View Full Version : SO SICK OF THE ROLLA - bye bye
4GTEIT
21-07-2005, 10:56 PM
Hey guys,
as soon as I get the yellow sticker off my car Im selling her, master cylinder is dead and I am so sick of spending my months pay on fixing my car each month. I want to purchase a Series 5 RX7 (not convertable).
want something with the potential to be fast down teh qtr. run into the 10's
what are these like? are there any common issues with them?
negatives/positives of the car. Specs would be good as well, I know there a 13bt but not sure of power ratings.
cheers
Dan.
Skrappy
21-07-2005, 11:11 PM
:lol: You want less repairs so your going for an rx7?
They are generally known to have a pretty high maintenance factor along with general high costs all round. Don't get me wrong.. they are fantastic cars and everything, but if your looking for less repairs and better fuel consumption you have possibly chosen one of the worst cars that you could possibly choose.
Want something that is going to run fast in a straight line? Get a trev car. 1/4 mile times mean very little in reality, get a car that you can really drive and have fun with.
confuzion
21-07-2005, 11:25 PM
You want less repairs so your going for an rx7?
lol i was just about to say that
i can pretty much predict what ever car (especially import) you get you will be spending your months pay on it anyway
upgarage
22-07-2005, 12:14 AM
werent ya whacking off over it cause you just got new mags? :P
id just maintain it and drive it around and enjoy it. least u know everything is new and not much will go wrong
4GTEIT
22-07-2005, 07:25 AM
hmmm, I love imports. wouldnt have anything else really. What other cars do you guys reccomend then? I have allways wanted a 180 :p
[RX2]
22-07-2005, 08:58 AM
hmmm, I love imports. wouldnt have anything else really. What other cars do you guys reccomend then? I have allways wanted a 180 :p
as a mazda fan but also having other imports aswell dont go for a s4/5 rx7 if you seriously want to go into the 10sec brack it will cost massive $$$ to do so, 10sec cars + reliability + rotor, then a daily driver?? they just dont match
the best car for your money on the market atm ... BUY CLIFFS GOD DAMN FU<KEN ZED !
im not sayn that the zed is a 10sec weapon, but it has enough poke to have alot of fun with & get your self into trouble , plenty of mods & plenty more could be done at your own will
Brockas
22-07-2005, 10:05 AM
want something with the potential to be fast down teh qtr. run into the 10's
Been watching Fast n Furious too much dude?
You can't afford to maintain a corolla but want a 10 second car? No chance in hell.
If you want a 180, then get a 180 cause after all its your car, not anyone elses here, but dont expect more than high 12's with mild mods.
If you want something different, and with the mods there to already go fast, then yes, BUY CLINTS ZED...
If you actually want 10s, then get a $25,000 loan and buy Steve's GSR, its already run a 11.1 I believe.
ben351
22-07-2005, 11:09 AM
or get 10k and buy an old X series Ford with a 5.8L in it ... mild mods and yew pull low 13's to high 12's if its done properly ... parts arent that expensive for old trev cars once i get my XF back on the road i estimate i only spend 2-3k brought it for 5k no idea what she will run but Clevo engines are tough as **** when looked after properly then save up a bit mo cash get her stroked to like 383 or some sh!t fukin get wheel stands dude ... hahah buy some double pluggers an a checkered tshirt shazza will love it ! Tits an all
ben351
22-07-2005, 12:05 PM
or you could get an old TE Cortina and slap a 250XFLOW in her and get 12's dude
Syncope
22-07-2005, 12:05 PM
You can't afford to maintain a corolla but want a 10 second car? No chance in hell.
:werd:
4GTEIT
22-07-2005, 12:10 PM
arnt Z's only a 2 seater. I herd that they are a pain in the ass to work on because its such a sqeeze in the bay. Its not that I cant afford to keep the corolla. I am just sick of fixing it every month! sucha hard decision Perhaps I need to go test drive some cars and pick that way. Pitty I dont like holdens or I would get a Calais Turbo. any other suggestions? only reason a 180 puts me off is because everyone owns one, same with r32's. time to do some research me thinks
cheers
dan
Syncope
22-07-2005, 12:33 PM
I wouldnt really consider the fact that cars are common, they are only so because they are affordable. If you want unique, you have to either pay more for the car of pay more for parts down the track.
Personally, you should buy something that is common, play around with it, see what its like and all, then go from there. At least if anything goes wrong, there is plenty of parts and people who work on such cars. Im sure after the experience you'll look back on this topic and laugh.
