Hilux engine conversion

[Drift_R32]

After turning down offers on my hilux I'm considering keeping it


Whos the workshop or person to go see to do engine conversions
I'm still thinking either 3.8v6/na 2jze/rb20det??


I'd go 1jz but I'm not really after spending a massive amount as it's still my work car


Anyways.. Ideas?

[evoeata]

After turning down offers on my hilux I'm considering keeping it


Whos the workshop or person to go see to do engine conversions
I'm still thinking either 3.8v6/na 2jze/rb20det??


I'd go 1jz but I'm not really after spending a massive amount as it's still my work car


Anyways.. Ideas?

im researching the commo v6 route for my LN130 surf at the moment. it seems alot cheaper conversion than the holden v8 or 1UZ conversions. price is around the 2k mark for the conversion kit (v6conversions.com.au). works out cheaper for me as i can use my gearbox and crossmember but need the engine mounts and bellhousing conversion. engines are cheap as chips and there are plenty of "performance" mods to do to them. will be alot faster than the old 2.4l diesel slug that is in it at the moment. marks adapters is a good place to start researching various combos.

[Alt_F4]

1UZ. Relatively cheap, reliable, goes well, and been done before.

[Drift_R32]

Mines not even 4x4 so can't be too difficult..

Yeh but finding a quality 1uz isn't easy, practically everyone I've seen is a heap or has majorly fuvked valve stems
Kinda hoping to get a motor that is easy and cheap on parts as it's a daily.

[shifted]

Perth4x4 member has his own shop in Coogee if I recall and does 1UZ conversions all the time.

I looked into the Commi V6 route not long ago and marks4x4adapters wanted $5-$6k-ish for all conversion bits minus motor and minor things... so didn't go ahead with it!

[Risk10k]

3RZ. Don't change a good thing.

[mxracer]

2jzge is very easy and cheap conv. been done a heap of times , 160rwhp and prob about 2k to do if you can do the work yourself.

[Drift_R32]

Yeh not really that mechanically minded unfortunately..

Shifted- yeh 6k is ridiculous..

[cactus]

My old man does engine conversions ... if you're actually keen PM me.

[Smoked]

the v6 commodore engine in a hilux isnt really anything you would be satisfied with mike.
engine note nothing special, performance nothing special either.. for the change in fuel economy and the money spent.

use the money you want to spend on a conversion to buy a rolla like ur mate and drop a 4age in it! and if u have enough cashola use a 20valve
motor.. that thing will haul ass and be more fun than anything youve had lol

though ive found it tough finding any ae71's let alone a good one cheap

[Drift_R32]

It's mainly cause I'm happy with mY hilux besides performance wise..
Not so much trying to get a quick car out of it just something that isn't a slug like currently.
I don't enjoy driving it because it's just to slow..

Haha yeh ash never should have sold that rolla, but he does have mental show room condition vk..


Cactus-pm sent

[masterA]

Perth4x4 member has his own shop in Coogee if I recall and does 1UZ conversions all the time.

I looked into the Commi V6 route not long ago and marks4x4adapters wanted $5-$6k-ish for all conversion bits minus motor and minor things... so didn't go ahead with it!

Just like you I looked at this and nearly went ahead with the conversion but like you said....once you price ALL the parts (some are not required like the shroud....radiator....catch can) and it came just under $6K which was crazy (thats without the engineering certs)

If you can do a few things yourself like wiring and get a swirl pot made with a pump you will save ALOT of money and could possible get a kit for $2K and an engine for $1000....engineering cert for $500..... so for $3.5K you could have a pretty decent hilux with plenty of power

I still have two engines (one still in a drivable VP 5spd with only 116,000km) so i will revisit this down the line once the 2.8D slug decides to die.... but
v6conversions.com seem to have all the parts for $2K

Also heard on the weekend that apparently there is a kit on ebay for $1200 for the conversion (need to look into this)

[Drift_R32]

surely theres something that goes in slightly easier then the v6
i just dont see where you can get 6k worth of stuff needed to covert it..

