View Full Version : The elephant in the room FINALLY singled out.
Mad_Aussie
03-10-2011, 05:04 PM
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/wa/10385601/police-chief-says-face-up-to-aboriginal-crime/
Police Commissioner Karl O'Callaghan has singled out Aboriginal youths as among the primary culprits for property crime in WA, saying their offending was an "elephant in the room" that people were reluctant to talk about.
In an opinion piece in The West Australian , Mr O'Callaghan cites statistics that show more than half of burglaries are committed by juveniles and 61 per cent of those juveniles are male Aboriginals.
I can't believe it's taken so many years for them to finally say what everyone has been thinking.
RICEY
03-10-2011, 05:08 PM
Now to convince the majority that culling is a good idea.
Tocchi
03-10-2011, 05:14 PM
^^ blaaa, we'll miss your limestone block eating antics
shifted
03-10-2011, 05:28 PM
Saw this today too was thinking finallllyyyyyy!!
Though really, heaps of whitey's doing the same...
Tothi khunt trust me! the day they approved a liscence to cull noongs id be punching on to make the front of the Que! but fuck yeh good on the pingpingpingping! no doubt there will be a back lash on him from the bleeding hearts! good to see him stepping up to the plate and pointing the bone!
mr_mike
03-10-2011, 05:37 PM
thing is now aboriginal and equal rights groups are already firing up about the comments saying its unfair the single out offenders based on their race/skin colour.
Gleeso
03-10-2011, 05:37 PM
About time. I see so many young coons near my work ALL the time throwing rocks at cars, yelling at people etc..A solution of dropping them in the bushes wouldnt work either as they know how to get out. Culling must indeed go forth.
Gleeso
03-10-2011, 05:39 PM
thing is now aboriginal and equal rights groups are already firing up about the comments saying its unfair the single out offenders based on their race/skin colour.
I hate this. Its fucking true, pingpingpingpings should deal with it.
Buckets
03-10-2011, 05:53 PM
At fucking last ! If you think they are bad in Perth go see how they behave in Newman or Meekatharra ect, the annoying thing is they all have shitload of cash and don't need to steal anything (BHP pay around 40k per head royalty to a local community just for Area C and other companies also fork over similar amounts for their operations) I'll give FMG and Andrew Forrest his dues for telling them they won't get huge cash hand outs from his company !!!
duste
03-10-2011, 05:56 PM
About time. I see so many young coons near my work ALL the time throwing rocks at cars, yelling at people etc..A solution of dropping them in the bushes wouldnt work either as they know how to get out. Culling must indeed go forth.
Doubtful. The majority of aboriginals that commit these crimes are what I would term "city" aboriginals - they've been brought up in Perth, living off Centrelink with having absolutely no knowledge of the bush. Throw them in the bush and they'd starve to death because there would be no government body giving them hand-outs.
I'll give FMG and Andrew Forrest his dues for telling them they won't get huge cash hand outs from his company !!!
That's because Andrew Forrest is a cheap pingpingpingping - his accounts with our lab have gone ~9 months without payment at times.
I'll give FMG and Andrew Forrest his dues for telling them they won't get huge cash hand outs from his company !!! Thing is with forrest he knows how the pingpingpingpings function having grown up/lived around them ect, (the forrests were our neighbours when my family owned our sheep station up north) hes not some naive city fucker that will have the wool pulled over his eyes
R31 POWER
03-10-2011, 05:59 PM
Im failing to see the problem unless the statistics are wrong. If it is true, it's not being racist but fact.
Brockas
03-10-2011, 06:08 PM
Exactly. Statistics aren't racist.
Over 30% of all burglaries are committed by aboriginal juveniles. Fact.
dmwill
03-10-2011, 06:09 PM
Now to convince the majority that culling is a good idea.
I reckon if the Dutch invaded Australia before the Brits, they would have got rid of the lot.
They are in this country!
gazza750
03-10-2011, 06:12 PM
Throw the little pricks in the middle of the Simpson Desert with a 44 gallon drum of unleaded and let them sniff themselves to death
Exactly. Statistics aren't racist.
Over 30% of all burglaries are committed by aboriginal juveniles. Fact.
Agreed
So lets stick to facts and take your simple minded racism elsewhere. (Not you Paul)
Passage GT
03-10-2011, 06:56 PM
At fucking last ! If you think they are bad in Perth go see how they behave in Newman or Meekatharra ect, the annoying thing is they all have shitload of cash and don't need to steal anything (BHP pay around 40k per head royalty to a local community just for Area C and other companies also fork over similar amounts for their operations) I'll give FMG and Andrew Forrest his dues for telling them they won't get huge cash hand outs from his company !!!
soo true, they always speak about how many aren't working etc, just sit home drinking piss all day and all night, well when you have enough money handed to you to buy brand new landcruisers, patrols, pajeros, ss commodores, clubsports, statesmans etc
why the fuck would you work?
it's a vicious cycle with no end in sight, aboriginal groups are constantly signing new deals with mining companies guaranteeing them huge payouts over a period of time.
but still the bastards steal shit!
basically at night they walk down the street looking for cars and houses that aren't locked up and take what they like.
i must admit there are more than a few that work up here and they're good people, they're clean, earn their money and look after their families and good to have a beer with, but they're in the minority.
c4fgt
03-10-2011, 06:57 PM
Channel 7 reported his comments just after the leading news story in which a bunch of 'people' threw a bottle at a taxi and then bashed the driver when he stopped... Attackers were described as 'dark skinned'
Agreed
So lets stick to facts and take your simple minded racism elsewhere. (Not you Paul)
nothing simple minded about it TJ...
scottiedoesntn0
03-10-2011, 07:09 PM
LOL,
Coons on the abc just now
"we are being villified." etc etc
Usual abo spokesman bullshit.
If it were Indo's or afghan's or Somalis doing this they'd cop a deporting.
Cant see why more people arent keen on kicking scum boongs back out to the bush to learn the hard way without payments.
its because they are our countrys little historical "whoopsie" part of our past that well we are embarrased about and its ALLOWED to play out to this day fair enough they copped a raw deal back in the day and some fucking horrible things happend at the time (although a complete genocide wouldnt have been a bad thing ;D) they are still beating that hard done by drum very hard! and its pingpingpingpings that now days it has no bearing on.
If they shut that down they will learn over time you would hope to lift there game HOWEVER i beleive youd have more chance training a half dead dog.
You give ANY other race the head start they have had and still get these days and theres a good chance something good may come from it they have no excuses for how a good portion of their race act and behave.
i dont give a fuck how small minded it seems i have no issues with any other race but these pingpingpingpings ive grown up with and around them and their crap and have good reason to be as hateful as i am.
would rather have boat people and ye olde hated muslims than these asshats.
dmwill
03-10-2011, 07:18 PM
Channel 7 reported his comments just after the leading news story in which a bunch of 'people' threw a bottle at a taxi and then bashed the driver when he stopped... Attackers were described as 'dark skinned'
Political correctness bullshit. The moment the media mentions "Aboriginal" in a negative story, all the legal/rights groups go nuts.
Adr3naL1N
03-10-2011, 07:27 PM
limit 1 kid per indigenous woman instead of the 9354 each woman seems to push out. Too many carnts.
Less welfare being claimed, less tax payer money wasted on the scum
limit 1 kid per indigenous woman instead of the 9354 each woman seems to push out. Too many carnts.
