation thread


LOL @ the comments


Proof that '94 was the worst year ever: Kurt Cobain, Cab Calloway, & Bill Hicks die, & Justin Bieber is born.

[Tones]

Bah Courtney love had him murdered!
But yes, been listening live at reading album heaps lately.

[-Luke-]

Bah Courtney love had him murdered!
But yes, been listening live at reading album heaps lately.

+1!

Anybody Seen the doco "Kurt and Courtney"???

[YOUR MATE]

Overrated artist imo. I never got the huge fascination with the guy. Still, RIP, even if it was his own doing.

[Riggs]

He was a nut, but music was sensational

[DanWA]

Overrated artist imo. I never got the huge fascination with the guy. Still, RIP, even if it was his own doing.

what the fuck???

i'd sure hate to hear your taste in music then

RIP

[KPCresta]

RIP Kurt...

A music legend that will never be forgotten!

[-Luke-]

He was a nut, but music was sensational

Heroins a helluva drug:)

[matty12]

i remember the 7th of april every year, such a waste.

Its time flannel made a comeback!

[fourseven]

Overrated artist imo. I never got the huge fascination with the guy. Still, RIP, even if it was his own doing.

Amen. Had the girls and boys of the world wrapped around his little finger, all the money in the world, drugs, women, cars... "oh no, I'm so depressed, my life sucks" and BANG.

Fucking weak pingpingpingping. There's 3 or 4 Nirvana songs that I can listen to. The rest of their shit is horrible.

[JNR man]

Amen. Had the girls and boys of the world wrapped around his little finger, all the money in the world, drugs, women, cars... "oh no, I'm so depressed, my life sucks" and BANG.

Fucking weak pingpingpingping. There's 3 or 4 Nirvana songs that I can listen to. The rest of their shit is horrible.

Each to their own i will let you have your opinion and agree to disagree with you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quZ5rE8ujcA

[fourseven]

LOL that's one of the songs I like.

[esky]

Amen. Had the girls and boys of the world wrapped around his little finger, all the money in the world, drugs, women, cars... "oh no, I'm so depressed, my life sucks" and BANG.

Fucking weak pingpingpingping. There's 3 or 4 Nirvana songs that I can listen to. The rest of their shit is horrible.

Silky Johnson got fuckall on this guy.

[-Luke-]

I didnt like the music (or the scene/following) when It was first released and I was smack in the middle of the target demographic.

I've gotten right into the music in the last few years but cant work out if its really is brilliant or Im just reading too much into it? (i mean "its okay too kill fish they have no feeling's" brilliant or just good crack man???)

[big o]

Mates band Gyroscope do a tribute to Nirvana and sing BREED at live shows,the crowd just go mental.

Awesome artist, shit cowardly way to end though.

I remember when they air NIRVANA UNPLUGGED on sbs when I was in highschool, I recon my whole year class at school watched it, so awesome.

[-Luke-]

Spawned some awesome pop culture tho...........

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[JME]

Music of the era, and leading the tidal wave of the seattle music scene that was being eaten up at the time.

He wasn't even that talented but the songs written worked.........very very well.

[pgc]

Each to their own i will let you have your opinion and agree to disagree with you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quZ5rE8ujcA

Except that's not his song.

[fourseven]

Except that's not his song.

Nirvana's version is much better than Meat Puppets though.

[JNR man]

Nirvana's version is much better than Meat Puppets though.

+1

[mitchy]

what the fuck???

i'd sure hate to hear your taste in music then

RIP

considering he likes "lmfao - party rock anthem", yes his music taste is fucking shit.

[6LtrJet]

Its time flannel made a comeback!

are you telling me that it ever left ?

[matty12]

dunno, was wearing one in collie on the weekend, felt strangely like it was ment to be.

[ryanr32]

Wasn't he on the heroin because of a stomach condition that cause extreme pain and no doctor could diagnose it?