[masterA]

It comes down to what you want and need for the conversion.....lots of OPTIONAL items that are needed if you want to do a 'proper' conversion and get it fully engineered

You could cut corners but here's a list of what you can buy from Marks4WD adaptors for teh 2.8D rigid axel 99 onwards.....(prices are on the website)
http://www.marks4wd.com/products/engine-trans-conversions/toyota/hilux/Hilux-LN60+LFS-VN-S2-VP.htm

TH700R-4 to Hilux 5-speed gear drive transfer case
C/O Change over deposit
MFK677 Oil pressure adaptor
MFK1022 Water temperature adaptor
MFK715/5 Heavy duty 5-speed transmission
MFK129/B Bell housing kit to suit heavy duty 5-speed transmission
MFK129 Bell housing Kit to Hilux petrol or diesel 4-cylinder 5-speed
MFK130 Engine Mount Kit Commodore V6 to Hilux 18R, 22R and all diesel models with leaf spring front suspension
MFK1247S2 Flywheel to suit Commodore VN Series 2 Automatic V6
MFK1480 Starter Motor to suit Commodore the above flywheel
MCK129 Heavy duty clutch kit
MFK1645 Clutch master cylinder & adaptor kit all models
MFK648D Commodore V6 VN, VP, and VR engine interface loom diesel models
MFK696 Hall effect VSS to suit cable driven speedometers
MFK696E VSS Interface Module to suit vehicles with electronic speedometers
MFK1453 Diagnostic test light to suit VN, VP, VR
MFK682 Under bonnet, bracket kit suits all models
MFK683 High pressure, fuel pump and bracket kit suits all models
MFK6823 Complete Fuel and bracket kit to suit Hilux/4-Runner all models
MFK1410 Surge Tank and Electronic Fuel Pump Kit to suit all models
MFK1201 Engine cooling kit (Electric Fans)
MFK1403S1 Engine cooling kit (Engine Driven Fan)
MFK1418 35mm wide fan Shroud kit (To Suit Engine Driven Fan) (optional)
MFK1416DA Engine driven, Fan Shroud to suit Commodore V6 engines in Hilux/4-Runner & Bundera Diesel models (optional)
MFK1145/H Shifter mounting and display kit to suit TH700/4L60E into Toyota Hilux 4/Runner pre 1988 (optional)
MFK1145/4R Shifter mounting and display kit to suit TH700/4L60E into Toyota Hilux, 4/Runner 1988 on (optional)
MFK1249/3 3 core heavy-duty radiator (optional)
MERHL4 Replacement engine mount rubbers to suit all Hilux/4-Runner 4-cylinder models

[Drift_R32]

yeh i can see all the parts there

maybe thats all the parts needed to get a engineering cert

mines petrol
not 4x4

and as for alot of those parts..
not sure on prices but im pretty sure it would be cheaper to get a aftermarket setup with better quality parts and still come out ontop..

i was under the impression that on the carbied models theres fuck all wiring that joins to the loom from the car itself like 6 wires or something.

[masterA]

Petrol/diesel....4xs4 or 4x2....there's not much difference

22R engines are carbie and there's a list of items what is required for them which is pretty much the same as above list
All the prices are listed on their site when you click on the part number (depending if you want to buy them or what you want/need)
Im not saying it's the cheapest options but it's a "kit" they offer....and there are other cheaper kits like from V6conversions.com for under $2K

When you say you want to get a aftermarket setup with better quality parts....what do you mean by that?!

It all depends on what you want and how much you're willing to spend or how much you can do yourself
As for wiring...if you're handy with the soldering iron and reading diagrams then it's something you don't need to buy but from memory it's like $200...plug and play.

[Drift_R32]

oh just certain parts id rather buy a certain brand etc..

called quite afew people who used to do the conversions but dont do them anymore.
so still looking around..

got link to that kit on V6conversions?

[DanWA]

My engine/box conversion was a 10k drive in drive out affair back in 1992, that was everything including re-rego. V8Surf on Perth4x4 does a 1UZ conversion for similar price drive in drive out.

