Racewars 2014 - Entries now open!

[fourseven]

http://i.imgur.com/DINVgNS.png

The Racewars Group is proud to present Racewars 2014! We're already in the planning stages, more details will follow shortly.

In the meantime you can keep up to date on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theracewarsgroup

[Fukushima]

in on juan

[huggy_b]

Entry form and money already sent and accepted. Bring it on!

[fourseven]

Lies!

[S85FI]

Me too haha. Plan to be there with forced induction so I can keep up with all the other modded cars...

[S133LTR]

Dunno if I'll go ay.. Its a long drive, theres no motorbikes, too many cars, timing gears off, the plane was boring.....

[n1ghth4wk]

Doubt I'll have the GTR ready, but keen to help out again.

[dak dak]

Can't wait but if my engine blows 2 days before the event again I will rage....

[Buckets]

I might come along and see what all the fuss is about.

[TJ]

Cant wait to visit Jankatchem again

[Damo 69]

keen

[S85FI]

CAN NOT wait to detail car for the wind free Shire.

[Tocchi]

Dunno if I'll go ay.. Its a long drive, theres no motorbikes, too many cars, timing gears off, the plane was boring.....

* have to bleed brakes

[200MPH]

May or may not get around to fitting big cam purchased for 2013 Racewars. Because going maybe 5 km/h or so faster, that's where it's at. Apparently.

[DISTRBD]

Entries open ?

[Evman]

Let's see what can break on the drive up this time lol

[Socrates]

Happy to support as always

[revs13]

Any news on whether they'll be some other activities of the corner variety?

I'll enter something regardless.

[Brockas]

This link is bookmarked for this exact reason...
http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/AMS-Nissan-r-35-r35-GT-R-Bolt-on-Turbo-Upgrade.html

[Skitzo]

I'll even come back from Canada for the weekend to enter. That's how good it is.

[DAN [GTI]]

Great news that it is going ahead. Should be a great event with the experience and learning curve from the last event.

With the complaint of stone chips from the last event might be worth people investing in a clear wrap on the front end to minimize the possible damage. I am sure Wrap Magic or GT Graphics would able do the job.

Or follow the American method and drop into Bunnings for some tape :rolleyes:
http://carsxhype.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/paolo_1.jpg

[kal]

keen for this, will deffinatly enter this next year

[jaba]

Also keen. If you need volunteers I'm willing to lend a hand.

[Damo 69]

anyword on dates?

[Buckets]

Keen to give these Hoosier A6's a whirl on the 2014 Racewars rental car ! The US airstrip drag scene guys seem to run them and rave about them. Will either mean 1 km/h extra top speed or a blown diff ! :D

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTCgFJKqD8EppdyJ0mDMugHUK-QDhwLTzjeyZitV_kqkUbHciqR-A

I'll take a set out and see what they're like on the surface 1st as our airstrip isn't quite the same spec as a disused B-52 Stratofortress runway but if they are as good as the yanks make out get on it lads !

[volt_bite]

Can't wait to sign up again, and hopefully car will actually be ready. haha

[DBLDOSE]

Plan to be there in the Volvo with a 3L bottom end, tubbed rear end, big boost and e85!

[TargaHatch]

Keen!

[JME]

This will be a fantastic event.

[heavyduty1340]

In In and In = Would love to get FI on the Monaro and possible bring the wifes blown and cammed VE.

I would quite easily sell a couple of cars to dedicate one set build for this style of racing as it is fucking hands down the best fun I have ever had in a car "legally"

I brought approx. 10 mates with me, and 2 have gone out and bought projects, and all will be back as spectators next year!

How would the rules handle an open top car such as a Cobra?

[Buckets]

For what it's worth guys the vehicle regulations for 2014 will be very similar to 2013. We will tighten the rules a little for some of ultra high performance entrants but for 99% of entrants it will be as it was this year.

From memory Ian open top vehicles are permitted providing a certified roll over protection system is fitted with a minimum of 4 points. I'll have to check the exact wording for you though.

[heavyduty1340]

Cool - I'm warming to the idea of an "off tap" blown Cobra or even an early Ford.

Seen a nice 37 Ford for sale recently that would be an easy conversion back to a Racewars Warrior

[S85FI]

For what it's worth guys the vehicle regulations for 2014 will be very similar to 2013. We will tighten the rules a little for some of ultra high performance entrants but for 99% of entrants it will be as it was this year.

From memory Ian open top vehicles are permitted providing a certified roll over protection system is fitted with a minimum of 4 points. I'll have to check the exact wording for you though.

Whats ultra high performance? As in turbo upside type?

[Buckets]

Whats ultra high performance?

This is something we're working with our technical advisers and in turn insurers to properly classify and determine what additional safety equipment they will require to compete.

Basically if you've got a car with dramatically more power than stock don't think you can enter with sub standard stock brakes and no supporting other modifications. Seeing just how potent some of the top performers were really rammed home that we need to ensure they have the brakes and other safety components to back up their car's brawn.

Car's like some of those that Active's bought or the Locatori F6 are total and utter monsters (I'm not pre-empting anything here and I don't want to be seen to be picking on anyone in particular but these are awesome car's we want to see back next year that have batshit crazy performance that I can think off of the top of my head.). Given the right circumstances they could smash 300 (if they can grip up) which I guess will put some focus on us to get the owners to ensure they can safely stop after a big run and have some provisions to deal with an accident at high speeds.

We all saw what happened to the Actives GTO and we all know that if that car wasn't so well built it could have ended up a whole lot worse for the occupants and the ongoing viability of our event.