Throughout most of his life, Cobain suffered from chronic bronchitis and intense physical pain due to an undiagnosed chronic stomach condition.[74] His first drug experience was with marijuana in 1980, at age 13. He regularly used the drug during adulthood.[75] Cobain also had a period of consuming "notable" amounts of LSD, as observed by Tracy Marander,[76] and "really into getting fucked up: drugs, acid, any kind of drug", observed Krist Novoselic; Cobain was also prone to alcoholism and solvent abuse.[75] Cobain's cousin Beverly, a nurse, claimed Cobain was diagnosed with attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder as a child, and bipolar disorder as an adult. She also brought attention to the history of suicide, mental illness and alcoholism in the Cobain family, noting two of her uncles who had committed suicide with guns.[77]

Cobain's stomach condition was emotionally debilitating to him, and he intermittently tried to find its cause, usually at the insistence of Love. None of the many doctors he consulted were able to pinpoint the specific cause. He suffered from an acute self-consciousness and developed a poor body image, due to his low body weight; which was primarily due to malnourishment caused by his stomach condition, poor diet (as attributed by numerous doctors), or a combination of both.

[-Luke-]

I didn't realise heroin was an option for stomach problems...

(im pretty sure he was just on junk because it was fun.....)

[Sciflyer]

developed a poor body image, due to his low body weight; which was primarily due to malnourishment caused by his stomach condition, poor diet (as attributed by numerous doctors), or a combination of both.

..or it couldve been the smack which has exactly the same effect ;)

An important band in the history of music, although i think their biggest contribution has turned out to be Dave Grohl

lol

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[ryanr32]

As part of my TEE I had to do a report on him and his life. From the information i read and researched that was the explination from those close to him that he was using it because it helped him deal with the pain. Wether it's true or not I don't really know but medically he had some problems

[Sciflyer]

Also this same date makes it the ninth anniversary of Layne Staley's death, imo more talented and a tragic end

[AGIT8D]

I remember when they air NIRVANA UNPLUGGED on sbs when I was in highschool, I recon my whole year class at school watched it, so awesome.

Hahahaha I distinctly remember being in primary school art class one day and one of the boys bought in a cassette tape of Nirvana Unplugged and we got to listen to it in art while we painted cool stuff or whatever we were doing.. Not sure how old the cassette was then but that's the first time I heard Nirvana and later on got a copy of their Nevermind CD and thought it was the best thing in the world.

RIP Kurt, great artist, and a swag of dope songs.

[yeahlow34]

Amen. Had the girls and boys of the world wrapped around his little finger, all the money in the world, drugs, women, cars... "oh no, I'm so depressed, my life sucks" and BANG.

Fucking weak pingpingpingping. There's 3 or 4 Nirvana songs that I can listen to. The rest of their shit is horrible.

I generally agree with alot of the things you have to say. But the above, to me, is a fucking rediculous uneducated comment. Shows a significant lack of understanding.

Anyhow, RIP. Loved the music.

[fourseven]

Which bit? I'm not saying the band was crap... I'm just saying to my ears their music was crap. Obviously he was talented, he wouldn't have taken the world by storm the way he did if he wasn't.

If you are referring to the weak bit... I find it hard for anyone to justify how someone so popular, with literally all the money they would ever need, is so depressed they need to take their own life.

[yeahlow34]

The weak part.

Depression is a chemical inbalance in the brain. All the money/cars/houses/fame in the world does not negate the fact that someone is depressed. It's not as simple as just surrounding yourself with things of value.

Unfortunately, there is this misconception among most people that money buys happiness....and therefore you can avoid being depressed. It just is not the case. As I said, a lack of understanding and education.

[fourseven]

Fair comment. The chemical imbalance is more often than not brought on by life events though, right? It's rare for it to be hereditary. I remember reading an article on Cobain years ago about how his unhappiness was usually a result of his popularity and his music reaching the mainstream. He wanted his music to remain "underground", not played on the radio. If this is the case, I'm still finding it hard to see the justification in blowing your head off with a shotgun as opposed to bowing out of the industry, getting off the gear and avoiding the party lifestyle which probably contributed significantly to his depression.

Not to try and compare, but I spent a couple of years on the streets at 14. I was pretty fucking depressed. When I managed to get back on my feet, the only thing that made me happy was having money to live. So I think money can bring some happiness and it's the only thing that got me through at the other end.