Less welfare being claimed, less tax payer money wasted on the scum
Totally agree with you on that one. Hasn't this been a law in China now for some time? Coon down the road just shoved one out and now it's preggers again so that will be 3 probably under 3.
Maybe once one is born, they must be sterilised by law. I hate these people (if you want to call them that), with a passion. They do no good at all, never will and always complain that they're singled out. They're singled out for a good reason as statistics show and it's taken this long for someone in high places to finally say it.
Having said that though, there is a small minority that i have worked with up north that are very nice people.
Adr3naL1N
03-10-2011, 07:55 PM
fuck id support even limiting it to 2 or 3. They push out more and more kids so they can claim more welfare. The problems is the allowance they get for each kid they just go piss it up on a carton of vb etc then putting it where its needed, in education for the kid etc. This is why they end up on the streets, assaulting people and robbing houses/stores!
China has it for different reasons, because the whole places is over crowded. They literally cant afford any larger population. We need to do it to limit crime/incorrect use of welfare money.
Agreed with comments about how abos and equal rights group and any other softcocks with their panties up their vaginas are gonna ark up and say this is all racist and unfair targetting. I say FUCK YOU and read the fucking Stats pingpingpingpings!! As has been said they dont lie!!!
simple give the fuckheads FOOD VOUCHERS plain and simple! vouchers for education not hard currency! the outcry for that would be huge too though
duste
03-10-2011, 08:07 PM
^ "WE'RE HAVING OUR FREEDOM STRIPPED FROM US!!!"
Marti
03-10-2011, 08:30 PM
I'm no racist but I'm glad someone in a position of authority had the stones to stand up and say it like it is
IMO we are overcrowded with coons and can't afford a larger population of them so therefore one child policy would work haha
ryanr32
03-10-2011, 09:25 PM
Isn't it only something like 2% of the population are aboriginal but they are the highest contributors to crime and clogging up the prison and welfare system. I bet 99% of them don't even know what happened with the whole stolen generation issue but they are still being hard done by
Yakky Bear
03-10-2011, 09:35 PM
if its not aboriginals its those fuckin fire jumpers.. they are just as bad..alot of white south africans i speak to through work say they left south africa because of the blacks.
duste
03-10-2011, 09:57 PM
if its not aboriginals its those fuckin fire jumpers.. they are just as bad..alot of white south africans i speak to through work say they left south africa because of the blacks.
This is true, but the brutality over there towards black Africans is disgusting, so they somewhat have a reason to act up.
Here? We do NOTHING to aboriginals, we give them pretty much ANYTHING they want.
crabman
03-10-2011, 10:07 PM
Kinda linked to mad Aussies idol, Mr Bolt getting charged with breaching an antidiscimination law for talking about multicultrualism and how white aboriginals need to perhaps stop claiming the status for a free ride. Shows that, still, at the very highest there is a fear that will not put them down to being on a level playing field.
I thought that dick head Krudd saying "sorry", which never should have happened, was supposed to bring in a new age where the pingpingpingpings would start to find out what earning a real living is about. Havnt seen a single change yet unfortunately.
Need to say bye bye to the cash, tell the people that whinge about it to "shut the fuck up, grow up and welcome to the real world of working a full time job to pay for lifes little extra's" and hold true to the change. I dont see that happen before I die though
ryanr32
03-10-2011, 10:13 PM
If you took all the benefits and free shit we give them away then all of them would be stealing and breaking into houses instead of the majority of them doing it
SSICK
03-10-2011, 10:27 PM
kinda OT here but:
i live in Success, fair few half breeds getting around and lots of pure breds, i witnessed yesterday arvo a 'assuming' drunk mother in the passenger seat of a VS Sedan, letting her ~8 yo son drive the car down Wentworth Pde......he was doing 40kmh and bouncing it off the kerb and across to the medium strip for 200m. I say she was drunk as she looked out of it as i passed when he stopped to turn into a street. I feel sorry for the young kids.....they have no hope with degenerate parents.
* a bloke in a hilux cut them off and jumped out. hopefully ripping the mothers arms off and beating her with the soggy ends.
Ph03NiX
03-10-2011, 11:01 PM
why not just cut them (and whoever else is on centerlink) off from payments after a certain number of years? FORCE them to get a job?
rucker_
03-10-2011, 11:18 PM
If we actually just rounded them all up, put them in an underground bunker. Then closed the lid permanatly.
Australia would actually be so much fucking better. And EVERYONE knows that.
1JZVL
04-10-2011, 01:11 AM
letting her ~8 yo son drive the car down Wentworth Pde......
errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
That is so fucked up.
I'd rather our tax money go to elderly or sick people etc and less on certain people. They deserve shit. They are given the same chance as everybody else, a small percentage do something good and the others who are given the same things fuck it up and do dodgy shit and chuck boondies at cars and break into houses, oh and steal cars as well!
winstor
04-10-2011, 01:12 AM
Isn't it only something like 2% of the population are aboriginal but they are the highest contributors to crime.
This.
I think it was mentioned that 61% of home invasions are by Aboriginal males. 2% of the population commiting 61% of home invasions.....
shifted
04-10-2011, 07:39 AM
errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
That is so fucked up.
I'd rather our tax money go to elderly or sick people etc and less on certain people. They deserve shit. They are given the same chance as everybody else, a small percentage do something good and the others who are given the same things fuck it up and do dodgy shit and chuck boondies at cars and break into houses, oh and steal cars as well!
Should go to pensioners, people that actually paid their taxes their whole working life and deserve a helping hand for the later years.
ben351
04-10-2011, 08:15 AM
Exactly. Statistics aren't racist.
Over 30% of all burglaries are committed by aboriginal juveniles. Fact.
Agreed.
All old mate did was state some facts ... now if the noongs dont like it ... then instead of whinging at The Commish and calling him racist and saying he is promoting racial hate ... keep your coon teenage kid off the streets at night and in school and help lower the stats.
aussievr4
04-10-2011, 08:59 AM
I think another stolen generation is needed. What chance do the kids have growing up in that environment. Give the kids to a decent family and that kid will have alot better chance of turning out normal. Same goes for white trash familys...if you arent responsible enough to be a parent you shouldnt be allowed to have kids.
Jumanji
04-10-2011, 09:04 AM
Im not racist, I just dont believe we should be supporting people who have been here for tens of thousands of years and are one of the oldest people in the world and didnt even invent the wheel.
sami_
04-10-2011, 09:09 AM
If we actually just rounded them all up, put them in an underground bunker. Then closed the lid permanatly.
Australia would actually be so much fucking better. And EVERYONE knows that.
qft
also, waiting for the day when a reporter says/prints "the attackers have been described as aboriginal"...
skinkis
04-10-2011, 09:13 AM
Im not racist, I just dont believe we should be supporting people who have been here for tens of thousands of years and are one of the oldest people in the world and didnt even invent the wheel.
Thatīs not actually true, the Aboriginals have made heaps of cool inventions or "advancements".
-A long stick (spear)
-A curved stick (boomerang)
-A hollow stick (digeridoo)
etc.
I base my facts from http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Aboriginal
:D
crabman
04-10-2011, 10:09 AM
Should go to pensioners, people that actually paid their taxes their whole working life and deserve a helping hand for the later years.
So fucking true. Its actually disturbing that degenerates get given so much more than these people.
Im not racist, I just dont believe we should be supporting people who have been here for tens of thousands of years and are one of the oldest people in the world and didnt even invent the wheel.