While our focus might be on the "ultra performance" or "pro class" is another way of putting it I guess; I'd like to encourage ANYONE & EVERYONE thinking about entering to take some time and consider what safety modifications they are going to do to their vehicle this year not just what crazy power mods they've got in store for their car. The vehicle safety standards are a minimum standard required, there is nothing preventing you from going above and beyond these standards and spending a few bucks to potentially save your arse. We didn't require the Actives GTO to have a cage but Eddie had one in there anyway and it paid off for him big time.

Food for thought people...

[fourseven]

Just a little tease.

http://i.imgur.com/Qf5gimm.jpg

[Magic]

Keen to record motor vehicles and contribute to polluting the environment.

[S85FI]

Thanks Buckets.
Was hoping for something like that. As long as RW doesnt lose its intent for the cars it draws then it will still be awesome. I think RW 13 had an awesome blend of cars, most particular the efforts people put in their non exotic machines. It just shows the passion one has.

Can not wait to see another line up of cars of all sorts.

[Buckets]

We are and always will be a grass roots event for people who want to have a good, fun and safe way to enjoy their vehicles.

Our goal is to keep it as simple and inclusive as possible while doing what we can to ensure everyone canpack up on Sunday afternoon in one peice with some great memories and a smile on their face.

[joshg123]

Whats racewars?

[r32pat]

Keen as! E85 conversions on the cards for the Warrior!

[Macca]

I might come get burnt

[romonski]

Can't wait to sign up again, and hopefully car will actually be ready. haha

2nd this.

[S85FI]

I might come get burnt
maybe you know someone that could see you some over head shade huts :)

[GTRgav]

A few tweaks have already started:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/72551272/Blasted%20Shell%20small.JPG

[TJ]

Did Jai drive it again?

:P

[Damo 69]

GTR wars 2014

[rat]

Shut up and take my money

[DISTRBD]

Keen as! E85 conversions on the cards for the Warrior!

Plastic seat covers for when passengers shit their pants :P

[RMCprime]

Im hell keen to enter again. Had a great time last year.

car needs more mods

[reaper83]

keen for a run this year ill be in for sure, i had a ball last year and all i did was help out on the lineups, cant wait to line up myself.

[monk_13]

Keen! In either my shitter (pending broken status) or the missus's Megane. Or both!

[jez321]

Keen!

nos this time?

[assassinnz]

be keen to head out and give it ago

[RG]

Keen to get wooden spoon award for slowest run in the 86 haha. Definitely in for next year.

[Sebdullah]

Keen to get wooden spoon award for slowest run in the 86 haha. Definitely in for next year.

will be competing with blaaa

[huggy_b]

will be competing with blaaa

Will you be presenting the perpetual trophy?

[Buckets]

will be competing with blaaa

As if BLAAA will still have the Toyodok by the time Racewars rolls around next year. Last I heard he was looking at a 35R again.

[Sebdullah]

Will you be presenting the perpetual trophy?

fuck no......& besides I'll prolly be in the pushing unicorn division


As if BLAAA will still have the Toyodok by the time Racewars rolls around next year. Last I heard he was looking at a 35R again.

Already has an insurance scam in the works?

[Buckets]

Pushing the 31 would still be quicker than the Chaser going by last years performance.

[adrenalin]

Keen to get hosed by everything.

[j3rk]

Already has an insurance scam in the works?
He's booked himself in to do more family chores. Cash nps.

[Alt_F4]

Just a thought, I reckon someone should approach United to see if they would like to sponsor Racewars.
Would be a good business case for it if worded just right, I'm sure over half the field would be running e85!

If for no other reason than at least to get a tanker full of fresh jungle juice sitting there for purchase at the event :)

[S85FI]

Good thought - has potential and even if they do 2000 lt or something like that as inkind sponsorship for racers...

[Phyber]

I reckon that's a great idea and I won't even stand to benefit as I'll still be on BP98 jerries.

They could spruik the reduced pollutant output over the race thanks to magical United fuels maybe.

"Hit 250+ over a km and still leave nice smelling air at the same time"

[S85FI]

I reckon that's a great idea and I won't even stand to benefit as I'll still be on BP98 jerries.

Same but it's all about $$$ flow to make the event great. Like 5 star rooms for volunteers.

Maybe a hire company Admin team. I had Coates Hire do an In Kind for my Rally team once. Save me $$$$ on tarps, tools, lighting, car trailers etc.

Gold sponsors to the value of say like 5k (in kind or cash) get a big bonnet sticker or door sticker or something like that on every second car, third or what ever it works out to be.

Shopping list could be steel star pickets.... :)

[Buckets]

Cheers guys, last years event has opened up a few avenues for us to follow up. We did try and get sponsorship last year from the fuel companies however it came to nothing.

And I've got metal star pickets on the shopping list ZZM5 !

If anyone's got hook ups with United or any other company out there which might be keen to sponsor RW14 for that matter PM me their details or alternatively flick me an email at jon@racewars.com.au and I'll be in touch over the next few weeks once we've got or sponsorship packages sorted.

For prospective entrants the focus this year based on your feedback is on more racing especially roll on's and less faffing around during the event. We've listened and believe we'll have an event better event this time around.

Go enjoy the ALM Supercruise at Collie today and we'll have some Racewars related announcements in the near future.

[Damo 69]

redbull sponsor everything - just saying

[S85FI]

What about the 5 star accomodation?

Didnt listen. ..

A serious note did you have sponsor ship proposals written up and mailed to their budget sponsorship places. Verbal leads wont go too far. Happy to draft up such proposal or you can have a look at my last one I did and go from there.

Not trying to step on toes. Like to help out again where I can when I can.

Collie I wish... promised a 7 year old I'll be at her birthday party.... she would be devo if she knew I was hooning..

