Speed camera in Vans

[kurbn]

Spotted yesterday on the way home

Speed camera setup in the back of a brand new white VW multivan.
http://images-2.drive.com.au/2010/08/20/1812420/Vw-multivan_420_m-360x0.jpg

you can see the red lense area and camera when you drive past through the back window. I then saw it flash at another driver.

not sure how long they have been using these but you've been warned now. They do look a bit out of place on the side of the road so it was pretty easy to spot, even more so than the xtrails.

[Jumanji]

Spotted yesterday on the way home

Speed camera setup in the back of a brand new white VW multivan.
http://images-2.drive.com.au/2010/08/20/1812420/Vw-multivan_420_m-360x0.jpg

you can see the red lense area and camera when you drive past through the back window. I then saw it flash at another driver.



not sure how long they have been using these but you've been warned now. They do look a bit out of place on the side of the road so it was pretty easy to spot, even more so than the xtrails.

I have seen them in the city and in the "North Perth" area set up in WRX's as well.

[TJ]

Setup in WRX's?

Do tell

[HANS YOLO]

easily spotted due to modified rear glass...if you get done by one of these you kinda deserve it as they stand out like a dogs balls

[Jumanji]

Setup in WRX's?

Do tell

Yeah they had one tuesday last week on Woodrow Ave. I was driving past and thought "surely not", but I saw the red lense through the back window and the little box next to it. Plain white new hatchback Wrx.

[TJ]

Considering the need X-Trails and vans to run them currently, how are they squeezing them into a small hatch with a tiny rear window?

[TTZ]

have seen them on the back of X trails and vans for quite a few weeks now, east pde in east perth always has them

[s20525xxx]

R u sure? Maybe just an undercover.

[Mad_Aussie]

I think more people in utes need to be driving around with unsecured loads. Wouldn't it be terrible if a tin of paint fell through the back of one of those vans at 70kph?

[Jumanji]

Considering the need X-Trails and vans to run them currently, how are they squeezing them into a small hatch with a tiny rear window?

I dont know, but it definately was a camera.

[stormtrooper]

Pictures or it didn't happen....

[JBAE]

Yeah they had one tuesday last week on Woodrow Ave. I was driving past and thought "surely not", but I saw the red lense through the back window and the little box next to it. Plain white new hatchback Wrx.

WOW that is such an invitation for a bricking! A WRX and speed camera all in one!

[JBAE]

there actually is a fair bit of room in the POS hatchback new shape Fubarus! used my old shitter to move hosue

[Ryan1080]

Yeah they've been around for almost a year I believe. I prefer those over the usual ones where they hide behind bushes. Easily spotted, I actually like them!

WTF WRX?? Bloody hell! If they can fit it into that, they'll fit it into anything, that will make it harder to spot :(

[Jumanji]

Pictures or it didn't happen....

Next one you see drive past 10k over. See if it flashes. Personally wouldnt want to take the chance. It had the red square with camera in it and all

[dmwill]

WTF WRX?? Bloody hell! If they can fit it into that, they'll fit it into anything, that will make it harder to spot :(

Still easier to spot a late model car/van/4WD parked on the side of the road.

Having said that, I have seen a few of the vans setup behind bushes facing oncoming traffic (reverse facing camera).

[Crispymk2]

XTrail with camera tucked in the back last night on Canning Hwy heading West up the hill before Stock rd. Was all contained in the rear compartment, a lot easier to spot than the normal setup of just a camera and the XTrail tucked in the bushes.

Boost was hit after passing.

[JBAE]

Upside is im assuming these incar mounted fcukkers are only one directional?

[Fukushima]

XTrail with camera tucked in the back last night on Canning Hwy heading West up the hill before Stock rd. Was all contained in the rear compartment, a lot easier to spot than the normal setup of just a camera and the XTrail tucked in the bushes.

Boost was hit after passing.

yeah I've recently seen it in between north lake road and risely street heading east. Sneaky fucker parked it in behind a bus stop and set up rear facing

Just remember the rear facing ones can get you quite a way up the road, so stick to the limit till it is out of sight :-)

[kurbn]

Just spotted install of another fixed camera on riverside drive at the lights before victoria st

[mischief1]

Spotted one in the back of a CRV the other day, was that grey/brown colour.

Pretty much suspicious of all late model cars on the side of the road now.

[Phyber]

+1 on Honda CRV. Saw one on Toodyay Rd a month ago.