4GTEIT
22-07-2005, 12:36 PM
yeah.. so many cars with lots of potential. Its just deciding what car will suit my expectations and future plans. I think I will end up with a 180 anyways ;)
confuzion
22-07-2005, 12:44 PM
some z32 300zx can come in 2 seater but clints z31 has rear seats, really shmick car i think you should consider it
botlfed
22-07-2005, 12:50 PM
or you could get an old TE Cortina and slap a 250XFLOW in her and get 12's dude
I've got a TF for sale with a worked 250 innit buy that :D
anything thats capable of runnin 10's will give u plenty of grief & wont be reliable & usable as a daily lets face it, whether it be a 4/6/8 or rotary...for starters using a 10 sec car as a daily would result in costing you a fortune as for 1 big $$/hp engines dont last that long, so dont expect to do your 20 odd thousand k a year without allowing atleast another 10, 15, 20k or whatever (engine dependant) on a 'freshen up'...
if you want to do 10's reliably, day in day out, buy a 900cc plus superbike... :)
Morgs
22-07-2005, 01:13 PM
No offense, but if you're looking at a faster car with more power, you're going to end up with more maintenance issues more often, and more expensive.
Especially a 10 second car, theres not many people here who actually have one, or even a car with that potential - but I assure you that generally you'll have lost alot of reliability from the package over a stockish car.
4GTEIT
22-07-2005, 01:14 PM
thanks for that slugwrx, thats opened my eyes up a bit, didnt really think of it like that.
Just want something fast that will blow the doors off most cars
i'd just modify your rolla...momo suck off valve, motec system exhaust maybe a 500hp shot of NOZ. :P
Go for what makes you happy. Sounds like you already decided on a 180 so why not go test drive a few and see if you like them. Best thing you can do is test a whole heap of cars and then make a decision. Don't limit yourself to one type either...
Brockas
22-07-2005, 01:33 PM
No, just buy clints Zed, seriously for 10,500 its one of the best buys going round at the moment. This one isn't hard to work on either as you'll notice it has the RB20DET, which is easy to work on compared to the late model VG30DETT....
[RX2]
22-07-2005, 01:34 PM
go & have a look at cliffs zed & see if you like it, im sure he wont mind taking you for a drive, as said it does have rear seats as ive sat in the back of it before, & the eng bay has a rb20 sitting in there much the same to work on as a r32 i would think!
4GTEIT
22-07-2005, 01:44 PM
If its still available in a month I will but at the moment am paying off a dept getting the yellow off the rolla. Allot of work is involved to get the sticker off like suspension and fueling problems. probably about a grand in repairs and still payn off my wheels.
sounds like a great car however? any pics available online of it??
[RX2]
22-07-2005, 01:49 PM
If its still available in a month I will but at the moment am paying off a dept getting the yellow off the rolla. Allot of work is involved to get the sticker off like suspension and fueling problems. probably about a grand in repairs and still payn off my wheels.
sounds like a great car however? any pics available online of it??
http://antilag.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2374
yep sure is
4GTEIT
22-07-2005, 02:46 PM
very nice car indeed!! I dont want a car that is allready been done up however because I would like a car that I know that I have worked hard to get it to its current state to appreciate it more. A stock car with stock wheels with no mods is what I want. Something to expand my knowledge/experience and a little project. I am affraid Zed to me is a completed project. I want something that I know I have worked hard for, not someone who has done the work for me. I can appreciate it more and perhaps others would too knowing that I have done it myself. Hope you understand other than that the ZED is HOT!!!
rotorized
22-07-2005, 02:53 PM
if ur prepared to spend money on a car & fuel & general mantainece
and want sumthing that boots but doesnt run 10's try for a s4 or 5
4GTEIT
22-07-2005, 03:19 PM
Series 4/5 rx7??? or S14/S15 silvia
confuzion
22-07-2005, 04:53 PM
he said s4 not s14 didnt he
HotAe92
22-07-2005, 05:00 PM
well if u sell the rolla, ill have ur rims! :)
4GTEIT
22-07-2005, 05:58 PM
sorry they will be going with the car. the stocko rims are **** condition. I have spent all last weekend painting the back end of the car. So you can see the through the rim and not see dirt and crap, the rims make it look the part so they will be staying.
The Ser 4 RX7 you have is the shape I want. Whats the dif between ser 4 & 5
rotorized
22-07-2005, 06:09 PM
they both look simular i supsoe
s5's have different tail lights, ( bulk s4's have s5 tail lights anyways) & diff front lip
and yeh the motor/turbo is powerfuler
not too many series 5's on the market compared to s4's
oh yeh 10's dont come as easy as you think ay
4GTEIT
22-07-2005, 06:14 PM
how do you find your car? I dont mind doing like small general repairs but not major things everymonth like I am doing!
I have never had a rotary before and am uneducated with those motors. What do you see as a positive and negative about them "rotorized"?