[Buckets]

redbull sponsor everything - just saying

No they don't... And basically all the sponsorship requests are run through Red Bull HQ in Austria.

Cheers ZZM5 we had written proposals and we're going down the same path again this year.

[PHIL]

i work for a bp distributor. could put it to my boss for me to bring up 20,000lts of 98 and sell at the event

[Blekky]

Will definitely be keen for this, may look at entering the mark II

[fourseven]

i work for a bp distributor. could put it to my boss for me to bring up 20,000lts of 98 and sell at the event

I've sent you a PM.

[S85FI]

Fuck me 16t of 98 that's alot of fuel. How awesome to score that , ..

[PHIL]

we store 250,000lts of it. my truck holds 20,000lts and trailer holds 10,000lts

[Phyber]

Oh man. If that was up there this year I would have gone for more runs! At least a second 1km to get a time recorded.

Shame no local joint stocks BP98 but it's to be expected that far out of the city.

[PHIL]

unfortunately my boss is a cock and has said theres no way he going to consider it. something about insurance and being a fucking bell end. i have some contacts in perth that i will speak. he always says he would like to help the motor sport community but when the chance arises he retracts like a foreskin during happy time.

[Thychiz]

Keen to go this time around! Will try have an 85 tune sorted by then :D

[Macca]

unfortunately my boss is a cock and has said theres no way he going to consider it. something about insurance and being a fucking bell end. i have some contacts in perth that i will speak. he always says he would like to help the motor sport community but when the chance arises he retracts like a foreskin during happy time.

Unfortunately he is right tho. It is a logistical nightmare to have a tanker on site. Especially at an airport

[PHIL]

I did suggest having a standalone tank (1000ltr) and a air pump and disl to pump to cars and wireless eftpos and just top up the portable/standalone when its empty. He said his biggest fear would be some one complaining/accusing of crap fuel. I said if we have our portable tester we should be fine. Ahwell will try other avenues aswell.

[Fukushima]

http://c2.likes-media.com/img/d795c887af0e5dddcda85d0754c88c73.600x

relevant

[WEPONIZED]

Had a ball this year. Will most likely be running again next year. Just need to find where all that red dust was getting inside lol

[Fr3d]

Looking forward to getting chopped by worked r35s, blown 450ci chevs and 1jz silvias again. More power and better traction, came 2nd in the fwd 0-1000m, aiming to go up one place.

[mitchwnz]

^^ Same here haha.

[S133LTR]

Looking forward to getting chopped by worked r35s, blown 450ci chevs and 1jz silvias again. More power and better traction, came 2nd in the fwd 0-1000m, aiming to go up one place.

fuck your 1jz silvia!!

[huggy_b]

Hoping to sit on the 2 step and set a plastic barrier on fire.

[Buckets]

Hoping to sit on the 2 step and set a plastic barrier on fire.

I hope you bring a change of jocks otherwise your shit filled pair will be stinking out the commentary booth.

[huggy_b]

What are "jocks"?

[Buckets]

For anyone who's not on social media or missed today's announcement of the Racewars 2014 dates...
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April 12th-13th - Wyalkatchem

More details will be released soon with entries to open around the same time they did this year.

[Niva]

Been trying to get back in touch with the err young lady I picked up last event as she has a couple of farms out that way but I cant find her number. Only had her saved as "Bingo wings". Even went as far as to drop into her apartments and leave a note on her balcony.. only to later receive a call from a very disgruntled gentleman ranting on about them being a secure complex and wanted to know who the fuck I was, and why I left him my number.

[Fukushima]

Been trying to get back in touch with the err young lady I picked up last event as she has a couple of farms out that way but I cant find her number. Only had her saved as "Bingo wings". Even went as far as to drop into her apartments and leave a note on her balcony.. only to later receive a call from a very disgruntled gentleman ranting on about them being a secure complex and wanted to know who the fuck I was, and why I left him my number.

I skipped the username, read the whole post and thought 'that has to be niva'

[Liberator]

and the other day i was saying this year went to quick . fuck it bring on next year =)

[heavyduty1340]

I'm fucking IN

Cant wait - bring it on!!

[JBAE]

Good to hear bikes are allowed this year!

[Buckets]

Good to hear bikes are allowed this year!

Thanks for being a fuckhead as usual BLAAA.

And before this starts a shitload of questions or rumor and unnecessary emails / PM's we will release the regulations and rules in due course before sign ups open. We have not included provisions for motorbikes to compete and I do not foresee us amending them to do so for the 2014 event.

[Greg Rust]

I'm glad there are no bikes.

[S85FI]

Good to hear bikes are allowed this year!

You never cease to make me laugh...
Poor ol Buckets

[Westoz]

When will the entries be posted?

[SimonR32]

When will the entries be posted?

Here and now :)

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy15/SimonR32GTR/473280_10151902992949616_208791581_o_zps3a07e4a9.j pg (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/SimonR32GTR/media/473280_10151902992949616_208791581_o_zps3a07e4a9.j pg.html)

Yes I'm a little keen haha

[Brett_J]

Screw you underpowered and shit gear ratio'd GTS4 :(

Still time to convert to rwd and better diff ratio's I guess :)

[SimonR32]

Over 1000m I actually think that 4.3 ratio are better than 4.11, my 5th is geared to top out at 333km/hr, 4.3s would be more like 310km/hr so have heaps more pull top end.

RWD conversion is only a push button and a twist of a dial away :)

[Alt_F4]

Plenty of GTR owners (myself included) that would take those 4.3 CW&Ps off your hands Brett!