[Joe]

I find it hilarious that the speed cameras are setup in Volkswagens on Woodrow Ave Yokine.. not only are the cameras making the Jews a bit nervous, but so is the brand of the vehicle.

[ForgedV6]

Seen three of the fuckers on Ocean Reef Rd between the Freeway and Wanneroo road in the last few weeks. All X-Trails.

[TJ]

I find it hilarious that the speed cameras are setup in Volkswagens on Woodrow Ave Yokine.. not only are the cameras making the Jews a bit nervous, but so is the brand of the vehicle.

Why?

They dont mind German automobiles, just dont mention the war

[ReaperSS]

wont be long before Perth police make this sneaky move....

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[TTZ]

an New York taxi would stick out like dogs balls in Perth though

[Mad_Aussie]

an New York taxi would stick out like dogs balls in Perth though

LOL

Like fuck I'd stop for a taxi flashing strobes though. They could follow me all the way to a cop shop if they really wanted to.

[ForgedV6]

I had a dream that they introduced mobile vans with speed cameras. So, for example they set cruise control at 100 on the freeway and if you are driving past him to fast...FLASH!

[HANS YOLO]

I find it hilarious that the speed cameras are setup in Volkswagens on Woodrow Ave Yokine.. not only are the cameras making the Jews a bit nervous, but so is the brand of the vehicle.

How do you fit 100 Jews in a VW?

Use the ashtray


*not cool, sorry Jews!

[Fukushima]

How do you fit 100 Jews in a VW?

Use the ashtray


*not cool, sorry Jews!


And just how would you fit 240kg of ashes and pulvarised bone into a VW ashtray?

Need to use the boot as well!

[Mad_Aussie]

And just how would you fit 240kg of ashes and pulvarised bone into a VW ashtray?

Need to use the boot as well!

You and your science.... Tttsh.

[dmwill]

I had a dream that they introduced mobile vans with speed cameras. So, for example they set cruise control at 100 on the freeway and if you are driving past him to fast...FLASH!

In theory, it could work considering police have dash mounted radars/lasers.

[Gleeso]

In theory, it could work considering police have dash mounted radars/lasers.

Dont throwing positive ideas towards that, piggies troll this site do they not? Theyre gonna steal that idea! Shhhhh

Lol at Jew joke.

[Jumanji]

I find it hilarious that the speed cameras are setup in Volkswagens on Woodrow Ave Yokine.. not only are the cameras making the Jews a bit nervous, but so is the brand of the vehicle.

HAHAHA, I go home that way every day and people sit atleast 10kph over all the time.

[kurbn]

Just spotted another transporter on leach near high road. So easy to spot

[sdwz180]

Are they still required to place a notice board/sign saying you have passed a speed camera?

[Crispymk2]

Are they still required to place a notice board/sign saying you have passed a speed camera?

nope

[sdwz180]

So that would apply to the new spec multanova cameras too then because I havent seen one of those signs since they phased out the old ones.

[ruler]

I love how they still try to hide these hahah

[BOSS 290]

So, I wonder if the Police have factored in Snell's Law when operating Lidar camera's behind the glass or perspect screens? I bet they haven't. I'm certain someone will challenge a Lidar ticket from a camera operated from within one of these vehicles mentioned.

[S_E]

Spotted one of the X-Trails on Marmion av near Whitford City the other day parked in the cycle/emergency lane, kinda dangerous really, I wouldn't be real impressed if I was riding in the lane then had to get into the car lane (this is peak hr mind you) to get around it..

[Tre-Cool]

just do what some pingpingpingping did to ross, throw a ball bearing through the back window.

it'll be off the road while they replace the window.

im sure one you clever fucks could work out a way to use your blow off valve air to blow into a tube containing said bb.

[2jzlux]

So if they are using a wrx hatchback to take photos from would i be correct in thinking that they couldnt have a rear demister on the window and therefore are unroadworthy?

[Nic_A31]

Since when was having a rear demister a necessity for a vehicle to be roadworthy?

[Jiblet]

since you wouldn't be able to see if the window fogged up, creating a hazard.

interesting point that...

[Lozzle]

There's one at the end of the tunnel today, on your left as you exit heading westbound.

[dmwill]

Spotted one of the Xtrails among all the parked cars at Karrakatta Cemetery this morning. Very cheeky.

[MX5]

The old multinovas had to be carefully positioned at a correct angle to the road, I wonder if the new laser units are as fussy i've seen the vans at all angles to the road, also wonder if each unit is calibrated for the glass/tint used in each vehicle or if they popo are using a "suck it and see" approach to scientific measurement.