Go the T700 auto conversion at the same time because the hilux manuals are like glass

Mine runs an early cast iron style dyna 5 speed truck box, try get one if you can find one

To give you an idea on doing it yourself, a mates cost him just shy of 5k doing everything himself bar the loom, there is always unexpected costs when it comes to conversion (my ls1 torana for example)

[Drift_R32]

man 10k is a fucking joke..

if i spent 10k id want more then a shitty v6 in there thats all i can say.
i dunno, i hear some people spend like 5k some people spend 3k, dunno who to believe..

i guess ill see if i can get some quotes and talk to some mates who are able to do the work and go from there..

i

[perthute555]

fab work ( motor and box can be in and out around 10 times ) till things are right
exhaust
wirring / gauges
custom rad / thermo setup
tail sharft
price of motor n box
cooler piping if turbo

put a price next to each of them and see wat comes up remember workshops charging 50-100 per hour clocks up a 5-10k convershion very quick

extras like upgraded diff to handle power
upgraded brakes for larger motor
bigger trans tunnel
upgraded fuel system

disclaimer i have only done conversion on dattos with sr20's and ca18s so things may be different

[Drift_R32]

Exhuast-already have an exhuast would just have to be connected to the rest
Wiring-to get car started theres not that many wires about 6 to get it started(so ive been told)
radiator/cooling-surely doesnt have to be custom/already have EL thermos
tailshaft- i want to retain manual box so hopefully shouldnt be an issue
motor and box-say i got a v6 and t5, prob 1000ish?
fab work-obviouslly the big one, if i use adaptors do they attach to stock mounts and straight to motor ?

diff should be fine its a hilux diff
brakes maybe better rotors brakes arent that bad...not drums or something
dont think trans tunnel should be touched
fuel system IF i got a surge tank and decent pump and not mount it lower then the tank thats like what? $350 with a decent pump, i can wire and plumb that up.

i can see what u mean about it costing alot..
suppose the more you can do yourself the better really..
getting the motor in there is the issue if you need custom mounts, after that most besides wiring could be done yourself or for pretty cheap.

[DanWA]

Glad i didn't pay the bill, mine isn't a dodgy off the shelf conversion kit by the way, full custom, motor actually sits in there like its meant to be in there etc. Also factor in the re-rego, even in the early 90's it wasn't just a simple thing to go putting an injected v6 in place of a 2.4 diesel.

Mine retains the diesel radiator, just added a decent size thermo back then by the looks.

T5 won't fit in the tunnel, good luck with that, seen it done though, spacing the mounts down.

You're only going to do it cheap if you do yourself, if you can fab your own mounts and stuff you can do it even cheaper, bit easier for you being RWD, most of the people quoting prices quote for 4x4.

Post on Perth4x4 mate, try get toyrex's number for a chat.

[masterA]

Here's the link
http://www.v6conversions.com.au/hilux4runner.htm

$1975 for solid axel
$2375 for IFS

Few extra's if required
Tacho interface - $150.00
EFI fuel pump - $240.00
16” thermo fan - $200.00
Idler kit VN - VR - $150.00
VS - VT - $175.00 this is to be used if not running power steering.
Body Control Simulator VR-VS - $325.00 VT-VY - $425.00
This is to override anti-theft.
VT - VY wiring looms are $25.00 extra on normal wiring looms.

Also, if you have a diesel you will need to modify the neck filler to a smaller one if you're getting it registered/engineered

You won't need to modify the driveshaft as you will be using the hilux box....you just get the bellhousing to fit the engine

If you have the G52 gearbox it is abit weaker but it can still take the abuse and if/when it does decide to go....just the the stronger R151 box that bolts straight in :)

Only mounts you will need is for the engine and I think you can get them from Mark's Adapters for $400 (if you won't buy the V6 conversions kit)
The bellhousing from memory is around $1000 if you were to buy that seperate (have a look on the website....i posted the link above)
You can use the standard radiator and even use the belt driven fan (put the EF thermo since you already have it)

You will only need the engine and loom so $800 should get you one of those

I would stick with the manual as with running the T700 auto there is more work involved as you need a new radiator to run the tranny lines etc

Since you got most of the knowledge and parts you could get away with it for $3.5K i think with the engineering cert

[Drift_R32]

Awesome cheers for that.. Sounds abit more like it price wise,

[masterA]

No worries

I'll be probably doing this conversion sometime next year when the 2.8D slug lets go or i just want more power :P hahaha
Already have the engine and T5 box (which i'll sell off) and i'll be either getting the V6 Conversion kit from Pat Gardener or just buying the bellhosing and engine mounts from Marks Adaptors.

