F1 2012 chat thread

[Frenchy]

Nice start by Webber!

[Alt_F4]

Go banana!

[Lonewolf]

nice start by webber and ricciardo back above vergne, hopefully stays that way!

[Adr3naL1N]

13 laps in and we have our second ad break?

this is actually beyond a joke.

[fourseven]

Smoke break ;)

[Alt_F4]

Webber looking strong

[Adr3naL1N]

great start for webber and kimi, kimi gets alonso on the stop and webber just behind on a slightly fresher tyre, needs to get him!

[Lonewolf]

man grosean is quick, faster in all sectors and only one in 26's

[fourseven]

Benefit of the softs. Inexperience will lose it for him.

And then the tyres go off.

[Lonewolf]

yeah, forgot he was on softs.
Interested to see how fast they drop off

[ELUSIV]

Pretty worried about Lotus' strategy with Grosjean. Was really hoping he could pull out a win as the Lotus and McLaren look like they have pretty comparable race pace but I think Grosjean is going to wear through those tyres way to quick. Strat would have worked if they could have jumped Lewis during the stop, or if he passed him within a few laps but every lap he spends behind him will put him in a worse position for the last stint of the race.

Watching the Red Bull's on the main straights is so frustrating, they really need to work on their straight line speed. Button's McClaren was pulling a couple of tenths on him with no DRS!

[fourseven]

CHARLIE THESE GUYS AREN'T MOVING OUT OF THE DAMN WAY!

[ELUSIV]

Senna - :trollface:

Kimi ftw? Would be an epic finish if so!

[mjp]

Turning out to be a real corker of a race this one!!

[fourseven]

And Potato does it again.

[ELUSIV]

LOL Maldanado running into Hulkenburg

[fourseven]

Come on Kimi!

[Joe]

Looked like potato was counter steering..

[fourseven]

Lewis in huge trouble here.

[mjp]

^^indeed Kimi looking strong!

How was his pit exit next to Grosjean and i thought ''Not a single f**k was given that day'' hehe

[fourseven]

Fucking Kimi. Push you useless pingpingpingping!

At least the McLaren didn't walk it. Boring as batshit until lap 56.

[TJ]

yesssssssssssssss!!!!

[Adr3naL1N]

did webber really need that third pitstop? his pace seemed good, seems he just cost himself 5th place. Unless he thought he could get a fresh set and hope for the other tyres to do in the last ten laps, which they didnt seem to do. Made fuck all difference!

[POH73]

I get the feeling that it was a kneejerk reaction as he was catching Vettel very quickly, instead of him getting held up they pitted him, then 1-2 laps later they pitted Vettel anyway. Why not pit vettel as he was 1.5 secs or so slower which would then release MW? Stupidly for RBR, they could have got P4 & P5 WCC points. That's the way I see it anyway....

Anyway, congrats lewis, Kimi & Romain!

[TheChad]

Wouldn't be a GP without a potato smash.

Aside from that and a lotus wheel nudge that was incredibly boring...
So many better circuits available out there. Processions are even more boring when the cars are clearly faster than those infront. They all drove well and did their jobs. But I nearly fell asleep.

[Huy]

Wow @ the girls welcoming the top 3. Best Ive seen this year!

[TheChad]

Also lol at channel 10! 6 add breaks, all reasonably long too.

As always I stream it... But it's fucking annoying.

[fourseven]

Looking forward to Lewis getting DOTD on JA's site kek

[Autopilot]

What the hell is that growth on Lewis's face?

[fourseven]

Plácido Domingo... what the fuck is this shit?

[mjp]

LOL at ''That other guy'' giving interviews!

Should add 4pts seperating Mclaren, Lotus and Ferrari in the constructors! crazy :)

[Kaido]

Looks like ferrari are back to being 4th fastest.. Lucky for alsono rbr gifting him those extra points

[Buckets]

Happy to see a McLaren win, pissed off they fucked up the strategy for Jenson's car. But other than that it was a shit boring race at a shit circuit. The post race conference on the podium with an opera singer poncing around is shit.

Bring on Spa !

[TJ]

Now what the fuck do we do for a month :(

I get back from Bali at 7pm of race night... going to be a tight one!

[fourseven]

Looks like ferrari are back to being 4th fastest.. Lucky for alsono rbr gifting him those extra points

Ferrari traditionally get faster/better in the second half of the season. For the last few years anyway. I don't think they are too concerned yet.

Kimi surely to win the next race or 2.

[Adr3naL1N]

ill be in singapore for spa! will have to watch on from my hotel room at the stamford

[TJ]

Ferrari traditionally get faster/better in the second half of the season. For the last few years anyway. I don't think they are too concerned yet.

Kimi surely to win the next race or 2.

But the second is Monza

"Ferrari always win in Monza" - Rhett, 2012

[fourseven]

LOL I didn't mean it like that. They've had more wins than anybody overall and a lot over the last 10/15 years. Take away the Brawn/Red Bull dominant years and the rest were Schumi/Rubens/Kimi in a Ferrari and then Kimi in a McLaren. So I'd be tipping Fred or Kimi.

Cheeky fuck.

[VRX]

Also lol at channel 10! 6 add breaks, all reasonably long too.

As always I stream it... But it's fucking annoying.

Yep,i begrudgingly accept that they need sponsor ad's but do we really need to see a Pubity Blues or The Shire promo on every break? seriously..

[ALEX.]

...do we really need to see a Pubity Blues or The Shire promo on every break? seriously..
Yep. Every ad break last year/year before was the same thing over and over and over and over and over. And over.
I damn well actually bought Brut Antiperspirant Deodorant just so they'd think they were selling some and would stop advertising it!

[Joe]

What the fuck was with the pregnancy test kit ad?

Target Market.. you're doing it wrong!

[shane]

What the fuck was with the pregnancy test kit ad?

Target Market.. you're doing it wrong!