Apparently speed camera operators don't need to display the speed camera sign if it's unsafe to do so ie. side of busy freeway.

The other day a camera operator placed his camera behind the bus stop outside Corpus on Murdoch Drive then backed the van up the hill behind trees in the park. If it's safe for the operator to place the camera near the road side then it was obviously safe enough to place a sign. I love when the set camera at school zones instead of safe sections of road but the camera and/or sign is meant to be a visual deterrent to slow down speeding drivers, if they can't see either than the camera is purely revenue raising.

[4AGE Sedan]

I don't have any pics to back this up, but I have seen lidar multinova's in the back of VE station-wagons. There are two that frequent the Scarborough beach/Doubleview area, a white one and a blue one.

[blackjack]

Went past an Xtrail on Alexander drive heading towards Gnagara, night before last. I saw the camera in the back but did not see a flash. No flash= no fine or ??

[satch]

New ones dont flash.

[TJ]

I thought they still do at night?

[SircatmaN]

It might just be me but I fucking hate these new non flash cameras. Atleast when it flashed you were like OH FUCK and slowed down. Atleast in some small way it was contributing to slowing you down even for 5-10 minutes, but with these new ones you don't even notice. You just get a fine in the mail and your like WTF? I don't remember speeding. Also atleast when they flashed you could look at your speed, if you WEREN't speeding you could note time and place and your speed etc. Now you have no clue. It is simply a grab for cash, it in no way slows anyone down whatsoever.

[blackjack]

I hope you are correct TJ otherwise I'm going to have to get my pushbike out of the shed. I guess I'll know in a few months or however long they take these days. Hopefully Mr Plod doesn't come visit- that'll teach me for blowing the cobwebs out of the daily.

[fourseven]

Flash depends on whether the camera is using the IR setup.

You'll know soon enough.

[JT3]

Ah dammit. I thought they all still flashed white in the daytime and red at night :( I may have not gotten away (not sure if I was going a few kms over or not) yesterday.

[Tom]

I thought even the new IR setups had a yellow flash at night?

[Yakky Bear]

nope as fourseven said, depends on the setup. ive been done by both at night, flash & no flash.

[shifted]

Think I got done last night, no flash but could see a small red light go off at other cars behind me - unless I'm seeing shit??

[ProJRad]

They are making speed camera vans, now with ladders, conduit and plumbing stuff on it so it looks like a common tradies van on the side of the road, but bam you get a big flash from the back when you speed past, Just keep your eyes peeled, even though the vans have items tied onto roof racks, or signage on it, W.A police are being very sneaky with it now. Just a heads up i saw a Tradie Speed Camera Van today in murdoch, Wasn't Speeding :)

[Mad_Aussie]

Tradie van might need some tradie damage - tins of paint occasionally fall from the back of work vehicles. It would be a shame if one hit a parked van on the side of the road.

[DRKWRX]

these cameras can get that fast shutterspeed at night with no flash? id be keen to see proof!

[Stealthed]

They are making speed camera vans, now with ladders, conduit and plumbing stuff on it so it looks like a common tradies van on the side of the road, but bam you get a big flash from the back when you speed past, Just keep your eyes peeled, even though the vans have items tied onto roof racks, or signage on it, W.A police are being very sneaky with it now. Just a heads up i saw a Tradie Speed Camera Van today in murdoch, Wasn't Speeding :)

Clearly trying to reduce speeding with a tradie van that has a speed camera with no flash. Revenue raising? gtfo

[volt_bite]

Spotted one at the traffic lights along alexander road just coming out of maccas the yesterday =/

[fourseven]

these cameras can get that fast shutterspeed at night with no flash? id be keen to see proof!

It does flash, you just can't see it. From the Vitronic user manual:


The images captured by the PoliScan camera module are processed by VITRONIC’s ALPR software package for the identification of multinational number plates. The infrared illumination of the systems allows day and night operations of the system. The infrared flash is invisible for the human eye and does not cause any driver distraction.

[Oversteer]

IR Flash... its there but you can`t see it !

[mr_mike]

drive round with them orange/reddish glasses u used to get for lookin at lasers?