[Risk10k]

Keeeeen. E85, China gt35r, injectors, pump and toon.


See if I can commit to something for a change. Also will LOL if I have a car ready and I end up looking after catering duties.

[Damo 69]

Over 1000m I actually think that 4.3 ratio are better than 4.11, my 5th is geared to top out at 333km/hr, 4.3s would be more like 310km/hr so have heaps more pull top end.

:)

That’s what you get for sticking to the DITB 5 speed.

[skidkid]

Sweet! Now have a date to get my shopping list sorted by.

Straight pipes + e85 should be fun

[SimonR32]

That’s what you get for sticking to the DITB 5 speed.

All the best with your extra gear change!

Build a RB28 for more torque and then put a close ratio box in so you can only use a tiny rpm window :D

[Nugs]

Can't wait!
Gotta get in quick if you don't want to camp though, all the accomodation in the town is already gone!

[azzada1]

Keen to attend!!

[Damo 69]

All the best with your extra gear change!

Build a RB28 for more torque and then put a close ratio box in so you can only use a tiny rpm window :D

That was my excuse for not buying a Hollinger, ratio’s to close together

[huggy_b]

I'm thinking that project shitbox VN can be a goer for this event..........and tow the the Datsun there as well.


Wuhahahaha. Yeeeees Gary!

[Denver]

Conveniently I paid the deposit for my sequential this week. And I don't need to take a week off this time.

[S85FI]

RW14 is going to be better than the "PRESSURE THREAD".

Hope to be there with a blower kit on. Stock 420hp gets me 254.7 km/h so a blower kit around 520hp hopefully gets me an extra 20-30 km/h.

[Macca]

RW14 is going to be better than the "PRESSURE THREAD".

Hope to be there with a blower kit on. Stock 420hp gets me 254.7 km/h so a blower kit around 520hp hopefully gets me an extra 20-30 km/h.

Still need the balls to push it :p

[SimonR32]

Hope to be there with a blower kit on. Stock 420hp gets me 254.7 km/h so a blower kit around 520hp hopefully gets me an extra 20-30 km/h.

Gee wiz you're going to be asking a whole lot of those extra 100 ponies to go 30km/hr extra

[regi]

special prize this year for 300+ ?

[Dzenci]

This would go alright. Needs some attention and it would win :p

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii439/dzenad1987/45EA5B10-DF06-43A6-9B27-A7A4220ED853-2544-000002DF4F910AA7_zps279bb10f.jpg

[Buckets]

special prize this year for 300+ ?

Same as last year...

Racewars 300 Club Membership will be awarded to anyone who achieves a trap speed of 300 km/h or more over the standing 1000m run.

[Sebdullah]

Same as last year...

Racewars 300 Club Membership will be awarded to anyone who achieves a trap speed of 300 km/h or more over the standing 1000m run.

and has the ability to stop before the end of the runway

[Buckets]

This would go alright. Needs some attention and it would win :p

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii439/dzenad1987/45EA5B10-DF06-43A6-9B27-A7A4220ED853-2544-000002DF4F910AA7_zps279bb10f.jpg

Plane got chopped hard last year, doubt this would be any different :p Only reason it looked close was I asked Tim to lift off in the 12C as we were going past the cross strip to keep it good for the cameras. ;)

[S85FI]

Gee wiz you're going to be asking a whole lot of those extra 100 ponies to go 30km/hr extra



No idea what an extra 100 will get. If that fails diff ratios as I'm still in 5th at 250km/h.

if that fails, cams, Bigger throttle bodies etc.

[S85FI]

Same as last year...

Racewars 300 Club Membership will be awarded to anyone who achieves a trap speed of 300 km/h or more over the standing 1000m run.

From a physics point is it possible? With wind pressure and a really fast closing distance?

I know my car gets past 300 but it needs more than 1000m :(

[Yakky Bear]

More power zelko, alot more. Time for tt kit on the m5.

[Damo 69]

More power zelko, alot more. Time for tt kit on the m5.

strip the interior and put in 2 fixed backs

would loose 200 - 250kgs out of the interior easy

[Phyber]

I got 220 odd kmh in my XR6T (admittedly with slipping auto), winning car was very similar shaped to mine (F6) and has almost double the rwkw. I had 325, he had 600ish from memory, from the same tuner.

Speed difference - about 55kmh, from about 370 more hp!

[Greg Rust]

Velocity^2= power^3
Or something like that

[Fukushima]

wheelspin (making TJ cry) = higher terminal speed, slower time

[Buckets]

From a physics point is it possible? With wind pressure and a really fast closing distance?

I know my car gets past 300 but it needs more than 1000m :(

The current national record from memory for the standing 1000m is ~296.xx km/h which was set at Temora a few years back by a VL Turbo WTAC car. I believe it's been well and truely smashed at international events as well.

In all honesty I believe it will be very difficult to achieve it on the Wylie strip but not impossible.

[S85FI]

Ill go with 100hp kit. I did same speed as 200mph and his car is half the weight so I need to work out how efficient the car uses hp. At the drags in non m mode (100hp) less it pulls a 13.9. In m mode (extra 100hp) it pulls low to mid 12.

Car can be fruited up to 830 odd hp. Its also used as a work car from time to time and needs to be drivable and not draw heat with lumpy cams etc.

I plan to crack 300. If not 2014 then a dinan kit for 2015.works for the euro guys and they get the 300.

[Damo 69]

Just buy the dinan kit now :)

[S133LTR]

#wildclaimwars

[JME]

2 bottles

[SSICK]

Lol fuckin heads in the clouds already.

Fuck R&D.....let's just bolt a kit on and do 300.....

[Greg Rust]

Anyone on here taken delivery of a Mclaren P1?