That's exactly what i've been thinking the last few races its been on.

[TJ]

http://i.imgur.com/bAE8f.jpg

P.S What ads?

[JME]

Lotus sooooo close. Bring on a cracker part 2 into the year!!!


Does the carbon bar at the Cas still show F1 ??? I think an AL 'quiet drinks' night would be a great way to start off the second half of the season no???

[FranZ]

lol @ Jenson laughing at everyone else!

[Joe]

I'm excited about watching the SG F1 on my own whilst I'm in Italy late September.

/forever alone

[TJ]

Lotus sooooo close. Bring on a cracker part 2 into the year!!!


Does the carbon bar at the Cas still show F1 ??? I think an AL 'quiet drinks' night would be a great way to start off the second half of the season no???

Can be pre drunk when I land... might work. Problem is it is loud, I cant watch the race without commentary :(

[TJ]

Stats to date
=============

Wins: FA3,MW2,LH2,SV1,NR1,JB1,PM1

Podiums:
FA6,LH5,KR5,SV3,JB3,RG3,MW2,NR2,SP2,PM1,MS1

T5 Finishes (2+):
FA9,SV8,MW7,KR7,LH6,RG4,NR3,JB3,SP2,KK2

Pts Finishes (5+):
FA11,MW10,KR10,SV9,LH9,NR8,JB7,
RG6,BS6,SP5,KK5,MS5,PdR5,FM5,NH5

Longest podium streaks (2+):
FA3,LH3,FA2,KR2(2x)

Current podium streak: KR2,LH1,RG1

Longest T5 streaks (2+):
FA7,MW4,KR4,SV3,LH3,FA2,MW2,
SV2(2x),LH2,KR2,NR2,RG2

Current T5 streak:
FA7,KR4,SV3,LH1,RG1

Longest pts finish streaks (3+):
FA11,KR8,LH7,MW6,NR6,SV5,MW4,JB4,SV3,RG3,MS3

Current pts finish streak:
FA11,KR8,MW6,JB4,SV3,NR2,LH1,RG1,FM1,BS1

Retirements (not classified)(3+):
MS6,RG4,KK3,CP3,NK3

[SimonR32]

So is the race worth watching and is there going to be a replay or torrent?

Missed it on the way back from Singapore last night

[TJ]

Honestly Simon, was a little boring.

Summary

-Pastor hit someone again
-You cant pass at Hungary

[MadDocker]

Ricciardo also beat his teammate despite being out qualified. Not bad.

[Jazza]

What a terrible season they're having!

[Adr3naL1N]

What a terrible season they're having!

TR? they sure are, i expected to be improved and they were wuite competitve amongst the mid pack. This year most of the mid pack (williams, sauber, force india) have all stepped it up and TR the only ones that havent!! in fact a backwards step. The only ones they can beat are the back markers!
started promising after a points finish for DR in round 1 but nothing since! Vergne a points finish a malaysia but thats it. Seriosuly dissapointed.

[Brockas]

Look where the money comes from.


If they have a spare $3M to spend, are they going to spend it improving RBR or STR?

STR will never be a strong team. They are simply a driver training team, keeping a couple of drivers warm until a seat at RBR becomes available.

[TJ]

I dont think it works like that Paul. Pretty sure they have to declare their expenditure to the FIA including sources etc. Dont think they can switch money over teams.

[Brockas]

Whether its declared previously is irrelevant I think. I was more talking about their mindset.

[TJ]

Oh for sure - who gives a fuck about two guys mired in 15/6/7 when they have 2 guys trying to win a WDC/WCC

[TJ]

ps

brb moving to hungary

http://f1grandprix.motorionline.com/download/pitbabes2012/Gp_Ungheria//Gp_Ungheria_2012_pitbabes_012.jpg

[Sebdullah]

hug tour of hungary issit?

[SimonR32]

Anyone find youtube of Pastor crash?

Keen to compare with TJ's GT5 prowess :)

[fourseven]

It was only a little nudge. Driver had to go wide off track.

[Joe]

For once I actually think Pasta didn't do it on purpose.. it really did seem like he was counter steering at that point, and just ran wide in doing so and nudged Di Resta.

No matter what, I still reckon he's 100% potato-spec for all the incident's he's caused in the past few races, but in that particular incident, I think the stewards came down on him purely because of his previous history.

[fourseven]

Yeah he was only trying to correct losing the rear end. But still, fuck him.

[Brockas]

It was only a little nudge. Driver had to go wide off track.
LOL Di Resta didn't choose to go off track, he got hit so hard that he got 'bumped' off track. It was a fair whack!


For once I actually think Pasta didn't do it on purpose.. it really did seem like he was counter steering at that point, and just ran wide in doing so and nudged Di Resta.
He never does it on purpose.

His move on Perez - on the inside, lost the rear, took Perez out.
His move on Hamilton - Refuses to give up the inside line, hits the kerb, launches himself into Lewis.


It's the same thing every time. Other drivers give him room, he gets out of shape, and takes them out anyway!

[fourseven]

I don't think it was that big a shunt.


http://youtu.be/sbUdkMyxLXI

[esky]

his hit on Perez at Monaco was defiantly on purpose. On lewis at spa as well.

[SimonR32]

That replay looks like it's not a huge hit but Di Resta turned off track to avoid it being any worse.

I with Brockas with him being more "clumsy" rather than malicious

[Joe]

He definitely hasn't learned how to count to potato yet

[MGR]

but in that particular incident, I think the stewards came down on him purely because of his previous history.

I think the stewards would've penalised any driver in the same situation.

The dive up the inside was OK and Di Resta gave plenty of room through the apex - both cars well under control. It wasn't until Potato lost control of his car by picking up the throttle too early that he gave Di Resta a slap gaining himself a position in the process.

The fact that Di Resta did everything that could be expected of him to avoid an incident would've also contributed to the Steward's decision to award the drive-through.