[Fukushima]

Buy a radar detector... $80 gum tree spec units will pick up the laser so at least you know where they are hiding them

I really must get around to turning off K band though

[Madhav]

Buy a radar detector... $80 gum tree spec units will pick up the laser so at least you know where they are hiding them

I really must get around to turning off K band though

I agree, I would have lost my license 3 x over by now if it wasn't for my detector

And yes, that fucking k band just doesn't shut up.

[XF Falcon]

So we all just need lots of IR LED's pointing out the front of our car, or pointed at the licence plates to overexpose the photo's at night time?
As for the daytime, well we're screwed :)

[JT3]

K band pissed me off too as I drive by too many shopping centres etc. with those automatic doors, but I kept mine on just in case.


So we all just need lots of IR LED's pointing out the front of our car, or pointed at the licence plates to overexpose the photo's at night time?
As for the daytime, well we're screwed :)

Ahahaha that's a smart idea! There are always those number plate flippers that have been around for a while if anyone wanted to get those, but it's kind of pointless in this situation...

[crabman]

Any way of running high powered ir globes in driving lights to wash out/ruin photo's???

[Yakky Bear]

they only use IR sometimes so its a 50/50 chance.

[-Luke-]

Any way of running high powered ir globes in driving lights to wash out/ruin photo's???

Could we use a

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii201/lukehidderley/laser.jpg

Laser





Allan Parsons Project etc etc

[Macca]

few taxi drivers reckon putting i reflector on number plate works....meh its all tinfoil shit if u ask me

[ProJRad]

Perhaps dont speed HaHa, or just put a Chinese takeaway menu over the plate, maybe the cops will order some food when they get the photo of the car's plate :P

[Sciflyer]

So all speed detecting units currently in use by the police are laser-based? So K and Ka band can be turned off in detectors now?

[MX5]

I think the country cops still have side mount radars.

Still waiting for someone to drive a carbie shitter around EMP'ing the cameras.

[fourseven]

No there are still older multanovas out there (Ka) and some traffic cars in regional areas are using old dash mounted radar (K).

[satch]

No there are still older multanovas out there (Ka) and some traffic cars in regional areas are using old dash mounted radar (K).

This! Do not turn either K or Ka off, just turn X and pop off for now.

Better still invest in a laser jammer. From experience laser detectors are shit, general warning is next to nothing, Even V1 that is suppose to be the best on laser is late at picking up the new cameras, and forget about guns, your done when you get the warning.

[Sciflyer]

I drive 100km a day to/from work from the hills right across the city and could count on one hand the number of cameras ive seen in the past 6 months

Ever since the old multanovas started to be replaced there has been almost nothing? Hence me wondering if there are no more non-laser devices around

And it isnt because im just not spotting them as the V1 wouldve picked them up, and my letter box has remained free from fines (touch wood)

[mr_mike]

So we all just need lots of IR LED's pointing out the front of our car, or pointed at the licence plates to overexpose the photo's at night time?
As for the daytime, well we're screwed :)

"Apparently" the Toyota factory parking sensors work on the same wavelength or what ever it is and having them on the front of ur vehicle will jam the laser for a second giving u a slight chance in slowing b4 ur pinged.

not 100% sure on the details but there is a perth run website with all the info and kits on it.

[BOSS 290]

Some laser jammers are marketed as parking sensors. They coincidentally operate on the same wavelengh of 904nm which is the same as laser camera's and hand held laser guns.

The benefit of WAPol operating the Vitronic device is that it is easy to jam.

[mr top hat]

I had a dream that they introduced mobile vans with speed cameras. So, for example they set cruise control at 100 on the freeway and if you are driving past him to fast...FLASH!


In theory, it could work considering police have dash mounted radars/lasers.


Dont throwing positive ideas towards that, piggies troll this site do they not? Theyre gonna steal that idea! Shhhhh

Lol at Jew joke.

Great one, you pingpingping's have given the cops another idea.....

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/newshome/12744124/video-blitz-on-drivers/

[Phyber]

I remember that article being discussed previously, we're too late.

[Jiblet]

Great one, you pingpingping's have given the cops another idea.....

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/newshome/12744124/video-blitz-on-drivers/
I wonder if they will be more lenient on lower range speeding (i.e. <9km/h over)?
(Since my cars have speedos which operate on "this is approximately your speed", don't have the liberty of an accurate digital speedo and have no cruise control)

[VRX]

Some laser jammers are marketed as parking sensors. They coincidentally operate on the same wavelengh of 904nm which is the same as laser camera's and hand held laser guns.

The benefit of WAPol operating the Vitronic device is that it is easy to jam.