Also incredibly fucking true, the most primitive nomadic race that simply raped the land then moved on over and over that invented nothing good and actually showed no signs of developing.
I have the feeling the boomerang came with them from which over land mass they migrated from how ever many millions of years ago. Only the ancient egyptians were smart enough to come up with something like that.
lol i drove past an aboriginal dude passed out, half on the road, on my way into freo last night - cops drove past and did a u turn
+1 for food stamps
Mad_Aussie
04-10-2011, 10:25 AM
Thatīs not actually true, the Aboriginals have made heaps of cool inventions or "advancements".
-A long stick (spear)
-A curved stick (boomerang)
-A hollow stick (digeridoo)
etc.
I base my facts from http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Aboriginal
:D
You're missing the fact that they also learned how to chew up mud, and spit it on their hands
http://www.diamondspirit.net/adunk/WhiteHands.jpg
They still do it today. Except they don't chew mud, they just spit. And not on their hands, just in your face.
coFF33
04-10-2011, 10:33 AM
Im not racist, I just dont believe we should be supporting people who have been here for tens of thousands of years and are one of the oldest people in the world and didnt even invent the wheel.
Thatīs not actually true, the Aboriginals have made heaps of cool inventions or "advancements".
-A long stick (spear)
-A curved stick (boomerang)
-A hollow stick (digeridoo)
etc.
I base my facts from http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Aboriginal
:D
When the topic gets brought up about muslims and boat people. Either at a bar / get - together at a mates / wherever .... i always bring up the fact that if you let the muslims and hindus and what not out of their minimum security prison up north, im sure as fuck that MOST of them will attempt to find a home, a job and even raise their kids. Although they may not conform to Aussie Pride bogan status, they will at least teach their kids values wether it be their religious values, or at least to goto school and to respect others and their family, although some which are VERY different to Australians. But at LEAST they will try and live in our country. Pretty sure they invented a wheel back in the day too. And even more.
I will always bring up the fact boongs havent invented anything other than a stick, and some pre primary spec shit ass drawings on cave walls that were probably the same as the cavemen and women in like 10,000 bc or whatever.
Boongs are the scum of scum. They need to be removed as a race.
end of story.
ForgedV6
04-10-2011, 10:37 AM
Im not racist! I have a colour TV!
Everyone is racist.
Someone above mentioned food vouchers? DCP provide low income, financially struggling families food vouchers. Its the same deal for an aboriginal family or white family. DCP have introduced 'Voluntary and involuntary income management' for aboriginals and white families. This means their C/link income is not provided directly to them, it gets split between portions such as, food, medical, education & rent payments.
A few people mentioned this above, its already occurring and there was an uproar against it when introduced but the need for it outweighed the advocates of equaly rights.
IMO, its still not enough, capping the amount of children is good idea but that would be so hard to pass. As it stands and aboriginal family will received the same benefits as a white/sudanese family when a child is born.
RELEASE
04-10-2011, 11:00 AM
This country has been fucked for a while and will get worse. the bleeding hearts/do gooders are making it pathetic.
whether its aboriginal rights, hoon laws, single parents/child support, immigration, general law, etc its all a shamble
duste
04-10-2011, 11:01 AM
When the topic gets brought up about muslims and boat people. Either at a bar / get - together at a mates / wherever .... i always bring up the fact that if you let the muslims and hindus and what not out of their minimum security prison up north, im sure as fuck that MOST of them will attempt to find a home, a job and even raise their kids. Although they may not conform to Aussie Pride bogan status, they will at least teach their kids values wether it be their religious values, or at least to goto school and to respect others and their family, although some which are VERY different to Australians. But at LEAST they will try and live in our country. Pretty sure they invented a wheel back in the day too. And even more.
I will always bring up the fact boongs havent invented anything other than a stick, and some pre primary spec shit ass drawings on cave walls that were probably the same as the cavemen and women in like 10,000 bc or whatever.
Boongs are the scum of scum. They need to be removed as a race.
end of story.
QFT, I say the exact same.
Exactly. Statistics aren't racist.
Over 30% of all burglaries are committed by aboriginal juveniles. Fact.
So who accounts for the other 70% and by far the majority?? Whites?
Daisy
04-10-2011, 01:42 PM
no, adult boongs.
When the topic gets brought up about muslims and boat people. Either at a bar / get - together at a mates / wherever .... i always bring up the fact that if you let the muslims and hindus and what not out of their minimum security prison up north, im sure as fuck that MOST of them will attempt to find a home, a job and even raise their kids. Although they may not conform to Aussie Pride bogan status, they will at least teach their kids values wether it be their religious values, or at least to goto school and to respect others and their family, although some which are VERY different to Australians. But at LEAST they will try and live in our country. Pretty sure they invented a wheel back in the day too. And even more.
I will always bring up the fact boongs havent invented anything other than a stick, and some pre primary spec shit ass drawings on cave walls that were probably the same as the cavemen and women in like 10,000 bc or whatever.
Boongs are the scum of scum. They need to be removed as a race.
end of story.
+1 Top Quote there!
Invented a stick...!! LMAO !!!
Brett_J
04-10-2011, 01:56 PM
I'd happily trade a boatload of imports clinging to a shitty vessel that ARE willing to work and benefit the community for a boatload of stinking fucking thieving boongs.
They can't be trained no matter what, it's been ingrained in them for so long by both governments that they DESERVE a free ride.
It's a lose lose situation, we can't stop their benefits and give them food vouchers and force them to work, they'll not do it and trade their vouchers for money like they do in the US, crime will still be high, if not higher as they will steal for the luxury items they are able to buy (cigarettes,alcohol and junk food and so on) but can't get on vouchers.
Keep giving them free money and not expecting them to do anything for it except stink up the place and they'll expect it each week/fortnight.
We are fucked to put it bluntly, we can't do fuck all because anything drastic will be frowned upon by the UN and other countries and so on.
Jumanji
04-10-2011, 02:49 PM
When the topic gets brought up about muslims and boat people. Either at a bar / get - together at a mates / wherever .... i always bring up the fact that if you let the muslims and hindus and what not out of their minimum security prison up north, im sure as fuck that MOST of them will attempt to find a home, a job and even raise their kids. Although they may not conform to Aussie Pride bogan status, they will at least teach their kids values wether it be their religious values, or at least to goto school and to respect others and their family, although some which are VERY different to Australians. But at LEAST they will try and live in our country. Pretty sure they invented a wheel back in the day too. And even more.
I will always bring up the fact boongs havent invented anything other than a stick, and some pre primary spec shit ass drawings on cave walls that were probably the same as the cavemen and women in like 10,000 bc or whatever.
Boongs are the scum of scum. They need to be removed as a race.
end of story.
I completely agree,
I have no problems with boat people, so long as if you live here you abide by Australian Law, Pay your taxes, and have a job. If you fail any of those things you should be accountable for your actions via law whether your black, blue, green or fucking white. However what I have a massive problem is that I am 22 years old, I have studied hard and have a decent job, yet cannot afford the house that I would like to purchase yet a 1/8th Cast Aboriginal can walk into the welfar centre and be provided a car and a house for nothing. Along with food clothes and in some cases a phone as well.
What sort of country do we live in. We are the only contry in the world where the minority of its occupants are far better treated than the majority. Everytime a crime has been comitted, the sentence is light in comparison to someone of a white race.