Some props should be given to Potato though. At least he was having a go at overtaking...

[sdwz180]

Always interesting,

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[TheChad]

Pastor doesnt think. im really starting to fucking hate him hey.

He doesnt back off enough, then expects others to get out of the way, he clearly just doesnt understand.
$30mil might buy you a seat, but it cant remove that extra chromosome...

its getting frustrating to watch. He calls himself an "agressive" driver, but there is no skill in what he does, he tries too hard, is too wild, and constantly fucks up and smacks into people.

[Jazza]

It wasn't until Potato lost control of his car by picking up the throttle too early that he gave Di Resta a slap gaining himself a position in the process.


Glad somebody picked that up. You can't use oversteer as an excuse, he's got on the throttle to try to keep the position, lost control of the car and then hit Di Resta. Effing stupid. The fact Senna has outperformed him in the season (excluding the race win) just shows how useless he is.

[Alt_F4]

Pastor doesnt think. im really starting to fucking hate him hey.

He doesnt back off enough, then expects others to get out of the way, he clearly just doesnt understand.
$30mil might buy you a seat, but it cant remove that extra chromosome...

its getting frustrating to watch. He calls himself an "agressive" driver, but there is no skill in what he does, he tries too hard, is too wild, and constantly fucks up and smacks into people.
Who does he think he is, Lewis Hamilton or something?

[fourseven]

I was thinking the exact same thing LOL! Pastor reminds me of a young(er) Lewis :p

[Autopilot]

Not a fan of Maldanado at all but wasn't he a genuine champion in GP2? If that's the case he must have some skill beyond bringing in sponsor dollars. Although a different class of driver people forget that Ayrton Senna was a pingpingpingping behind the wheel too.

[fourseven]

Senna was a pingpingpingping full stop.

[Autopilot]

I totally agree with that statement but I didn't want to sandy up any vaginas.

[TJ]

So was Michael. The greats generally dont get ahead by being nice and letting the guy through.

[TJ]

or by not using option 13 on their benneton ECU

[Jazza]

I was thinking the exact same thing LOL! Pastor reminds me of a young(er) Lewis :p

So he matched Fernando Alonso in his rookie season and got a podium on his debut? Interesting :P

[fourseven]

All F1 drivers start at the bottom.

Except Lewis xox

[ELUSIV]

All F1 drivers start at the bottom.

Except Lewis xox

it's cos he is black

[Kaido]

Alonso seem alright but i guess he had the whole dummyspit when he was at mac

[Brockas]

Always interesting,

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"Ricciardo slipping down the order and Vergne going up it after their qualifying performances"
*sigh*
Even when Ricciardo starts behind JE and beats him, he still doesn't get the credit for being a great racer!


Anyway, another point which I would argue is that the Renault KERS system is costing Renault teams 1-2 tenths.

Yes, they only have a maximum instantaneous power of 40kW and other teams have 60kW, but they still have the same total of 400kJ storage which is available to every team.

This means that their KERS is less powerful, but can be activated for longer...

[fourseven]

LOL Ted Kravitz, such a twat. At the Malaysian GP he said several times "I'm down at the [insert team here] garage" but the truth is he didn't leave the McLaren pitwall ONCE. Not a single walk around.

[Adr3naL1N]

cheeeaahhhh!! came in the mail today. 3rd year in a row. love it!


http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/387975_3642690788440_801244630_n.jpg

[Brockas]

So good...

I posted this in the AL Tours section for those who are going... these arrived at my door the other day ;)

30 x Pit Grandstand 3-day passes!

http://i49.tinypic.com/10qb9zc.jpg

[TJ]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m89bv71mMd1qez4zyo1_500.jpg

[mischief1]

So good...

I posted this in the AL Tours section for those who are going... these arrived at my door the other day ;)

30 x Pit Grandstand 3-day passes!

http://i49.tinypic.com/10qb9zc.jpg

That packaging is getting cheaper looking every year, I thought it was a bunch of condoms at first glance

[Kaido]

lol

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s480x480/417544_469810893042891_253497657_n.jpg

[TJ]

Im leaving at the headline above him - what turnaround?

Fuck me, Alonso has been one of the best guys since 2004, name the turnaround. FFS

[Sully]

More like Ferrari's turnaround from not knowing what the fuck to do with their car this year to finally figuring out how to wring some speed out of the thing.
Couldn't really say Ferrari's turn around because Massa is still a bit hit and miss. His panel beater is still fixing up the last dents in his skull.

[Brockas]

No shit. Alonso is one of the best (if not the best) drivers in the field. He has had no turn-around, only his car has changed.

Pastor is a down-syndrome'd pingpingpingping who races in F1 like he did in GP2... in other words, he races as if the cars can't be broken and points aren't important, only wins are important.



Pretty keen to see Bruno smash him for the rest of the season.

[Sully]

Yeah agreed, he's shown many a time that he only needs a half competitive car and he'll do something interesting with it.

Pastor got lucky with the win earlier this year. Everyone acknowledges that it was a lottery figuring out the tyres this year. Retards win the lotto all the time. I reckon there's a possibility that he could do a Lorenzo/Simoncelli (minus the death bit) and go from being pretty fast but crashes a lot, then move on to just being outright fast. He's just gotta stop pushing stupid moves that he and the car aren't capable of.

In other news that everybody has probably head already, Ferrari haven't executed their option on Massa for next season so that's a bit of a pointer. What are the latest wild theories for who's going to take that seat? Just about everyone on the grid has been linked to it. Lots of people still crapping on about Vettel going there in 2014 so it's a bit of a gamble that it might be a 1 year jobbie. Defo a #2 driver contract.

[Autopilot]

There is no way Ferrari wants two number one drivers, They need a subjugated number two capable of the odd win, to support Alonzo and help chip away at the constructors title. It's how it's been for a long time with Ferrari.

http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r600/ivanmills/mas.jpg

[TJ]

No shit. Alonso is one of the best (if not the best) drivers in the field. He has had no turn-around, only his car has changed.