[Buckets]

Anyone on here taken delivery of a Mclaren P1?

None have been sold in Australia sadly last I heard.

[ossie_21]

Haven't even got all the red dust out from 6 months ago, probably no point trying until after RW2014 :p

[Crammit]

wheelspin (making TJ cry) = higher terminal speed, slower time

If only the regs allowed the removal of windscreen wipers to assist you in joining the 300+ club

[Buckets]

If only the regs allowed the removal of windscreen wipers to assist you in getting in the 300+ club

Windscreen wiper removal will also assist in increasing fuel mileage by improving the aerodynamic efficiency of your capitulation on wheels. This would be relevant to a CX-5 owner like yourself.

[Fukushima]

Windscreen wiper removal will also assist in increasing fuel mileage by improving the aerodynamic efficiency of your capitulation on wheels. This would be relevant to a CX-5 owner like yourself.

Wiper removal is of no benefit to vehicles which remain stationary

[Oversteer]

So what do people think about increase in trap speed by just driving off the line as opposed to full out launches(which is what most of us did last year..)

Seasoned drag racing vets got any views on what there is to be gained ?

ET I feel is still important just for bragging rights and to stop the ....oh but I did a faster ET even tho you technically won on trap etc..hahaha

ZZM5: The hp required to make gains down in the low 11-10flat range is just mind boggling....it seems exponential and then some, can`t even be related to running flat13-flat12...I`m sure someone could do the math on what you need to crack 280 on the Km but I think it would require more data, at the very least 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 et and speed.

[SimonR32]

ET vs trap speed will make an ever bigger difference over 1000m compared to a quarter mile simply because of the longer time taken to travel the distance.

Don't think about speed gained in a certain distance but speed gained in a certain time. If you are on power for 21 odd sec compared to 19 odd sec you are going to be going faster.

I only did one run this year and went for an ET. If I was going for a top speed I would have biased my car heavily to RWD and tried to get more wheelspin off the line or as you said simply drive off the line.

[Oversteer]

Care to make a guess how many K`s faster you would have gone ?

[SimonR32]

Care to make a guess how many K`s faster you would have gone ?

Off the top of my head I would have guessed around 5km/hr... Looking back at the GPS data could possibly be a bit more.

[adrenalin]

Rip motor out of M5

Put in something that doesnt weight 2 tonne aka e30

Skids.

[S85FI]

Understand all being said fellas. All new to me this 1000m stuff. Im just basing my assumptions on what other cars were doing compared to the science of my car.

I.e 1/4 times without looking at the slips I cant Remember the figures. But I remember slow 60 foot times - around 2.4 seconds as it takes a bit of effort to get going. Still get speeds around 116 mph at the end.

The car hauls hard up top end.

In saying the times at the 1000m I was concentrating on not getting wheel spin and was getting same trap speed as 200mph. His seconds were significantly lower.

As to power the car does 416 rwhp measured in 4th at 200km. 6 gear is 1 to 1 so the car would be lower again In wheel power let alone what it is in 7th.

I'll play with it each year - I'll eventually get there.

Blower first at smallest rating then ratios.

I understand how much power is needed to go that 10km/m more- I just need to work out what and how I need it in my car.

G power get the m5 to some 360km/h but thats with and extra 300hp to go past the stock 330.

As long as someone cracks the vl speed that's all that matters and we have 2 cars last years that have the potential.

[Oversteer]

You will need 300hp more to crack 270....don't fuck around and pick an adder that goes well past that.

...look at the hp the top 4 or so cars were making...then look at what they trap 1/4 mile, that is way outside where you are now.

...your comparison to the gt40 doesn't add up either, forget that data.

[S85FI]

Points taken. I guess I need to decide how much money I want to throw at it.

Ill come up with something. .. as long as its quicker than last year I'll be happy.

Someone needs to do it.... you :) can you get more out of yours?

[Oversteer]

I don't know if I can, or really want to spend the money specifically to suit this goal.... enough money, could be done!

My motor has done 34,000Km since built(550-620hp, 8900-9200rpm limiter)....every one knows dak dak's are hand grenades, this one has no pin!

4 cylinders to flow the air puts me behind the eight ball, numbers say its making 200+hp & 210+Nm per cylinder ~610cc.

....may have a reasonably priced plan though, involves 5000cc injectors and a fair chance of not making it past a tune !

[180SXTCY]

someone needs to buy my direct port nos kit and go for gold! :P

[Damo 69]

oversteer
Methanol
40 psi
Don’t be shy

[Oversteer]

someone needs to buy my direct port nos kit and go for gold! :P
Way ahead of ya....2 of the big bottles :D

Its going to be one hell of an explosion !!!

Maybe the TTLS3 SLR5000 will be ready by then.....fuck if I`m game to do 280+ in the slrrr, would require a 5 point harness for my balls !

[180SXTCY]

^haha make it 3 of the big bottles. over night. from japan!

[kyle_340]

definitely keen to enter this year :D
gonna wrap the front end though after reading about deadly rock spray, my cars too much of a show pony :p

[Buckets]

someone needs to buy my direct port nos kit and go for gold! :P

Keen to smash two of the big ones in to the Course Car V2 !

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/533614_10151655650784050_198008663_n.jpg

[Oversteer]

Don`t forget the MoTeC exhaust system ;)


...So what's the event schedule.... spoke to someone who I hope is full of shit today.... is the main event unchanged ??? ie standing start 1Km ????

[200MPH]

definitely keen to enter this year :D
gonna wrap the front end though after reading about deadly rock spray, my cars too much of a show pony :p

Put money into N20 instead of wrap. No stone chips when you're out in front...