My old man lived in the bush for a number of years, and he had a few Aborginal friends. One of the thing he has told me about it is that one of the elders said to him when my dad got beaten up was " White man understands thrift " " We Dont "
So Basically we as a race ( in its most simplest form ) will save for tomorrow as we do not know what tomorrow will bring. They will not save but use everything and shared by everyone as fast and as much as possible so tomorrow they will not need it. And that they have no concept of whats mine is mine and whats yours is yours as everything is shared otherwise their race will die, again this is in its most primitive form.
This stems all the way back to the begining and the elder said that the only way to change what was happening then ( i find it still relevant ) is to make them FORCEABLY conform to western society. after a few generations, eventually they will accept our culture and we can to some degree co-exist peacefully. Or we can continue down the path we are currently going in which handing Billions of dollars out them, which seems to be working really well for the last 40 odd years.
MadDocker
04-10-2011, 03:37 PM
It's absolute insanity that in today's society the police commissioner cannot state that aboriginals commit crime without a backlash.
How can anyone expect abos (or anyone else for that matter) to come good and get out of this cycle when all we do is make it as easy as possible for them to continue? Either come down hard and enforce rules and penalties or everyone suffers the consequences and we keep going like this for a few hundred years without any change.
duste
04-10-2011, 03:38 PM
So many good points in here, we should start an Antilag Political Party.
Jumanji
04-10-2011, 04:00 PM
It's absolute insanity that in today's society the police commissioner cannot state that aboriginals commit crime without a backlash.
How can anyone expect abos (or anyone else for that matter) to come good and get out of this cycle when all we do is make it as easy as possible for them to continue? Either come down hard and enforce rules and penalties or everyone suffers the consequences and we keep going like this for a few hundred years without any change.
Enforce the rules definately, therefor anyone dumb enough to do it derserves the punishment. Enforce Western Society and conformity, it will take on just time is a factor.
Passage GT
04-10-2011, 04:08 PM
doesn't help when they have a free legal service to get them off with a slap on the wrist when they do actually get caught.
white people don't have that benefit.
Mad_Aussie
04-10-2011, 04:09 PM
doesn't help when they have a free legal service to get them off with a slap on the wrist when they do actually get caught.
white people don't have that benefit.
Actually, yes, we do.
Brett_J
04-10-2011, 04:15 PM
Actually, yes, we do.
Yep, you can get a court appointed lawyer in the local courts, you have the option to donate money to them, was that way a while ago anyway.
Stealthed
04-10-2011, 04:19 PM
Agree with most of the comments in here, I myself don't have a problem with boat people as long as they're willing to conform to our laws, get a job, contribute to the community, pay taxes and not push their beliefs onto Australians as it's our country. What I don't like is our backward thinking country handing out billions to aboriginals when they do nothing and it only makes things worse.
We need to crack down on them with not so much tougher laws, but actually enforcing the ones already in place and not just a lighter sentence for the crime they committed, While on a bike trip around Australia I met an aboriginal bloke up north near Fitzroy crossing, he was almost in tears looking at his people going in and out of a bottle shop. He was an ex Drover from the older days, and he told me he was "Disgusted at what his people had become" as every aboriginal up there was spending all the government money on alcohol. They also all drove new cars as they all rocked up in brand new commodores, HSV's and Aurions at the fuel station...
So basically I think its good this is getting some attention, but Im sadden by the fact that people are in an uproar about what the commissioner has said. I wonder if any of these people complaining have ever been to an aboriginal community and watched where the money goes?...
ben351
04-10-2011, 04:22 PM
If i was a noong i would be fucking back off to the country - their dusty cousins are CLEANING up allowing the big mining companies to mine their land - last payout i read about was a community that recieved 10 million cash upfront to "put back into the community" aka buy everyone HSV's and 2% royalties on the iron ore mined there for the life of the mine ... HUGE amounts of money !!!
Duty lawyers will rarely see people now if they dont 'dontate'. with a minimum $25 donation
mr_mike
04-10-2011, 04:50 PM
I completely agree,
I have no problems with boat people, so long as if you live here you abide by Australian Law, Pay your taxes, and have a job. If you fail any of those things you should be accountable for your actions via law whether your black, blue, green or fucking white. However what I have a massive problem is that I am 22 years old, I have studied hard and have a decent job, yet cannot afford the house that I would like to purchase yet a 1/8th Cast Aboriginal can walk into the welfar centre and be provided a car and a house for nothing. Along with food clothes and in some cases a phone as well.
What sort of country do we live in. We are the only contry in the world where the minority of its occupants are far better treated than the majority. Everytime a crime has been comitted, the sentence is light in comparison to someone of a white race.
My old man lived in the bush for a number of years, and he had a few Aborginal friends. One of the thing he has told me about it is that one of the elders said to him when my dad got beaten up was " White man understands thrift " " We Dont "
So Basically we as a race ( in its most simplest form ) will save for tomorrow as we do not know what tomorrow will bring. They will not save but use everything and shared by everyone as fast and as much as possible so tomorrow they will not need it. And that they have no concept of whats mine is mine and whats yours is yours as everything is shared otherwise their race will die, again this is in its most primitive form.
This stems all the way back to the begining and the elder said that the only way to change what was happening then ( i find it still relevant ) is to make them FORCEABLY conform to western society. after a few generations, eventually they will accept our culture and we can to some degree co-exist peacefully. Or we can continue down the path we are currently going in which handing Billions of dollars out them, which seems to be working really well for the last 40 odd years.
By that culture then i am definetly owned some of the millions of $$ mining companies pay them then. whats yours in mine yeh?
RICEY
04-10-2011, 05:17 PM
We should implement a swap system whereby for every illegal boat person that arrives on our shores we send back a boong with a criminal record and who has never been employed on the same boat.
We tell the boongs they have won a free expenses paid trip overseas to get them to comply.
Eventually we'll have replaced all the lazy oxygen wasting scum breeders with immigrants willing to earn their keep and pay taxes.
Multiculturalism > Multiboongprisons.
Commit a crime, get sterilised by the state. It doesn't discriminate, and stops scrum having kids that turn into scum. Problem solved.
shifted
04-10-2011, 05:27 PM
If i was a noong i would be fucking back off to the country - their dusty cousins are CLEANING up allowing the big mining companies to mine their land - last payout i read about was a community that recieved 10 million cash upfront to "put back into the community" aka buy everyone HSV's and 2% royalties on the iron ore mined there for the life of the mine ... HUGE amounts of money !!!
In all honesty - I don't see why they get paid lump sums or royalties...if it wasn't for this country being colonised they would still be walking the desert playing with sticks, if not fucked up by the Dutch like in Tassie.
System is backwards.
"Oh it's my land!!!" Yeah, nah, get fucked, get the fuck over what happened 70 years ago and move the fuck on.
RICEY
04-10-2011, 05:39 PM
Now Karl just needs to point out how the stolen generation are the only ones that grew up to be decent boongs
mr_mike
04-10-2011, 05:49 PM
isnt the whole paying royalties for mining "their" land thing a contradiction to their whole "yours is mine" culture? The ore/gas/gold deposits are yours and we want it so there fore we can take it.
c4fgt
04-10-2011, 05:53 PM
Duty lawyers will rarely see people now if they dont 'dontate'. with a minimum $25 donation
Can get legal aid for free if you qualify.
Can get legal aid for free if your black.
fixed
although i probably spelt "your" wrong
wadragracing
04-10-2011, 08:17 PM
So it's all great for people to talk about castration etc, but that's never going to be a real solution.