Pastor is a down-syndrome'd pingpingpingping who races in F1 like he did in GP2... in other words, he races as if the cars can't be broken and points aren't important, only wins are important.



Pretty keen to see Bruno smash him for the rest of the season.

Bruno already has - Pastor fuckwit hasnt scored a point since his win.

[Jazza]

I hate pastor but he does have more speed than Bruno. You can learn not to take risks, you can't learn to be much faster at this level

[TJ]

It is actually turning towards Senna in the last few races.

[Sleepy]

http://youtu.be/Be3-J9XtJCw

[Autopilot]

Watched that on gruen sweat... I have no words.

[anton]

http://photo.plebeians.net/d/6014-1/IMG_0738.jpg
http://photo.plebeians.net/d/6019-1/IMG_0740.jpg

[[Jacek]]

goodwood?

[TJ]

http://www.autosport.com/news/grapevine.php/id/101785

hahahhaha even with no racing on pastor finds a way.

[Tom]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsbatI8QKOg

[Autopilot]

How humiliating.

[ChrisGTR]

Fuck me! How do they let this guy drive in formula 1?

[TJ]

29 million dollars, thats how

[Jazza]

He just thinks every surface he is on has the same amount of grip levels or something..

[TJ]

Definitely the kerbs fault, it shouldnt have been there

[Autopilot]

Probably should give Lewis a grid penalty in spa just in case.

[JME]

that was awesome!

[LarryDavid]

good ol' Pasta Marinara at his best

[MGR]

Good effort by Maldonado, but Pizzonia still has him beat.

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[JME]

what an understeering pig......reminds me of a dak dak!

[TJ]

You would understeer off the road too if you came in 70kmh too fast

[Jazza]

Wait.. he's an old F1 driver who doesn't understand the concept of understeer??? WTF

[Autopilot]

If my memory serves me right I believe that he said that he was using his F1 brake point as reference, you know the rest.

[TJ]

Correct.

[Jazza]

Well that's pretty fcking stupid isn't it! And watching the video he still does not understand the concept of understeer, at least in this case! It unders and he turns in more? Duhhhhh..

[Joe]

Potato v1

[Adr3naL1N]

http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/video.aspx?videoid=9A60165F-FD69-40EF-A6DC-3E67390E829F

pretty funny

[JME]

sounds drunk.

[anton]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihQKxezvHQo&feature=related


just found this vid,

[POH73]

2 weeks to go until the withdrawal symptoms subside, in the meantime a quick tunnel run reduce the cravings....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bXFGxCjehIY

[Adr3naL1N]

this break is beginning to kill me now! need spa to hurry up!

[crabman]

Going to have to try and find a pub in Christchurch I can watch the race in. Hang one, time zones... fuck what time in NZ will this be on.....

[Autopilot]

Midnight by my calculations.

[Tocchi]

hey guys, could somebody do me a massive favour?

im going to be stuck offshore for this race, so could somebody record this race (this weekend) for me? and put it on a black dvd or even just a computer file so i can bring around a hard-drive to chuck it on?
im ok with OneHD/Ch10 footage too

will supply a 6 pack for your troubles xoxoxoxo
will supply 2x 6 packs if kimi wins, and lewis has pitstop issues resulting in him crashing out of the race

[fourseven]

I'll download the HD Sky rip for you mate. Will grab my hate when you come to pick it up.

[Tocchi]

oxoxo thanks :)

[Brockas]

Well, it's almost Spa time!

News from the break:

McLaren will be debuting their new 'double-DRS' system which could see them very quick in quali.
Lotus will be racing with their new DRS system for the first time at Spa.
DRS zone has been shortened by 50m.


There are some very decent bets going right now.

Alonso, Kimi, and Romain are all paying 10:1 for pole position.

Kimi is paying $6 for the race win, with Vettel and Hamilton paying $4.25 and $3.25 respectively.

[Jazza]

If Mclaren's system works like the Lotus then brilliant, if it works like Mercedes than massive fail for quali lol.
Unless Ferrari have some good updates or it is wet they might struggle a bit here.

[Kaido]

If Mclaren's system works like the Lotus then brilliant, if it works like Mercedes than massive fail for quali lol.
Unless Ferrari have some good updates or it is wet they might struggle a bit here.

Ferrari have an upgrade package for Spa but don't think its anything major (might just be the front wing they have try 3 times lol), Big package is due for Singapore.

[Jazza]

I love how they work.. get Massa to evaluate parts to not disrupt Alonso. Massa can't tell if it is any better after three races so they give it to Fred to says yes or no in one.

[Kaido]

I love how they work.. get Massa to evaluate parts to not disrupt Alonso. Massa can't tell if it is any better after three races so they give it to Fred to says yes or no in one.

From what Ferrari have been saying it was an issue with computer data not matching track data... They said they know what the issue is now and it should be fix.

Seems like they have gone back to the old way of Ferrari thinking... Don't Race with a new part/update unless they are sure it will produce results

[Bomber]

They said they know what the issue is now and it should be fix.
Nut behind steering wheel? lol

[Kaido]

Well, it's almost Spa time!

News from the break:

McLaren will be debuting their new 'double-DRS' system which could see them very quick in quali.
Lotus will be racing with their new DRS system for the first time at Spa.
DRS zone has been shortened by 50m.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/102045

McLaren will not debut double DRS at Belgian Grand Prix

McLaren boss Martin Whitmarsh has denied rumours that the team will introduce double DRS at this weekend's Belgian Grand Prix, but left the door open for the appearance of such a device later in the year.

There had been speculation that McLaren would become the third Formula 1 team to employ such a system, which gives a straightline speed boost by stalling the airflow over wings.

Mercedes pioneered it at the start of the season, before Lotus' version made its debut in German GP practice.