Regarding power and speed dreams...well dunno. Cause we really can't trust the speeds (but think we can trust the times) from this years results, comparing my results to the M5 is a bit pointless I think. I know they listed the same speed, but to the second decimal place? Really? In any case, the M5 of ZZ is well suited to this event, having good top end power and plenty of gears to keep it 'on cam', in a variable inlet, variable cam sort of sense... hmm, poor choice of words perhaps.

Regardless, power goes up very much exponentially to get a decent top end speed increase, that much I know for sure. The other thing is that off the line accleration is very much affected by grip and power/weight ratios. But at high speed you don't have grip issues (shouldn't have) and since you are accelerating much more slowly, the power/weight is not so much the concern as power/aero drag. Look at a typical clubman. Very light and hence good power/weight without needing much power (say 150 RWHP for decent 2L NA donk), very quick off the line, but useless once you get much past 160 km/h. Fantastic for 0-100 times, but useless over 1000 m where trap speed is king.

I'll plan to be at RW2014, but will depend a bit on if/when car sells and if I have something else to drive if it does.

[kyle_340]

the fecks n20? google got me no where

[Buckets]

Don`t forget the MoTeC exhaust system ;)


...So what's the event schedule.... spoke to someone who I hope is full of shit today.... is the main event unchanged ??? ie standing start 1Km ????

Unless you hear it from one of the event team or off the Facebook page ect then it's most likely bullshit. Again not wanting to string people on but we'll release the details and event plan in due course. It's going to be similar but not the same. We learnt a lot last year and have made some changes to improve things across various parts of the event including the way it's run on the day.

[Sfidz]

the fecks n20? google got me no where

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrous_oxide

[Oversteer]

Can you at least give me a cryptic clue as to there being a 1Km standing start ?

[kyle_340]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrous_oxide

ahhhh....N2o..... well i feel silly now hahah

[Buckets]

The 1000m standing start is the reason this event exists...

[Oversteer]

Sweet.....time to do some shopping !

[Nugs]

definitely keen to enter this year :D
gonna wrap the front end though after reading about deadly rock spray, my cars too much of a show pony :p
My windscreen is still full of chips!
If you win or lose by a lot (like I mostly did) then you are fine.
It's when you are just losing that you get sprayed bad.
But it's worth it.



Unless you hear it from one of the event team or off the Facebook page ect then it's most likely bullshit. Again not wanting to string people on but we'll release the details and event plan in due course. It's going to be similar but not the same. We learnt a lot last year and have made some changes to improve things across various parts of the event including the way it's run on the day.
This year was awesome, especially for first time out. Will be epic if it's even better next year.

[huggy_b]

If you extrapolate from similar events (ie Texas Mile), to achieve the 300km/h mark you need to start looking north of 1000hp at the wheels with generally a big cube motor V8 and FI. Then you need to hope you get some traction, the suspension is suitably tuned to the track and your diff / gearbox are suitably matched in gearing to leg it out.

The unique distance, track conditions and so fourth are the biggest obstacles to overcome and the fact that you wouldn't really build a purpose spec'd vehicle for an annual event like this (I'm sure I'll get proven wrong there!) and there is very little if any historical data to draw from. I'd be seriously considering a chute to help you pull up if you are serious about trying to hit 300km/h given you'll probably have to drive it through the line and be eating up nearly 100m per second - that run off distance will disappear pretty quick.

I'm super keen to see what cars turn out this year given people now have at least a better understanding of what's required and fingers crossed the timing gear is bang on! Should be another cracking event.

[KAL SPL]

Fwiw the VL that holds the record has 750rwhp ish.

[Buckets]

Horsepower is one factor but at those sort of speed aerodynamics plays an equally important part in achieving a good top speed. Working on reducing drag will result in bigger gains for people than adding another 100hp to their already 600-700hp+ car. Power helps but it's not everything. To achieve 300+ (with some modicum of safety and control) requires serious dollars spent on the entire car not just the engine.

[Fukushima]

Horsepower is one factor but at those sort of speed aerodynamics plays an equally important part in achieving a good top speed. Working on reducing drag will result in bigger gains for people than adding another 100hp to their already 600-700hp+ car. Power helps but it's not everything. To achieve 300+ (with some modicum of safety and control) requires serious dollars spent on the entire car not just the engine.

http://i.imgur.com/4ICQJNv.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/QmPB3Om.jpg



Sorted

[S85FI]

Put money into N20 instead of wrap. No stone chips when you're out in front...

I know they listed the same speed, but to the second decimal place? Really? In any case, the M5 of ZZ is well suited to this event, having good top end power and plenty of gears to keep it 'on cam', in a variable inlet, variable cam sort of sense... hmm, poor choice of words perhaps.

But at high speed you don't have grip issues (shouldn't have) and since you are accelerating much more slowly, the power/weight is not so much the concern as power/aero drag. Look at a typical clubman. Very light and hence good power/weight without needing much power (say 150 RWHP for decent 2L NA donk), very quick off the line, but useless once you get much past 160 km/h. Fantastic for 0-100 times, but useless over 1000 m where trap speed is king.

I'll plan to be at RW2014, but will depend a bit on if/when car sells and if I have something else to drive if it does.

The 160km/h thing makes sense. There were heaps of cars eating me in the 1/4. Actually I don't think I beat any of the cars in the 1/4. But I did notice at the 800m runs I was starting to reel a lot of cars at around the 500-600m mark. Also the speeds I was catching the other cars was around the 160km/h mark. By the 800m I was a long way in front of a lot of stuff and just clicking into 4th gear. I really noticed this with the Lotus that was there.