When you go and see a place like Roebourne that has third world living conditions it's no wonder they have so many problems. This is a place where many of the girls are pregnant by age 12. This is a place where people commit crime to go back into prison, because in reality the prison is air conditioned, has square meals and all their family are there. It's not as stupid as it sounds.
It's endemic and that's a real issue. It may sound namby pamby but its going to have to be mentoring and reaching out to individuals to halt this and its going to be a slow process. I would advocate that instead of prison for these kids they should look at sending them out to work in the country or something like that. Something that instills working values and so on.
The cultural divide is huge and if you're brought up a certain way its hard to see the other side's point of view.
Buckets
04-10-2011, 08:43 PM
Roebourne is a 3rd world town in one of the richest areas in the world. But Roebourne is by no means poor. RTIO, Citic Pacific, FMG among others all contribute huge amounts of direct and non direct assistance to that community. We pay Roebourne locals $500 per day to come out to site and watch bulldozers do clearing (for areas they have already received significant compensation for on top of an ongoing royalty + education & training assistance) they just have to wait until the bus arrives jump on and get paid. It's that simple. I drove thru there a few weeks ago to take some of the guys to Point Sampson for dinner and its the same as last time and the time before and it will be forever until they sort their shit out for themselves. Its a hopeless situation because they don't want to or can't be bothered to change it. Jiggalong is the same, the town camp in Newman is the same, Warburton is even worse. They have the world at their feet if only they (the majority) could get up and get on with life. It just seems they are happy to be hopeless.
wadragracing
04-10-2011, 09:25 PM
Buckets, it goes to show money isn't the problem. If it was it would be fixed by now.
If a kid's life consists only of a family that is permanently drunk, where sexual abuse is rife and you're in the middle of the fucking desert (or the middle of a shit suburb) what chance have they got? Money won't fix it.
c4fgt
04-10-2011, 09:34 PM
fixed
although i probably spelt "your" wrong
You definitely spelt you're wrong and you're definitely wrong. Legal aid is free so long as you pass the income and assets test - like centrelink. Discrimination and racism based on facts is sort of reasonable. Just being a uninformed redneck is not.
Fuck nothing gets to me more than the "dis ere is ma land you white dawg we will do what ever we want" used to get it ALL the time on our sheep station i recall one time an incident occured drunk coon on the other side of one of the creeks blatently tresspassing, abusing the fuck out of someones aunty (daughter of the station owners) getting very aggressive ect and and the ladies nephew walking around the corner with a pump action shot gun (liscenced) breach open and shell visible walk up face the coon slam breach closed and start yelling out count down from 10... the scrub monkey retreated so hard it would have made the french proud!
They are a lost cause though no matter what is done it will not change they will br bred out of the gene pool before something will change, the coon part of the town up north closest to our old station is a perfect example brand new houses cyclone proofed and shit while the rest of the town is built like shit elderly residents and such with in months the place was trashed full ghetto spec burnt out cars burnt houses! uncle tried to run some over one night after stealing his tools and hit a pole and reckons it was like a scene out of black hawk down lol noongs rolling in out of their shanty town.
Ryan1080
04-10-2011, 10:14 PM
Their culture is incompatible with our culture, and until they reject most of thier culture, these problems will persist. Having gone through a couple of days worth of cultural awareness training, that is the conclusion I came up with.
In a nut shell:
-There is no concept of ownership in Aboriginal culture
-An Aboriginal can demand property from another, no ifs, no buts, has to be given to them
-A family member can order another family member to do something, again, no ifs, no buts, needs to be done, even if illegal
Having a few Aboriginals on our minesite, they earn decent money sure, however they never get to keep any of it, because useless rellies keep asking for handouts. It gets to a point where they consider just quitting altogether, because whatever they make, will be taken off them anyway. They can't say no.
As far as stolen generation goes, I used to have a similar view of that before I went on this thing. Now I can confidentaly say that stolen generation leading to broken families, has done a lot of damage for generations to come. When kids have no parents, no role models, no one to guide them through life, they grow up to be pingpingpingpings. When these pingpingpingpings have kids, the cycle repeats itself. Doesn't matter if you're black, or white, or whatever. When you break the family unit on a mass scale such as this, you will end up with problems. Anyone who thinks otherwise, no offence, but you're an idiot.
It's easy to point a finger and say, do the right thing, behave, etc! When you've had no proper family to teach you respect, how to behave, how to be a useful member of society; yet you are surrounded by negativity an prejudice (rightly or wrongly), you will also go off the rails. Skin colour here makes no difference.
It's not a simple fix, definately not something that can be fixed with money thrown at it, decades of that have proven to be a failure.
Honestly I have no idea how to fix this, hopefully it will come out through the wash over the next few generations. There is no short term solution for this unfortunately. Even without stolen generation being a huge factor in this, the culture clash would probably still be a significant issue.
Im sorry but while it does definently have a "bearing" on how they turn out, but no matter how fucked up you're up bringing is you just dont finger or fuck children SIMPLE you dont act like a peice of shit, its still no excuse there are enough people in the world even some coons (beleive it or not) that are perfect examples of it you really want to do something and make a change in your life you will and have come from shit house childhoods. its a cop out plain and simple and because its ALLOWED by the public and the government they run with it they have no incentive to change, if they cannot learn and adapt and better themselves then they are not human.
Ryan1080
04-10-2011, 11:38 PM
I hear you. I'm not excusing their behaviour at all, simply saying that the white man played a large contribution to what the situation is like today. We have to accept our part of the blame for this. Not that saying sorry was the right thing to do though...
Even at present, like you said, the attitude and methods of dealing with them, only fuels this further. Our society allows this to happen...
And agreed, there is no excuse to molesting children, ever! Lack of proper bringing up or not, being a 'human being' alone should be enough to know/feel that it's wrong. I never understood why people who were victims when they were little, tend to do the same to others later on in life...
shifted
05-10-2011, 05:08 AM
I never understood why people who were victims when they were little, tend to do the same to others later on in life...
You'd have to look at that from a psychological background really.
The three points you summarised before about ownership and asking of other family members I've heard heaps of times up north too...but I think there is a difference between the Aboriginal who defies that and works for his own and tells the rest to get fucked (though I don't think this often gets dealt with kindly from the rest of the community) and the one who can't be fucked breaking the chain and moving forward.
Either way - it isn't just them that is the problem, whites, other ethnicities, other cultures - all have their bad eggs.
Personally I don't see the issue being the stolen generation though - more so the in adequate handling of funds to "fix" the initial issues caused and its exponential increase since then. Throwing money at the situation is like turning a blind eye to it and the issues grow perpetually rather than ever being controlled, had it been handled differently at the start we could be sitting on a whole lot of other fences at the moment.
Passage GT
05-10-2011, 05:58 AM
i have to disagree about the stolen generation, i've known several people that were 'stolen' including the last one taken from her mum in WA before the laws changed (she works with me at the cape) and every one of them is a good hard worker who refuses to depend on the government etc for handouts, this one particular lady gets money from rio every 6 months because of the land agreements, last i spoke to her she used it to send her daughter to boarding school in perth.
other i've known had good work ethics and passed it onto their kids, one of my brothers mates in high school, his mother was 'stolen' he was a brilliant footballer and was doing really well at school, he hooked up with some 'cousins' and got in trouble and she fucking whooped his arse for it, just as my old man would have done for me, he got his shit together and didn't play up after that.
as you said before, all our ethics in everything are mostly passed down from our parents, the people who brought you up, if you've been brought up in a household where the olds earn their keep and discipline you when you fuck up, you'll find you'll do the same for your own kids.
this is where the problem lies, abo's don't have ethics, their parents mostly don't work and never have done, they sit at home and drink and belt the shit out of each other, so the kids think this is normal and acceptable and do the same when they get older.