When asked by AUTOSPORT if a McLaren double DRS would appear at Spa, Whitmarsh dismissed such suggestions. But he also hinted that a comparable system might be in the pipeline.

"There is no doubt that the double DRS is interesting, but I think there are other variants of it starting to be seen on other teams' cars, so they might not follow a pattern that we saw on the Mercedes," he said.

"But we are not announcing when, where or if we are going to introduce it.

"I think people will see different wing variants, certainly on our car in scrutineering tomorrow and as they take to the track.

"So we will see new bits but McLaren will not have a double DRS in Belgium."

Lotus is set to race its double DRS for the first time this weekend if the system performs without problems in practice.

Spa is regarded as the ideal track for the device due to its long straights and the potential for drag reduction.

Although Monza has similarly long straights, it requires minimal drag levels so double DRS would not offer as great a benefit.

AUTOSPORT revealed last month that double DRS would be banned for 2013.

[Brockas]

Awesome!

[Kaido]

FP1 Is Live! And its Raining!

http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/68757/3/f1---belgian-spa-francorchamps-grand-prix---practice-1-live-stream-online.html

[Brockas]

An entire ocean has been deposited on the track...

[Bomber]

Go Sauber!

No-one said. Ever

[Adr3naL1N]

just saw some pics. wow

glad its not gonna be like this all weekend!

[Jazza]

Webber managed to get a gearbox penalty when they did no running in FP1/2 hahaha.

[Adr3naL1N]

vettel out!!

[Frenchy]

But/kob/mal.........WTF

[Buckets]

JENSON !!! FUCKING YES, YES, YES ! That's more like it !

[ELUSIV]

But/kob/mal.........WTF

This ^

138% chance pasta will rear end one of those two in the first lap...

[Lonewolf]

jenson very impressive
kamui and pastor at the front, man its going to be an "interesting" start tomorrow

[Buckets]

Isn't potato still under investigation for being a potato in Q3 ?

[Tocchi]

i hope so im very worried about him starting next to kimi haha

[Kaido]

Isn't potato still under investigation for being a potato in Q3 ?

3 place grid penalty for blocking, he will start 6th

[Bomber]

3 place grid penalty for blocking, he will start 6th
LOL, that means he will be right in the middle of an Alonso/Hamilton sandwich with Sergio directly in the line of fire of one of Potato's BLAT moves. Webber's penalty actually takes him out of Potato's way and gives him enough space to see the carnage and drive around it. Could actually make up a more than a few places if Potato goes and gets himself mashed.

[Jazza]

Did you just write Webber and making up places in the first lap in the same sentence? There's a reason he is the worst driver on the grid for losing places on the first lap mate!

[V70R]

Given the 'musical chair' grid spots, I feel we're going to have an exciting opening lap tonight.

[Alt_F4]

http://i.qkme.me/3qqaqd.jpg

[SimonR32]

Did you just write Webber and making up places in the first lap in the same sentence? There's a reason he is the worst driver on the grid for losing places on the first lap mate!

Last year yes... This year not so much

[Jazza]

lol go check the record books, it's every year! They were talking about the fact he could never launch any of them, even the Jaguar etc

[Bomber]

Did you just write Webber and making up places in the first lap in the same sentence? There's a reason he is the worst driver on the grid for losing places on the first lap mate!
I said "could"

[Jazza]

Lewis and Jenson overlay.. you don't see these posted up very often!
http://instagram.com/p/PETRF0r08G/

[Autopilot]

Go Sauber!

No-one said. Ever

Go Sauber!

and the term is "said no one, ever"


http://distilleryimage2.instagram.com/524e9ea6f38911e19b6422000a1e95d8_7.jpg

[Bomber]

Go Sauber!

and the term is "said no one, ever"
OMG so sorry. I am so embarassment.

P.S. If you check back I've been a massive fan of Kamui since he started racing full time in F1....needs moar italics...

[Autopilot]

Didn't realise, I rate kamui too. Took it to heart, was looking for arguil.

[siladee]

Hectic start!

[mehow2g]

HOLY SHIT!!!

[Lonewolf]

fucking wow.
championship race blown apart at first corner.

ricciardo up to 6th thanks to that :)

[Adr3naL1N]

WOW!!!! Welcome back f1!

grosjean the second potato

[Autopilot]

Grojeans doesn't know how to start a race, dickhead.

[JME]

YES!!!! what a start!!!!

[ALEX.]

Oh F1. Let's never part again.

[mehow2g]

Pastor jump the start a bit or what?

[Joe]

Gutted that Alonso is out, happy that Hammy is out.


Boooourns

[Buckets]

Fucking BANG !!! And the championship is blown wide open again !

[JME]

potatoe!!!!!

[pgc]

Haha, the missus - who never watches F1 - is shouting, "Where's the replay? Where's the replay?"

[Lonewolf]

keen to see onboard from grosean

redbull is so slow in a straight line :(

[Sebdullah]

Ricciardo doing bloody well
Why cant redbull get their shit right when they get a chance like this :(

[Adr3naL1N]

fucking webber so slow, vettell passes him!! needed to get passed senna

Come on DR!! could be in line for his highest finish!

[Joe]

Lol @ Karthikeyan and Kovalainen collision in the pits. Cripple fight!!!

[Buckets]

How could Roman not know he caused that pile up ?

[Fukushima]

I for one hope that hamilton is punished

[Adr3naL1N]

new record for ads tonight i think...pathetic

[jaybee]

fucking tell me about it.

[JME]

C'mon Button, fairytale second half of the season! Go!

[Adr3naL1N]

not good for DR either, vergne extends his points lead over him :(

[Buckets]

Bloody brilliant Jenson ! Bloody brilliant. When he has the car he's seriously top of his game !

[Douche Bag]

Fucking podium interview BS

[TheChad]

Fuck this podium interview shit sucks arse.

We want journalists asking good questions not people who can barely speak English asking generic questions...