Dan.
rotorized
22-07-2005, 06:19 PM
positive 1- they boot
positvie 2- u'l be a little bit cooler bcoz u will have a rwd instead of fwd
negative 1- fuel
negative 2- if u treat em like **** n dnt warm em up/down it'l brake easier n u'l need a rebuild
4GTEIT
22-07-2005, 06:22 PM
baaahhhhh who cares about fuel! I want a performance car, If i wanted a cheap car to run i would buy a FIAT. as with any car with negative 2. what are the gearboxes like in them?? are they strong?
rotorized
22-07-2005, 06:25 PM
strongish :dunno:
good enough for wot u'd want put it that way
Buy clints zed for ****s sake
Who cares what rims it has, but ones for it that you like
If you base your car purchase on rims your an idiot.
4GTEIT
22-07-2005, 06:32 PM
No. The wheels are staying because It looks better and is more appealing to a buyer hopefully. I realise wheels dont add value to a car. I would buy his zed if its what I wanted. I want something stock that I can turn into a beast, dont want to pass off other peoples great work as my own, that car is bloody awsome but :D
4GTEIT
22-07-2005, 09:45 PM
Found a Nice looking NISSAN 180SX TYPE X ~, 1996, SR20DET Black Top, manual, HD clutch, 3" Apexi exhaust, POD, boost controller, gauge, stiff suspension, strutbrace, LSD, ABS, perfect condition. $17,000 ono
how good is a SR20DET blacktop over the redtop?? the blacktops are 6 speed arnt they?
Skrappy
22-07-2005, 09:53 PM
You have no idea how much money you will save by buying a car that has already been modified.
Some guy last year had 80k worth of reciepts of modifications done to his car, it was a wrx... was advertised on these forums and it sold for something stupid like 35k which was the rough value of the car STOCK.
As much as its fun modifying a car... buying one already modified is so much easier/cheaper and fun. Unless you consider fun arguing with a panel beater because he coloured your skirts the wrong colour or arguing with a mechanic because he charged you $$$ to fit a BOV.
mark089
22-07-2005, 09:58 PM
type x is nice but im pretty sure the only sr20 that came with a 6 speed box was the s15 and i have heard bad things about the s15 gearboxes anyway
4GTEIT
22-07-2005, 10:07 PM
but isnt the blacktop SR a S15? whats a S15 motor from then?
Iandawsonwa
22-07-2005, 10:25 PM
I dont want a car that is allready been done up
man dont be dumb its a lot cheaper and eazyer to buy a car with mods then do them your self, specially if thay come with permits, a lot still can be done and changed on ciff's car.
4GTEIT
22-07-2005, 10:32 PM
I dont mind a few small external mods but major things like what he has done on that car is too much. Dont get me wrong, its an awsome car but I am just not keen on the body shape.
Skrappy
23-07-2005, 02:02 AM
If your not keen on the bodyshape then there are your mods to do. Bodykit/hyundai excel shell for it. That would set you back a few kidneys.
1JZNOSHIT
23-07-2005, 05:55 PM
your better off buying a car with **** done to it. just think of all the money you will have to spend if u buy a stock car.
exhaust
pod
cooler
fuel pump
clutch
suspension
bov
wheels
tint
stereo
and even neons if they tickle your fancy!!
Buying a car with atleast these basics is what you should look for, especially if its well looked after and you dont want another 'money pit'. That 200ZR has all this and more, would be a good purchase I reckon.
suburban
23-07-2005, 06:55 PM
clints is a very nice example, but if you dont like the styling then its obviously not the car for you :)
id rather a car that was stock'ish mechanically, but a car like clints is great cause the body is nice (respray)
wadragracing
24-07-2005, 07:57 PM
I'm not sure if TJ's comment was in jest, but a VL would be a cheap way to go 10s.
VL Turbo anyway! There's a heap in Vic running very quick times, they are probably one of the easiest combinations to get into the 10s.
Of course remember that if you want to do 10s more than once you need a rollcage in WA to race at the Motorplex.
1JZNOSHIT
24-07-2005, 10:49 PM
VLTs are hard to find in half decent condition these days so a rebuild will be first on the cards..... They are a proven 8sec motor in Australia (RB30ET), which not many other turbo motors can claim in a full street trim car.
But of course you wont be running 8s 1/4s anyway, but this is a strong, proven and reliable building block if done right.....
Brockas
24-07-2005, 10:57 PM
You also wont be running 10s either, as you want a daily driver.
Once you get a turbo car you will realise how little peak power actually counts for.
You will be much happier driving a 12sec car on the street everyday, knowing that you have a useable power band.
4GTEIT
24-07-2005, 11:03 PM
yeah, I would be happy with 12's anyway. I have decided ona 96 model 180sx anywayz so only a few months to go.
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