The cam thing you mention also makes sense as the car advances the cams hydraulically as RPM goes up. Also the cars power ban is constantly around 5000rpm to 8400rpm The Dyno graph shows an almost perfect 45 degree graph in power climb.

The wheel spin thing was an issue for me at high speed. I always got the same warning on the dash around the 600m mark where I would feel the car drift. I thought it was just wind but the stability control would kick in and I would get a "stabilty control - engine power reduced" warning. I would then have to drive the car for 10km outside for the setting to reset. From reading and translating (google from Europe forums) the car needs to have the SMG reprogrammed to prevent the sensors picking up wheel speed variations from front and rear wheels at speed. My understanding is this will let the car ignore drift sensations at speed and allow the car to go under power. The SMG also needs to be reset as I can get 3.6 diff gears and 4.1 but again smg needs to be programmed for 4.1 and greater.

The speeds I'm sure were accurate. At 800m I set my speed alert to chime at 220km/h and it chimed. It chimed at 230 but not 240. I set it at 250 for the 1000 and it chimed but not at 260. So i'm confident that it's correct and it's just a fluke we got the same reading. Also the factory specs claim 250km/h at 1000m.

I think though you were about 1- 2 seconds quicker though.

Although being a little selfish love to see your car there. It's just the best head turner / crowd pleaser and just an awesome looking car that gets up and goes too :)

[huggy_b]

From what I read that VL was 600rwkw or more. I'm pretty sure there's a bit of sandbagging going on. It had a fair bit of aero going on as well....

Regardless, you need some decent hp and/or a fair bit less weight to push.
There seems to be a few serious combos being screwed together for this years event - very exciting.

[Oversteer]

Horsepower is one factor but at those sort of speed aerodynamics plays an equally important part in achieving a good top speed. Working on reducing drag will result in bigger gains for people than adding another 100hp to their already 600-700hp+ car. Power helps but it's not everything. To achieve 300+ (with some modicum of safety and control) requires serious dollars spent on the entire car not just the engine.

Fuck that sounds technical/hard/expensive......lets just throw more hp at the early 90's Jap point and shoot cars and hope they well exceed on aero as they do in most other aspects when "tuned"

Powa can make you a good driver too i hear :D

[SimonR32]

Fuck that sounds technical/hard/expensive......lets just throw more hp at the early 90's Jap point and shoot cars and hope they well exceed on aero as they do in most other aspects when "tuned"

Powa can make you a good driver too i hear :D

AKA

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/LRBGrvMV2bw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Most of the Jap GTR's that do sub 20sec 0-300km/hr (which is around what we are talking about capability wise) use twin high mounts and claimed power of between 950-1200hp.

[Oversteer]

13.7 sec 0-3freaking100 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Holy shit, that might might do the job !

[SimonR32]

Here is a better video of more quick GTR's... As you can see most cars capable are RH9 members which means a 9sec pass on true street tyres (not drag radials). Surface appears a lot better than the airport as well

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/EH7NYOwxJ68" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Brett_J]

Fuck me they are some tough cars, and over 13 years ago, Perth still doesn't have shit like this!

[thommo]

So who's buying a 3037s kit for their gtr?

[S85FI]

Wow - pretty impressive. Just shows how far behind we are on the scheme of things on the international set.

[Damo 69]

So who's buying a 3037s kit for their gtr?

Simon said he would fit twin 3240's if I could find him a kit for 3.5k landed in aus

it went something like that anyway

[Risk10k]

Wow - pretty impressive. Just shows how far behind we are on the scheme of things on the international set.


We must be getting to the point where its cheap enough to buy something with an LS1, and then do stupid mods to it. Like that 6L Caprice or whatever it was being sold in Japan as, chopping the 35R on the freeway.

[Oversteer]

Whats the basic recipe ?

Are they seriously light or stupid power ?.... or just everything !? ..Money?

Seem to be running pump fuel also !?

[Damo 69]

Whats the basic recipe ?

Are they seriously light or stupid power ?.... or just everything !?

Seem to be running pump fuel also !?

Built 26/ 27/ 28 or 30
big high mount twins
atleast 6 044 pumps
nitto drag radials
OS/HKS Sequential
900 - 1200hp

god I love having HPI Magazines from the early 00's in the dunny

[SimonR32]

Simon said he would fit twin 3240's if I could find him a kit for 3.5k landed in aus

it went something like that anyway

Fit them to your car... I'll be more than happy to oblige

[1JZVL]

Built 26/ 27/ 28 or 30
big high mount twins
atleast 6 044 pumps
nitto drag radials
OS/HKS Sequential
900 - 1200hp

god I love having HPI Magazines from the early 00's in the dunny

any idea what fuels they ran????

[SimonR32]

any idea what fuels they ran????

http://media.ziptied.com/members/files/2/HKS%20Drag%20Gas.jpg

[SimonR32]

Simon said he would fit twin 3240's if I could find him a kit for 3.5k landed in aus

it went something like that anyway

I think it went more along the lines of...

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy15/SimonR32GTR/damo_zps86a947af.jpg (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/SimonR32GTR/media/damo_zps86a947af.jpg.html)

[JME]

100ron unleaded on pump when we were frothin 95 ron premium.

[1JZVL]

100ron unleaded on pump when we were frothin 95 ron premium.

They actually listed that stuff, picture Simon put up, on their website...

"High octane (110 Octane)....No bad exhaust fume" :P

;O

[S85FI]

Whats the basic recipe ?

..Money?

This^^^^^^^ And shit loads of it :)

[Damo 69]

I think it went more along the lines of...