[SSICK]

Buttons Gf.............hnnnnnnnnnnnngggg

[Joe]

The podium interview is so the fans at the track can hear from the drivers.. which is a great thing, especially considering that the interviewer is usually a famous past F1 driver.

The post race conference still occurs afterwards, its just that One HD choose to not show it anymore in lieu of the podium interviews.. so blame One HD!

[TheChad]

The podium interview is so the fans at the track can hear from the drivers.. which is a great thing, especially considering that the interviewer is usually a famous past F1 driver.

My laptop overheated so I had sit through a commercial break and that was all I got this week.
2/3 have been drivers, what about that useless singer that was up last time?

[Jazza]

I did my usual dummy spit after Grosjean's effing stupid move. Hopefully he is punished badly because he caused a seriously dangerous situation and it's not the first time he seemingly doesn't know the dimensions of his car. From Alonso's on board that would be a proper pants moment!
Where did DR end up finishing?

[Jazza]

Saw this on tocchi's page
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/300486_418477168211479_365078977_n.jpg

[Brockas]

WOW

Grosjean receives 1 race BAN for the collision.

That's a huge penalty. Deserved, but huge.

[TJ]

Thanks to Rhett got home from holidays right in time to see the carnage of T1.

Gutted for Lewis, and Koba, Perez, Fred too - they all did nothing wrong.

Stoked with the pace of the McLaren - two wins on totally different track - both of them through sheer tyre conservation and pace.

[Tocchi]

as le TJ posted on fb

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/102185


shhhiiit thats deserved but not seen often. 1 race ban for romain

[Sully]

I'll bet that's got potato worried now. Next wrong step and he's chips

[TJ]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/424236_10151071564859790_1451765739_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/551986_10151071510074790_1346594980_n.jpg

[DrKarl]

The thought of the cost associated with those repairs!!!

It looked like romains fault although i also think hamilton could have move over a little further also and avoided the whole collision.

Feel sorry for the teams that worked to have it there just to have the cars skunted on the first corner.

[DISTRBD]

i also think hamilton could have move over a little further also and avoided the whole collision.
.

Looked like he already had tyres touching whiteline when contact was made so not sure where you would expect him to move across too .

[EVLO]

http://www.f1sa.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=34850:f1--formula-1-mclaren-twittergate-deepens-as-hamilton-reveals-more-team-secrets&catid=1:f1&Itemid=157

he's a joke, wants to pull out of the race after 1 lap a few races ago cause he got a bad start, now sharing team secrets cause he's slower than button..

[SimonR32]

Very bad that the stewards are moving to "outcome" based decisions... Going to be worse than the AFL MRP!

The only reason the ban is so severe is because of the damage caused, not because the severity of the offence.

[Buckets]

http://www.f1sa.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=34850:f1--formula-1-mclaren-twittergate-deepens-as-hamilton-reveals-more-team-secrets&catid=1:f1&Itemid=157

he's a joke, wants to pull out of the race after 1 lap a few races ago cause he got a bad start, now sharing team secrets cause he's slower than button..

It's just more proof Lewis is a fuckstick. I don't care if he's a good driver he's a twat. I believe he decided he didn't want to run the new bits and Jenson did. the new bits were faster and then Lewis decides to have a cry about it and post technical information about the parts on Twitter in some attempt to explain why it's the cars fault he's slower then Jenson. (Ignoring the fact he choose to run the old parts)

The blokes a pingpingpingping and while it will in fairness be hard to find something with his raw talent if he leaves Mclaren I'll be happy.

[TheChad]

Can someone copy paste what's been said on twitter? Im on my iPhone and the site linked just takes me to dodgey looking porn sites before I can select anything.

[EVLO]

'The Lewis Hamilton Formula One ‘McLaren Twittergate’ affair deepened on Sunday.

On Saturday, 'Tweets' posted by the 2008 World Champion and featuring the obscenity acronym 'WTF' (WHAT THE F**K) suggested Jenson Button had been given a better front wing in qualifying.

The Tweets were deleted.

Then, ahead of Sunday's Belgian Grand Prix, the ‘McLaren Twittergate ' affair shifted into a higher gear when Hamilton posted via his social media account an image of a confidential McLaren telemetry sheet.

The sheet was apparently evidence of Button's qualifying advantage at Spa Francorchamps, with hand written remarks making clear Hamilton lost '6 tenths on the STRAIGHT' to the sister McLaren.

It also included sensitive team information, including the MP4-27's ride height.

"He was asked to take it down and he did it immediately," team boss Martin Whitmarsh is quoted by the BBC.

The affair comes amid Hamilton's reported tense negotiations with McLaren over his new contract for 2013.

"This is effectively a war," an unnamed paddock member said.

Whitmarsh, adding that Hamilton apologised, explained: "He misjudged the (telemetry) situation.

"He wasn't thinking clearly, obviously."

The 27 year old British driver crashed at the first corner on Sunday, and did not appear for interviews during the race.

Afterwards, he said: "I really don't want to talk about the start. People can see what happened."'

[Jazza]

I posted the tweet before but obviously as it says it's been deleted. It showed telemetry data of where Button was faster on the straights and the comment read "something something wtf, we chose the wrong wing, I'll have to support Button in the race and see how we can do"

The telemetry should never of been posted up but his response to what had happened in quali was exactly what any other drivers would of been, standard media and Lewis haters blowing something up. It's hardly a big deal.
Also fairly sure it was the rear wing not the front wing.

[TJ]

Yup rear wing.

Lewis and the team decided to use the old wing because after Q3 Lewis hadnt got a clean lap in and wasnt sure if it worked.

The WTF would have come when he saw the 6 tenths in sector 1.

But it is Lewis, gotta bag him wherever.

[Buckets]

Fair call "WTF" it's the standard response to loosing 6 10th's in one sector but usually it would be expected that information of that nature is highly confidential and not something to post on the internet for the world and your competitors to see.