[Klutch]

I find it hard for anyone to justify how someone so popular, with literally all the money they would ever need, is so depressed they need to take their own life.
Maybe read up a bit on how depression works?
Clinic depression is a psychological disorder, you could have the hottest bitches and be the richest guy in the world but if theres something wrong in your head, its not going to fix it now is it... Its the same as schizophrenia, these things don't just "Go Away"

Edit; Damnit, beaten.

[fourseven]

I know how depression works. I got fed the same lines over and over. I thought about suicide plenty of times - sounded like a much better option than having to find a stinky fucking place to sleep every night.

I'm just not a believer in everything the medical world has to say on the subject.

[Klutch]

Everyone gets some form of depression in their lives at some point, some worse than others, some last days some lasts months. You got your depression of a shitty situation that you eventually overcame.

Clinical Depression/Major Depressive Disorder is a little different than your ordinary depression, as it never actually goes away. The person might be okay for a few months but nothing specific will trigger it, and BAM, they're back to how they were. It tuants you, "oh, im feeling pretty good this week", then for no specific reason, 12 hours later you're back at a low point after having had a taste of being happy and content.

This is the type of depression of which people take medication for, and this is the type of depression that most often people kill themselves over, they get sick of constantly battling this that they just give up, why live life when its a constant struggle, looking around you while others are getting on and enjoying life while you're stuck dwelling and hating it. After a decade that'd get pretty damn tiring for anyone.

I'm presuming this is what kurt cobain had since i've read that he suffered depression and had previous suicide attempts, and he had clinical depressed relatives that had also killed themselves.

[fourseven]

and he had clinical depressed relatives that had also killed themselves.

If that's the case then yeahlow is right, my comments are uneducated.

[Klutch]

Cobain's cousin Beverly, a nurse, claimed Cobain was diagnosed with attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder as a child, and bipolar disorder as an adult. She also brought attention to the history of suicide, mental illness and alcoholism in the Cobain family, noting two of her uncles who had committed suicide with guns.
Taken from Wiki.

[Pav]

You guys talking about depression is making me depressed! I used to be a Nirvana hater, but at the end of the day the guy was a renegade. Nirvana - Unplugged is one of the all time greats. RIP Kurt Cocain... erm, Cobain.

[Mad_Aussie]

http://informedfarmers.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/sheep.jpg

Not a huge Nirvana fan personally.
Can appreciate the music for what it is, but as Dan Le Sac said,

"Thou shalt not put musicians and recording artists on ridiculous pedestals no matter how great they are or were.
The Beatles... Were just a band.
Led Zepplin... Just a band.
The Beach Boys... Just a band.
The Sex Pistols... Just a band.
The Clash... Just a band.
Crass... Just a band.
Minor Threat... Just a band.
The Cure... Just a band.
The Smiths... Just a band.
Nirvana... Just a band.
The Pixies... Just a band.
Oasis... Just a band.
Radiohead... Just a band.
Bloc Party... Just a band.
The Arctic Monkeys... Just a band.
The Next Big Thing.. JUST A BAND."

[-Luke-]

Hehe first Person too find a pic of a sheep wearing flanno and moshing too Nirvana wins a cookie!

(two cookies if the sheep is clinically depressed and on smack!)

[shane]

are you telling me that it ever left ?

LOL, thats what I thought. :)

[yeahlow34]

Wasn't aimed specifically at you four7, just a general misconception in society.

It's terribly sad when someone decides that taking their own life is the best soluction to a situation.

[Scaf]

Not a huge fan, but RIP.

[YOUR MATE]

considering he likes "lmfao - party rock anthem", yes his music taste is fucking shit.

Haha fuck you guy.

I'll listen to a lot, and I don't dislike Nirvana. I just think he as an artist was way over rated.

[masTers]

I remember when they air NIRVANA UNPLUGGED on sbs when I was in highschool, I recon my whole year class at school watched it, so awesome.

I remember taping that on VHS, no Torrents, DVDS or even CD-R's back then.

"The sun is gone, but I have a light"