Evman
05-10-2011, 06:16 AM
There's no doubt that being taken away from your family would be extremely traumatic for both parents and children, but because it was done we have a unique opportunity to compare the "outcomes". A life in a shit hole of a house, raised to sniff paint/fuel/anything else that will get you high, stealing, abuse (physical and alcohol/drug), disease, and so on, compared to the trauma of being taken away from your parents but put into a proper home, taught ethics and morals, cared for, given at a minimum basic, but most likely quality healthcare, and best of all given a proper education so that you can buck the well known trend and raise a family away from all that other crap.
I'd be giving my kids away if it gave them that chance and all I could provide was the former.
wormbo2
05-10-2011, 07:34 AM
Well said Evman, but that last point about giving your kids away for a better cause, they'd never do that, because in the last few generations, they've learnt that we give, not take, and as long as we keep giving, they don't give a
fuck what else happens.
Moment you break the cycle of a free ride, they're chucking wobbly's and banging the racism drum!
It's a pity really, I went to school with a few decent noongs, and some have made it as welders, even zoo keepers
And government appointed animal control officers, but a few also managed to hook up with 'the rest of them' and
have ended up smashing cars or doing paint/petrol/drugs.
So in point, maybe another 'stolen generation' probably won't be a bloody bad idea.
Prove a point in this day and age, that the 'white' intentions were good.
/2c
I myself don't have a problem with boat people as long as they're willing to conform to our laws, get a job, contribute to the community, pay taxes and not push their beliefs onto Australians as it's our country. .
Agreed , But that is the problem most of these Muslim fucks have no intention of conforming to our way of life. They believe we must conform to theirs. If their way of life is so good why the fuck do they not stay where they were?? You really want people in this country who think it is perfectly acceptable to fly a plane into public buildings??
siladee
05-10-2011, 07:54 AM
Agreed , But that is the problem most of these Muslim fucks have no intention of conforming to our way of life. They believe we must conform to theirs. If their way of life is so good why the fuck do they not stay where they were?? You really want people in this country who think it is perfectly acceptable to fly a plane into public buildings??
They flew planes into buildings because they were mentally unstable Muslims not because they were Muslims
Jumanji
05-10-2011, 07:59 AM
By that culture then i am definetly owned some of the millions of $$ mining companies pay them then. whats yours in mine yeh?
Pretty sure woodside gave them a few Million to shut them up so they could build on their land. so yeah.
shifted
05-10-2011, 08:05 AM
Agreed , But that is the problem most of these Muslim fucks have no intention of conforming to our way of life. They believe we must conform to theirs. If their way of life is so good why the fuck do they not stay where they were?? You really want people in this country who think it is perfectly acceptable to fly a plane into public buildings??
Too generalised. Heaps of people of the Muslim faith are no different to the Average Joe, keep to themselves, don't preach, have a drink, have a laugh - the tainted picture painted by events in history is no different to those centuries ago by Christians/Catholics or whatever boat it was.
I have a couple Muslim mates, and they are some of the best people I know. I've had more Jehovah's Witnesses and Reborn Christians come up to me to preach and be a nuisance than anything else.
On another note - anyone been through the city and seen about 7-8 chaps stop dead in the middle and start yapping about how Jesus saved them and we should all follow blah blah blah? Last time I saw them people began abusing them as they walked by - bunch of spastics preaching in an area like that I'm surprised someone hasn't bashed them yet to be honest, not to be rude, but some people were getting quite pissed they looked like they were about to knock heads. Why people do shit like that I don't know - seems pointless. Let people believe what they want.
Saying all that - this shouldn't be turned into a debate on religion again - it goes nowhere.
shifted
05-10-2011, 08:19 AM
Pretty sure woodside gave them a few Million to shut them up so they could build on their land. so yeah.
There are areas you cannot go through because some Aboriginal bloke "had a feeling" when he walked through there so it's been fenced off as it was "where his ancestors did some rituals" - at least, that is how it was told to me.
Cape Lambert is full of fenced off areas, even some as small as 2x2m out in the middle of NOWHERE special but you aren't allowed to do anything in those areas, I think some bloke got done for pissing in one fenced off area.
Kangaroo Hill has a large area fenced off just as you walk up from the car park on your right hand side - apparently the fence is that high (double standard height) so women can't see into it as it was a sacred ritual area where boys became men - fuck knows how long ago, or how some random Aboriginal bloke knew this - I peeked over the fence and it was no different to any other bushland you see out there - rocks and grass.
Where the radio towers are - we were told we shouldn't be wandering around on the hills up there (we were surveying services) - simply because the ancestors came to those rocks to over look the ocean - and people were only meant to be allowed up there after work hours.
That was all told to me and my colleague by some RTio guys when we were there last year for 9-10months of work, before random calls of "it's amazing what BS is spun from them to keep them happy and allow us to continue our work, anything we do wrong, go through areas we shouldn't = big fines, and we need special permission just to be able to build somewhere. An elder has to walk through the area and any area "he has a feeling in" has to be fenced off, and we have to build AROUND it, even if it is just a 1x1m area - we have no choice"
It's amazing what ride this country is being taken on... I've got nothing against any race - every race has their bad eggs and bullshit - but shit is backwards here something chronic. And the ride keeps continuing because people call racism like they have nothing more constructive to do...
What happened 70-80 years ago, is just that - 70-80 years ago. Get over it, move on, be constructive. Not crying "this is my land and you stole it from us" - didn't steal shit IMO. Bunch of rocks and sticks aren't exactly a commodity to be worthwhile stealing.
I don't how how it is in India but you don't see them crying for the British.
You also don't see the Polish sitting there crying after Germany. Family members of mine that survived those times and I've been lucky to meet have all mentioned; why cry over spilled milk, have a drink, smile, get on with life. Crying about it isn't going to mend the past or change what's happened.
MISS 13B
05-10-2011, 08:27 AM
Now to convince the majority that culling is a good idea.
We should implement a swap system whereby for every illegal boat person that arrives on our shores we send back a boong with a criminal record and who has never been employed on the same boat.
We tell the boongs they have won a free expenses paid trip overseas to get them to comply.
Eventually we'll have replaced all the lazy oxygen wasting scum breeders with immigrants willing to earn their keep and pay taxes.
Multiculturalism > Multiboongprisons.
Have you ever considered running for PM?
-Luke-
05-10-2011, 08:36 AM
Kangaroo Hill has a large area fenced off just as you walk up from the car park on your right hand side - apparently the fence is that high (double standard height) so women can't see into it as it was a sacred ritual area where boys became men - fuck knows how long ago, or how some random Aboriginal bloke knew this - I peeked over the fence and it was no different to any other bushland you see out there - rocks and grass.
The irony that the sacred site is located directly across the foot path from the shit farm and is constantly surround by the smell of last nights digested slops isnt lost on me..... :D
You know what we need?
Boongcrow.