The jammer i think you're referring to alerts to the laser but cannot jam the Vitronic Poliscan as the manufacturer never provided a software update to defeat the Poliscan,from what i've read in the past this was due to this Jammer manufacturer getting all it's software from another well known manufacturer,at some point before the Poliscan was released they decided to no longer share there software updates with the parking sensor based jammer company so they were left high and dry.

Even the jammers that can defeat the Poliscan are having a really hard time consistently jamming them from the rear even with 2 heads placed at 30degrees and 2 at 45degrees.

[fourseven]

My experience with the Blinders has been perfect, front and rear.

[matt_in_perth]

The benefit of WAPol operating the Vitronic device is that it is easy to jam.

Wish that was true but far from it I'm afraid. The problem with the Vitronics Poliscan is offaxis detection, the laser is scanning horizontally constantly, the algorithm is so advanced that even a scan from the rear side of your car it can calculate your speed, only 10 samples are required 10 speed samples (that take 0.1 sec) and a fine in the mail. There are people on radar detector.net forum with jammers that have had a fine in the post also with 4 heads on the back at different angles, laser veil on number plate lights etc to minimise there IR signature and still have been fined.

[pgc]

Slightly off topic, but I swear I a helmet-mounted radar on a cop bike today. He was quite obviously fixating his head on each car coming past (in a roadworks zone) and there was something attached to the left-side of his helmet.

Anyone else seen something similar, or heard of it?

[Yakky Bear]

Wish that was true but far from it I'm afraid. The problem with the Vitronics Poliscan is offaxis detection, the laser is scanning horizontally constantly, the algorithm is so advanced that even a scan from the rear side of your car it can calculate your speed, only 10 samples are required 10 speed samples (that take 0.1 sec) and a fine in the mail. There are people on radar detector.net forum with jammers that have had a fine in the post also with 4 heads on the back at different angles, laser veil on number plate lights etc to minimise there IR signature and still have been fined.

you seem to know alot about these, happen to operate one?

[RELEASE]

Slightly off topic, but I swear I a helmet-mounted radar on a cop bike today. He was quite obviously fixating his head on each car coming past (in a roadworks zone) and there was something attached to the left-side of his helmet.

Anyone else seen something similar, or heard of it?Robocop is alive?!? Lol

[satch]

Sure just not a camera ?

[pgc]

Sure just not a camera ?

It could have been, but why would he point it at each car going past?

[VRX]

It could have been, but why would he point it at each car going past?

Registration recognition system??

[pgc]

Ah yes, didn't think of that.

[matt_in_perth]

you seem to know alot about these, happen to operate one?

Sorry Yakky Bear, just saw you post - havn't been on the forum in a time.
No - just seen the operator manual and researched speed detection countermeasures for the last 20 years as an interest.

[Missile]

Wonder if there is any truth in this; it popped up on my bookface today.

http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/547900_483346278387908_1077386202_n.jpg

[huggy_b]

It's just some bloke on the side of the road. Not a camera.

[fourseven]

LOL, unless they've invented a machine to shrink the measurement device and camera, what huggy said.

[eaglesfandavid]

Sort of related saw a speed camera Nissan X-trail 'disguised' as a civilian car by one of those roof cargo capsules, lucky i am suspisious of every X-trail and slowed down anyway :p

[Fukushima]

in other news I picked up a K band signal driving to wylie the other week, sure enough it was a police car but he was busy booking a local :D

...i also had the cruise control set to the ultra badass speed of 110 but whatever

[Grug]

Lmao, that picture is of a friend of a friend of mine. Said he pulled over to tighten the straps.

[Phyber]

Grug is a cop, get him!!

[dmwill]

in other news I picked up a K band signal driving to wylie the other week, sure enough it was a police car but he was busy booking a local :D

Been picking up a fair few K bands lately on major roads...usually see an unmarked Falcon or one of those "super high tech" marked cars pass by several hundred meters later.

[_S9_]

Lmao, that picture is of a friend of a friend of mine. Said he pulled over to tighten the straps.

in a high-vis vest?

pingpingpingpings' posing as a cop for sure

[_S9_]

Like those losers that put pursuit rims and 3 aerials on their commodores. small penises.

[Fozzy]

Lol works at the airport. Part of the dudes uniform? Maybe he was going kayaking otw home.

[Grug]

Yeh, he wears a high-vis vest for work.

[Doctor Chimargo the Dog]

Or just run no plates