Should be able to do most of the wiring myself....also have an EL thermo fan and i'll just buy a swirl pot....fuel pump...have a petrol tank with the neck filler from my other wreck.....get an engineering cert (maybe)......few $$$ for odd bits and pieces

Should be around $2000-2500 depending which way i go

[firestorm]

So if anyone wants a 2jz-ge 4x4 lux...just pm me...easier than building one! :P

Sorry Drift_R32 for the thread hijack :D

[Drift_R32]

No stress buddy yours is sick if I had the money I'd buy it.. But abit out of my price range. And I'm hoping to stay manaul.

[ReaperSS]

Go the lsx conversion ;)

http://www.marks4wd.com/products/engine-trans-conversions/toyota/hilux/hilux-chev-LS-v8.html

[Drift_R32]

Lol there's traction issues with a v6.. Ls1 would be pointless, would be sick though..

[2jzlux]

So if anyone wants a 2jz-ge 4x4 lux...just pm me...easier than building one! :P

Sorry Drift_R32 for the thread hijack :D

Is yours the one on gumtree for sale?

[Drift_R32]

Yeh Thats his..

[dattoman]

Stan Starcevich used to be the V6 conversion man around these parts
Used to be in Maddington on Kelvin Rd

I think Stan retired but his right hand man is still about and doing conversions

Might be worth chasing up

[family guy]

Was just about to ask for recomendations for a shop to help finish off engine mounts and engineer a v6 into d21 navara? Is Stan Starcevich still the man to see. I know there is BYE and a few other shops. Just looking around at the moment.

[masterA]

From the previous posts money seems to be an issue (as with everyone :P lol).....so taking it to a shop he'll need to fork out $7-10K

[Drift_R32]

Lol anyone that pays that much for a v6 conversion in a 20year old year old hilux had something wrong with them. For that money id want something fancy like decent powered 1jz/2jz.

I'm sure it prob does cost that much for a conversion but I refuse to pay it

[Smoked]

hes right, 7 to 10k is absolutely on the pipe hard. even for shop pricing!

[turboedsloth]

My panel beater is doing the holden 5l conversion into his Rn105 hilux atm, is a massive job but he has gotten quite a few things from Marks adaptors at an expense though. From memory there was a guy in Mandurah that did the v6 conversions into hiluxs, and there was a shop in Cockburn that did the 1uz conversions

[2jzlux]

If you are still keen on a 2jz maybe give mxracer a Pm, he knows how to do them and has plenty of time on his hands.

[Niva]

2jzge is very easy and cheap conv. been done a heap of times , 160rwhp and prob about 2k to do if you can do the work yourself.

what makes the NA version so much easyer to swap in?

[2jzlux]

what makes the NA version so much easyer to swap in?


No turbo shit to fuck around with, turbo, manifold and intercooler piping are a bit of a headache in a bay meant for a 4 cylinder. Then you have to try to keep it cool.
Me and mxracer finished my 2jzge in about two weekends, my Gte is still going after a few years but im being lazy.

[mxracer]

No turbo shit to fuck around with, turbo, manifold and intercooler piping are a bit of a headache in a bay meant for a 4 cylinder. Then you have to try to keep it cool.
Me and mxracer finished my 2jzge in about two weekends, my Gte is still going after a few years but im being lazy.
2 more weekends we could have your turbo one going !.

yea turbo is a bit more involved , cooler , piping , turbo clearance's etc etc

[Drift_R32]

Lol pm sent..

[McKVNT]

Apologies Drift_R32 - Don't mean to hijack!

I'd be pretty interested in the 1UZ conversion, mines auto 2wd, want to keep it auto, I've googled the sh1t out of it but haven't had much real solid joy for 2wd info, basic stuff like wanting front sump and certain types of headers to fit, as far as engine mounts go is there somebody that makes a kit for autos? I know Dellow do bell housing swap to keep my 3RZ auto box, whatever designation that is, and mate it to 1UZ, can't imagine it would last long behind it tho? Can do basically everything bar the wiring myself although could do that if I had to hahah

[McKVNT]

LOL - just realised how old this thread is!

[shifted]

@Drift_R32 - did you end up doing the 2JZ-GE swap?

I was looking into these about a year ago myself, seemed like it would be the most simple conversion. The 2.8D still has some life in her though so not sure when/if I will ever bother with it considering how long I plan to hold onto the car for..