Ryan1080
05-10-2011, 09:16 AM
There's no doubt that being taken away from your family would be extremely traumatic for both parents and children, but because it was done we have a unique opportunity to compare the "outcomes". A life in a shit hole of a house, raised to sniff paint/fuel/anything else that will get you high, stealing, abuse (physical and alcohol/drug), disease, and so on, compared to the trauma of being taken away from your parents but put into a proper home, taught ethics and morals, cared for, given at a minimum basic, but most likely quality healthcare, and best of all given a proper education so that you can buck the well known trend and raise a family away from all that other crap.
I'd be giving my kids away if it gave them that chance and all I could provide was the former.
All fine and well, except you're falsely assuming that before the stolen generation happened, these problems (paint sniffing, abuse, disease etc.) existed back in the day. That is just not true! These problems have arisen as a result of stolen generation. Had that not happened, the family unit would have been kept in tact. Discipline and respect would have been taught. Anger would not exist.
I've personally met a few people from the stolen generation. They were telling us their life stories, how they had a happy family life etc. before they, or their siblings were taken away. Once that happened, the families broke down.
Think about it from their persepective. You live in a happy white skin caucasian household.... Imagine someone coming to your house one day, taking your kids away. What would you and your missus do? You'll feel helpless? You'd be angry yeah? You'll start disrespecting the authorities that did that to you. You'd probably start drinking later on as a result. Start arguing with your wife? Other kids get neglected as a result? They don't get brought up properly anymore, because your family unit is broken up. Those kids have a shitty childhood, grow up with no proper upbringing and respect that they can pass on to their kids, only anger and the rest of the shit we're familiar with. And the cycle continues...
Yes, there are exceptions, some stolen kids have been adopted by loving family, but most have just spent their childhood isolated from their family in an orphanage, without proper guidance in life.
RICEY
05-10-2011, 09:30 AM
You know what we need?
Boongcrow.
Hey I have ownership of that word :)
Problem with the stolen generation is it was done at the wrong time. As far as I know back then the parents looked after the kids they just didnt get much in the form of education etc.
Today is when the kids should be taken from the parents for their own good.
Ryan1080
05-10-2011, 09:38 AM
Problem with the stolen generation is it was done at the wrong time. As far as I know back then the parents looked after the kids they just didnt get much in the form of education etc.
Today is when the kids should be taken from the parents for their own good.
Agreed. It's needed now, unfortunately won't happen...
Jumanji
05-10-2011, 09:51 AM
There are areas you cannot go through because some Aboriginal bloke "had a feeling" when he walked through there so it's been fenced off as it was "where his ancestors did some rituals" - at least, that is how it was told to me.
Cape Lambert is full of fenced off areas, even some as small as 2x2m out in the middle of NOWHERE special but you aren't allowed to do anything in those areas, I think some bloke got done for pissing in one fenced off area.
Kangaroo Hill has a large area fenced off just as you walk up from the car park on your right hand side - apparently the fence is that high (double standard height) so women can't see into it as it was a sacred ritual area where boys became men - fuck knows how long ago, or how some random Aboriginal bloke knew this - I peeked over the fence and it was no different to any other bushland you see out there - rocks and grass.
Where the radio towers are - we were told we shouldn't be wandering around on the hills up there (we were surveying services) - simply because the ancestors came to those rocks to over look the ocean - and people were only meant to be allowed up there after work hours.
That was all told to me and my colleague by some RTio guys when we were there last year for 9-10months of work, before random calls of "it's amazing what BS is spun from them to keep them happy and allow us to continue our work, anything we do wrong, go through areas we shouldn't = big fines, and we need special permission just to be able to build somewhere. An elder has to walk through the area and any area "he has a feeling in" has to be fenced off, and we have to build AROUND it, even if it is just a 1x1m area - we have no choice"
It's amazing what ride this country is being taken on... I've got nothing against any race - every race has their bad eggs and bullshit - but shit is backwards here something chronic. And the ride keeps continuing because people call racism like they have nothing more constructive to do...
What happened 70-80 years ago, is just that - 70-80 years ago. Get over it, move on, be constructive. Not crying "this is my land and you stole it from us" - didn't steal shit IMO. Bunch of rocks and sticks aren't exactly a commodity to be worthwhile stealing.
I don't how how it is in India but you don't see them crying for the British.
You also don't see the Polish sitting there crying after Germany. Family members of mine that survived those times and I've been lucky to meet have all mentioned; why cry over spilled milk, have a drink, smile, get on with life. Crying about it isn't going to mend the past or change what's happened.
Precisely, well said sir.
Passage GT
05-10-2011, 10:00 AM
lol my mate was literally taken from the roebourne pub, she was like 3 and wondering around, her mum was passed out on the kerb out front.
this was a regular occurance, might not work for everyone but it was certainly for the best in her case.
agree with what ricey said though, should be based on individual circumstances, kid gets done for break and enter etc, get a warrent to search their parents house, see what they live in, when they last worked, when they last fucking showered or bought groceries or did anything normal families do.
if they're drunk stinking no hopers then take the fuckin kids away and give them a chance at life.
Halle Terry
05-10-2011, 12:38 PM
There's actually some hilarious responses in this thread, like I've genuinely laughed a few times reading some of the responses.
This problem in my opinion is best addressed on an individual level, you isolate one kid and teach him what we know and he'll gain an appreciation for it, essentially you would need a more politically correct and better thought out 'stolen generation'. Aboriginals are people too and we can't really forget that, most of them are scum but they just don't know a life any different. They're just stuck in this never ending cycle where their mentality is they can do what they want and we just have to take it.
Also, the whole nomadic lifestyle 'they invented a stick' thing is a bit subjective. Who's to say we've got it any better because just because we've got cars, houses and all that other shit? We also have a shit tonne of problems we've generated because of that. They might not have invented modern medicine like we did, but we also managed to create a plethora of creative ways to maim and hurt other people.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not bleeding heart for them - in fact it was around this time last year I had to choke one them out outside my own house as he tried to hit my brother with a 2x4 (mind you I fucking loved every second of it)
Aboriginals are people too and we can't really forget
^ Tears!!! terry you are a funny pingpingpingping!! ahahaha
Mark my words its just a matter of time before we get our own cronulla spec up roar over these fuckkers! :D
Mad_Aussie
05-10-2011, 01:59 PM
Also, the whole nomadic lifestyle 'they invented a stick' thing is a bit subjective. Who's to say we've got it any better because just because we've got cars, houses and all that other shit? We also have a shit tonne of problems we've generated because of that. They might not have invented modern medicine like we did, but we also managed to create a plethora of creative ways to maim and hurt other people.
To be honest, they've got one of the oldest forms of "written" history (aka splatter paintings), and at least one mob of them worked out pretty advanced astronomy techniques that predate anything else in the world by tens of thousands of years...
Considering that in their history there was never any full-scale continental wars or shit like that, so they really have a huge one-up on the Europeans.
Scumbag Europeans - finds peaceful native inhabitants, discriminate and marginalise them to the point of social mistrust and hatered... Complain when they don't fit into society.
Jumanji
05-10-2011, 02:05 PM
To be honest, they've got one of the oldest forms of "written" history (aka splatter paintings), and at least one mob of them worked out pretty advanced astronomy techniques that predate anything else in the world by tens of thousands of years...
Considering that in their history there was never any full-scale continental wars or shit like that, so they really have a huge one-up on the Europeans.
Scumbag Europeans - finds peaceful native inhabitants, discriminate and marginalise them to the point of social mistrust and hatered... Complain when they don't fit into society.