[Jazza]

You could look at the sector times and see the same info as the telemetry photo he had posted, it had a few bits of information on the side of it but the important stuff was out of the photo it was just lines showing usual telemetry. Shouldn't of been posted but hardly revealing much to the competitors unless people were unsure on where to accelerate/brake lol

[TJ]

Yeah I dont overly agree with it, but the only info really readable was ride height - what anyone could do with that after q3 with cars in parc ferme I am not sure.

Spa is cursing Lewis.

08 - passgate
09 - taken out
11 - takes self out
12 - taken out

[Tom]

For those who missed the start, like me.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-GsNxWaKAgew/UENQWZVh_vI/AAAAAAAAAHw/sTbA2qXSUQs/s450/f1start.gif

and:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YCQl5NVX13U/UENQ5BtmT6I/AAAAAAAAAH4/q-p3Cab9t_M/s450/alonsospa.gif

[Joe]

I wonder what Alonso was thinking at that point? I would have been like "Lotus out of fucking nowhere".

Very lucky the Lotus crossed where it did on the nose of the Ferrari.. if it was closer to the cockpit, Alonso could have very well lost a hand, which was above the cockpit line when he was turning the wheel into the corner!

[Huy]

http://goodknews.com/images/2012/09/hamilton-angers-team-with-tweet_tmwtt_0.jpg

Is this what he Tweeted?

[Brockas]

Hamilton's telemetry post:
http://i46.tinypic.com/2udzywg.png


That crash was insane. Very lucky nobody was hurt.


I don't think the stewards were reacting due to the severity of the crash, they were reacting to another incident caused by Romain. He wasn't ready for F1 the first time, and he's quickly showing that he's not ready this time either.

He's fast when nobody is around him, but he can't race in a pack.

[TJ]

Bingo - its not the one off incident - its the continued issues.

[Buckets]

Bingo - its not the one off incident - its the continued issues.

So why's Potato still racing? It's only a matter of time before he fucks up BIG time again. Roman deserved an arse kicking and the penalty is fair but how Pastor gets to race week after week is beyond comprehension.

[Brockas]

So why's Potato still racing? It's only a matter of time before he fucks up BIG time again. Roman deserved an arse kicking and the penalty is fair but how Pastor gets to race week after week is beyond comprehension.

He copped 2 penalties for this week's actions.


5 places for the false start, and 5 places for the collision with Timo.

I agree, he probably should receive a ban, and I'm guessing at some stage throughout the season he probably will.

[TheChad]

100% Grojeans fault, it's obvious.

However when I was watching it on the tv I kind of thought that Lewis did seem to have another 20cm of road, but fair enough it looked like grojean was coming further across no matter what.

I kind of feel like Hamilton just expects nobody around him to challenge him sometimes, a few incidents this year where it seems he's been more like well if they are going to drive like that then we are going to crash...

Sure, the incidents aren't his fault, but he could pay attention to the fact not everyone is going to drive smooth and clean around him.

On the flip side he doesn't really pull dangerous moves on others.


Anyway, I actually like hamiltons driving most of the time, I just feel like he'd be better off taking into account that not everything goes perfect around him.

[EVLO]

I dont' hate Lewis, i think he's a fantastic driver, but he's a f*cking crybaby.

[Joe]

Bingo, hence why a lot of people didn't shed a tear when he crashed out. Reminds me much of Casey Stoner.

[fourseven]

I don't think the stewards were reacting due to the severity of the crash, they were reacting to another incident caused by Romain. He wasn't ready for F1 the first time, and he's quickly showing that he's not ready this time either.


He was penalised because of the potential for injury, and the fact he took serious championship contenders out of the race. Straight from the FIA press release.

The £40,000 fine was a response to his seven first-lap crashes in 12 races.


Double world champion Alonso refused to criticise Grosjean, who was his team-mate at Renault (which is now Lotus) in the second half of 2009. "I am not angry," Alonso said. "No-one do this on purpose. They were fighting, two aggressive drivers on the start, Lewis and Romain and this time it was us in the wrong place and the wrong moment and we were hit.

All class.

[Jazza]

Bingo, hence why a lot of people didn't shed a tear when he crashed out. Reminds me much of Casey Stoner.

Just like how his response to this was I don't want to talk about it you can all see what happened.
I no longer acknowledge your existence.

[Buckets]

Very sportsman like from Fred.

[TJ]

Lewis said something similar - pretty good effort by both to be reserved.

[Joe]

Just like how his response to this was I don't want to talk about it you can all see what happened.
I no longer acknowledge your existence.

So does this mean that I can't grope your biceps anymore then?? :(

[Jazza]

All I see is a blank post.. hahaha </3

[Brockas]

All I see is a blank post.. hahaha </3
Don't block posts from Joe. Did that today on Facebook. Ended in some decent rage.

[Skitzo]

HAHAHAHA. I instigated and then sat back and watched. Joe is just a protective and proud father. Took the bait too easily. Sorrry Joe.

Back on topic - Crowds reaction when it's Kimi's turn to be interviewed. Much love for him.

[pgc]

http://www.roundplastic.com/alonso.gif

[TJ]

http://imgur.com/a/ETPea

brilliant

[TJ]

http://www.abload.de/img/untitled-25giuz3.gif
and
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-GsNxWaKAgew/UENQWZVh_vI/AAAAAAAAAHw/sTbA2qXSUQs/s450/f1start.gif
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YCQl5NVX13U/UENQ5BtmT6I/AAAAAAAAAH4/q-p3Cab9t_M/s450/alonsospa.gif

[Lonewolf]

http://www.roundplastic.com/alonso.gif

LOL

[Jazza]

http://imgur.com/a/ETPea

brilliant

lol yeh right! If he was watching the accident he would of turned away from the incident not tried to make a spinning Ferrari go over the top of his front wheel. Whoever made that is effing stupid!

[r32pat]

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/button-disappointed-hamilton-revealed-mclaren-secrets/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

going to leave this right here..

[fourseven]

Not a good time to be having a shit fight mid-contract negotiations.

[Brockas]

But I thought Jensen and Lewis were like brothers?

[POH73]

They are! I've seen the advert on TV and the McLaren Stable doco - bestest of friends!! :)

[Jazza]

Someone made this up.. awesome looking concept imo. Massa would of loved this! ;)
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/204897_493052197372804_235210394_o.jpg

[MGR]

Looks awesome, but definitely form over function in this case.

[POH73]

It DOES look mint, especially the low profile rubber which they're talking about introducing in the next couple of years to "modernise" the look. From memory current F1 wheels are 13 dia"?

I don't think I'd want to be in one upside down with a fuel fire though....

[Joe]

Only problem with canopies such as above, is the driver getting out of the vehicle quickly... what will happen to the 5 second time limit that is critical to fire protection of the driver?

I suppose they could blow the canopy off if need be like a fighter jet, but thats going to be complex and heavy and I doubt that anyone would want to have explosive charges aboard the cars.

What about the cleanliness of the windscreens? Dirt will reduce visibility, and this will create a safety issue. Windscreen wipers on F1 cars? Can't and won't happen.

There has to be other ways.. a small forward roll hoop structure, or maybe even a solution similar to those pop-up roll hoops used in convertibles, but adapted to sense when something (such as a wayward vehicle) is ingressing the cockpit. Active safety is something that shouldn't be too hard to integrate.

In relation to addressing flying components i.e. Massa Hungary 2008 incident, passive protection isn't the answer.. the answer is safety via design. In other words, to ensure that components are designed in a way that they are captured and can't possibly come loose of the car i.e. flying wheels are tethered and have been since Senna died, although this too is limited in its use, as we've seen lots of flying wheels since (Henry Surtees in GP2 was the most recent flying wheel casualty in high level motor racing). Other components that can be deadly are generally captured within bodywork anyway.. suspension bits and springs going missing is extremely rare, and I don't think we'll ever see it again.

We can't completely rule out anything happening, if F1 had to make changes to pre-empt any racing incident, then the cars would look nothing like they are now.. they'd have to be completely redesigned to be safe in every single way. Motorsport is dangerous, and only so much can be done to prevent people getting hurt. I think there isn't too much more that can be done to save F1 drivers from potential injury, that hasn't already been done. They are the absolute safest race cars in the world, and the track record of injuries and deaths in modern time is better than a lot of other sports out there!

[Jazza]

A closed cockpit would be more aero functional than an open one MGR.. so I'm not sure what you mean?
I don't think we'll see that anytime soon I just think it's a cool concept design!

[Skitzo]

Fuck that looks sweet though.

[Sully]

It'll probably be more of a cage style design. They'll still want the cockpit to be open for safety reasons and it's also something that F1 always has been, it wouldn't be the same if it was closed in.

It'd be best if they left the teams to design their own protection systems, set a safety requirement to be met, and let them run free with it. We'd get all sorts of different ideas.

[Brockas]

A closed cockpit would be more aero functional than an open one MGR.. so I'm not sure what you mean?
I don't think we'll see that anytime soon I just think it's a cool concept design!
Mark is probably taking about the low-nose design and large rim size.

[FranZ]

Those saying that the closed canopy wouldn't work; need I mention Audi with the lemans racers; they went from an open to a closed top design. Peugeot run a closed car too. Regarding time to get out in an accident or a dirty windscreen; F1 is not the only form of motorsport, they are plenty of closed type cars (including space frame, prototype and production cars) that race and crash and require tear offs or windscreen cleans during pit stops.

The only reason the closed canopy wouldn't work is it goes away from the "formula" type of racing vehicle.

Joe - tethers on wheels/tyres; wheel went bouncing along the track on the first corner incident at Spa on the weekend, that tether didn't work!

[V70R]

Looks awesome but wtf is with that car ariel poking up from behind the cabin.

Low profile tyres would look nice however, given the amount of force each F1 car puts on its tyres during each race, I cant see them making one lap under current conditions before being ripped to shreds. I like the concept though.

[Sully]

Franz I have no doubt that they could make a closed in cockpit work, in fact it'd solve a hell of a lot of issues for them, aero, safety, visibility, etc. It would just take something away from the spectacle. There's something about seeing the driver out in the open rather than cocooned away inside a cabin. I don't think too many of the drivers would be for it if there was a viable open topped alternative.

[Autopilot]

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/386055_4191673802771_480504521_n.jpg

[Brockas]

Franz I have no doubt that they could make a closed in cockpit work, in fact it'd solve a hell of a lot of issues for them, aero, safety, visibility, etc. It would just take something away from the spectacle. There's something about seeing the driver out in the open rather than cocooned away inside a cabin. I don't think too many of the drivers would be for it if there was a viable open topped alternative.
Bingo. Would definitely take away from the spectacle. Won't have drivers gesturing to each other any more, or fist pumping when they win etc. It will all just look boring IMO.



Joe - tethers on wheels/tyres; wheel went bouncing along the track on the first corner incident at Spa on the weekend, that tether didn't work!
Actually, Spa was the perfect example of the tethers working the way they are designed.

If you have a look at the .gif below, you can see 1 wheel come off and only after Grosjean lands. In times gone by there would have 5+ wheels flying off in all directions.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-GsNxWaKAgew/UENQWZVh_vI/AAAAAAAAAHw/sTbA2qXSUQs/s450/f1start.gif

Wheel also came off Karthikyan's car later in the race, but that was because it was cross threaded in the pits, so the failure was wheel-hub, not hub-subframe. Tether couldn't prevent that.

[Fukushima]

lol yeh right! If he was watching the accident he would of turned away from the incident not tried to make a spinning Ferrari go over the top of his front wheel. Whoever made that is effing stupid!


http://imgur.com/a/D9cCM