True that ..... Unna.
confuzion
05-10-2011, 02:25 PM
AYYYYYY DAAAARRDYYYYYYYYYYYY
Jumanji
05-10-2011, 03:22 PM
There's actually some hilarious responses in this thread, like I've genuinely laughed a few times reading some of the responses.
This problem in my opinion is best addressed on an individual level, you isolate one kid and teach him what we know and he'll gain an appreciation for it, essentially you would need a more politically correct and better thought out 'stolen generation'. Aboriginals are people too and we can't really forget that, most of them are scum but they just don't know a life any different. They're just stuck in this never ending cycle where their mentality is they can do what they want and we just have to take it.
Also, the whole nomadic lifestyle 'they invented a stick' thing is a bit subjective. Who's to say we've got it any better because just because we've got cars, houses and all that other shit? We also have a shit tonne of problems we've generated because of that. They might not have invented modern medicine like we did, but we also managed to create a plethora of creative ways to maim and hurt other people.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not bleeding heart for them - in fact it was around this time last year I had to choke one them out outside my own house as he tried to hit my brother with a 2x4 (mind you I fucking loved every second of it)
Errrr....subjective it may be but accurate either way. Because they intvented computers, Nuclear Power, Electricity, Gas Power, General Technology, Cars, Fuel, The Economy. Would you like me to continue?
Mad_Aussie
05-10-2011, 03:31 PM
It should also be said that individuals invent things - not racial groups.
I'm pretty sure it was Enrico Fermi that invented the first nuclear reactor, not Caucasians in general.
Jumanji
05-10-2011, 04:31 PM
It should also be said that individuals invent things - not racial groups.
I'm pretty sure it was Enrico Fermi that invented the first nuclear reactor, not Caucasians in general.
My mistake, fair call. I'm generalising.
Evman
05-10-2011, 04:35 PM
Considering that in their history there was never any full-scale continental wars or shit like that, so they really have a huge one-up on the Europeans.
Scumbag Europeans - finds peaceful native inhabitants, discriminate and marginalise them to the point of social mistrust and hatered... Complain when they don't fit into society.
At least there'll never be an Aboriginal Mafia, seeing as a Mafia requires organised crime :p
Jokes aside, you're bang on about them being largely peaceful. When Cook first arrived the Aborigines didn't give a shit and just kept fishing. Literally. Mauris had put up a fight, as did the Fijians, but not the Aboriginals. Cook claims the country for England
http://i.qkme.me/7dp5.jpg
crabman
05-10-2011, 08:01 PM
Figure this could turn into "My dealings with worthless boongs today"
2 17-80 yo halfies in a vs commodore going down welshpool rd at atleast a hundred using both lanes, nearly t boned a car exiting a side street.
2 elder noongs carrying on about "ma laaaannddd" as they walked out of BP cannington after they walked in there with shopping bags and started loading up before the indian gentleman working the store asked them to leave.
Funny thing was, the guy behind the counter said they come in all the time and do it, every friday without fail. He is wondering what they have lined up for this friday to start so early lol
Halle Terry
05-10-2011, 10:02 PM
Errrr....subjective it may be but accurate either way. Because they intvented computers, Nuclear Power, Electricity, Gas Power, General Technology, Cars, Fuel, The Economy. Would you like me to continue?
The reason they never invented everything is because they never needed to.
Yeah and while we invented all these great things because our civilizations settled down and cultivated land etc, we also managed to wage an incredible array of wars, develop biological weapons, advanced munitions, weaponry that's sole purpose is to hurt each-other, an economy whereby food can is plentiful but you're not allowed any because you can't afford it, powerplants that when upset create a totally unliveable environment around them etc
The point is, the whole calling them stupid because they didn't form a civilization (don't fool yourself that because we live in a civilization we are 'civil' beings) is irrelevant in this issue.
Modern coons are scum, pure and simple - their ancestors were fine in my opinion, but this modern breed are fucking pingpingpingpings.
Simon
06-10-2011, 07:17 AM
There is two kinds of people in every race, Good/Bad.
Pointless argument's, Nothing's going to change.
Actually now that Mr big cop has stated it, the government would probably tax us more in order to fund some kind of "a better life project" for these people.
Sevan
06-10-2011, 10:07 PM
I'll help fund that.
give them cable ties and tell them they're new scarves.
I spent some time a couple of years ago traveling round australia with a mate COOL FUCKING STORY pingpingpingping
in the NT we met a fair few of our dusty cousins, I can honestly say it did kinda sway my mind on them. The ones you meet out there treat every smoke, beer, joint like its everyones. It was almost heart warming for some poor pingpingpingping coon to offer a toke of his last smoke, or knock on your car window at 7am with a 6 pack and a big smile on his face more than willling to share every beer he had with you and your mate. regardless of the fact that he didnt know how he was going to pay for / get his lunch.
In a way I grew to admire the social workings of them. They all knew each other and all seemed to have a mutual respect for each other or anyone that was injected into the group by either themselfs or a fellow shit stain. It didnt matter how you acted or looked they all kinda just opend up to you and treated you like you were part of the family.
Then came the alcahol, I remember the guy knocking on our window in the morning with a 6 pack of VB and we went down to the water and talked shit over a coldy.. good times. until we offerd to by the next lot.. a carton. needless to say by 7pm that night me and a mate were watching as the old pingpingpingping was getting fished out of the darwin wave pool by cops after flatly refusing for 2 hours to get out (no cop would go in after him). and watching him kick and scream completely starkers out of the complex I realised that maybe alcahol probably isnt a good idea for that race.
the good ones are good, really good. but the problem is in the city.. there are very few good ones. they are just a bunch of half cast young pieces of shit that think its cool to follow the example they are led by. and that is there mum and fuck of the day getting smashed and being complete assholes.
actually took this pic on the day in question, he was a good hearted guy I swear to god. just alcahol turned him into a mess
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j152/jhoskisson/SDC10168.jpg
LOL is that from inside a NIVA? going by the rear window?
would I travel cross country in anything else? haha
best pic I have of it
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j152/jhoskisson/SDC10161.jpg
lol just realised my headlights in that pic are still 1/4 full of water. did the gibb river road when it was off limits due to flooding, hit a 200 meter crossing doing like 130+... car came out about 3 inches shorter haha
KPWISHN
07-10-2011, 05:50 AM
Niva's parked right out the front of Uncle Sam's 24hr eating joint. I have seen some shit that would make your eyes bleed at the park across the road. Coons have simply been given too much for free, for too long and it has been detrimental to their race.
crabman
07-10-2011, 07:41 AM
Even my experience of boongs from out in remote communities is tainted with theft experiences. I used to live at Warrego Gold mine, middle of no-where. School there was yr 1-7 and had about 20 kids all up and about 5 were darkies from more than the middle of no-where. If you brought a toy to school that they wanted, they usually found a way to take it.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/latest/10415238/fifth-teen-charged-over-backpacker-rape/
Im going to take a stab and presume they can tick the "Of Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander decent" box to get ahead in life.
Chrono90
07-10-2011, 11:19 AM
I think the whole "Stole my land" argument is pathetic anyway, The Brits came here, and took over the land.
They couldn't fight back properly? too bad, its how it worked back then. Civilizations and such were taken over via war. You couldn't defend yourself, you lost your shit. End of story.
You don't see any other country s saying sorry to people for invading their land. Stupid fucking boongs. And stupid Government for saying sorry, what a load of shit.
Who was sorry? I sure as hell am not sorry, not one bit.
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