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy15/SimonR32GTR/damo_zps86a947af.jpg (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/SimonR32GTR/media/damo_zps86a947af.jpg.html)


http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p530/strap69/SimonRB30_zps9aae5ca5.jpg (http://s1154.photobucket.com/user/strap69/media/SimonRB30_zps9aae5ca5.jpg.html)

http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p530/strap69/SimonT51R_zpsb3615df5.jpg (http://s1154.photobucket.com/user/strap69/media/SimonT51R_zpsb3615df5.jpg.html)



http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p530/strap69/Simonlovesmen_zps4f86452d.jpg (http://s1154.photobucket.com/user/strap69/media/Simonlovesmen_zps4f86452d.jpg.html)

[Brockas]

Definitely sounds like Simon.

[SimonR32]

Clearly that's doctored because I told you it was a Trust 2.7L

[fourseven]

If anyone is after accommodation for next year at the Wyalkatchem hotel, email rhett@racewars.com.au if you want to book. I've got a few rooms left.

[Tre-Cool]

I probably wont take the ve next year, but it'll be the backup car. not sure on which car i'll race but it'll definetly have 2 hair dryers hanging off the motor.

[S85FI]

From earlier on fellas regarding my tug boat. You guys are on to it. To get the m5 across the line I need around 750 or around 650 with diff gears utilising the 7 sp manual.

I'm starting with the 650 kit. Apparently cars not running tws do big end bearings and they don't recommend it for anything with more than 80 oook with no history of oil analysis.

Found a link with cars and oil sample reports with S85 engines with big end failures. Castrol tws was only oil passing test for analysis tests regarding piston and bearing condition and only with engines that had 7500k or less oil changes.

My problem is I don't know history of the car for first 34000km. ( For This purpose and book services are 20k unless driven in adverse conditions). I've been doing 5000k oil and filter changes with tws.

So my question, who in Perth can you drop of oil for analysis for chemical, and metal break down and it needs to indicate averages for the oil.

Can do it with Castrol but want to eliminate postage. This will determine whether car gets forced induction or bearing replacement for forced induction.

Now that I've written this might start a thread for it...

[Damo 69]

While you are replacing the bearings may as well go a built motor?

[Alt_F4]

If your going to build it, you might as well stroke it.

[Turbo2.6L]

LS conversion

[skidkid]

Do the bearing kit regardless.

[Nugs]

From earlier on fellas regarding my tug boat. You guys are on to it. To get the m5 across the line I need around 750 or around 650 with diff gears utilising the 7 sp manual.

I'm starting with the 650 kit. Apparently cars not running tws do big end bearings and they don't recommend it for anything with more than 80 oook with no history of oil analysis.

Found a link with cars and oil sample reports with S85 engines with big end failures. Castrol tws was only oil passing test for analysis tests regarding piston and bearing condition and only with engines that had 7500k or less oil changes.

My problem is I don't know history of the car for first 34000km. ( For This purpose and book services are 20k unless driven in adverse conditions). I've been doing 5000k oil and filter changes with tws.

So my question, who in Perth can you drop of oil for analysis for chemical, and metal break down and it needs to indicate averages for the oil.

Can do it with Castrol but want to eliminate postage. This will determine whether car gets forced induction or bearing replacement for forced induction.

Now that I've written this might start a thread for it...
If you are going to put on a blower I would change the bearings at a minimum. Maybe go with the VAC coated ones.

[adrenalin]

Just twin turbo the fucking thing...

There is proof in europe of the M5's cracking 750+ rwhp.

Do it and see how it goes.... if you dont achieve what you do make the changes for following year or as i said before put the motor into something small and light.

[TJ]

Dodge Viper V10 swap

[Nugs]

Just twin turbo the fucking thing...

There is proof in europe of the M5's cracking 750+ rwhp.

Do it and see how it goes.... if you dont achieve what you do make the changes for following year or as i said before put the motor into something small and light.
I think a 1 series with the S85 should go well.
http://www.bimmerboost.com/content.php?2879-The-1M-that-BMW-should-have-built-E82-1-Series-with-M5-M6-S85-V10-and-SMG-conversion-for-26-000

[-Luke-]

So my question, who in Perth can you drop of oil for analysis for chemical, and metal break down and it needs to indicate averages for the oil.



http://www.westrac.com.au/EquipmentManager/Pages/SOS_Fluid_Analysis.aspx

http://www.komatsu.com.au/MachineManagement/CMS/Pages/KOWA.aspx

Im 99% KOWA use this mob I think they have a local lab

http://www.oilcheck.com.au/

Obviously you would need to run several samples through to establish a trend

[adrenalin]

I was thinking an E30 but that would at least have more of a chance to pull up and be a bit more comfortable to drive.

[Buckets]

Dumb question mate but do you really want to whack an F/I kit on an already highly strung N/A motor especially since you daily drive the car ?

From what little I know of the the F/I kits for the E60 M5 it's a lot of money and risk for not a whole shitload more performance given it's already a solid performer. Your car, your choice but if it were my car I'd whack some pipes and intake kit and a retune on it and spend the rest of the cash on buying a cheap Japper with a bullshit hand grenade motor.

[adrenalin]

Sell E60

buy F10 M5

Wait a few months till all the bolt on kits come out for it.


Buckets pretty much sums it up however.

[SimonR32]

From earlier on fellas regarding my tug boat. You guys are on to it. To get the m5 across the line I need around 750 or around 650 with diff gears utilising the 7 sp manual.

How did you figure out you will do 300km/hr in 1000m with 650hp? Also is that at the wheels or at the crank?

There were cars there this year with a lot more power than that, more torque and much lighter and didn't come close to 300km/hr

[-Luke-]

because bmw

[adrenalin]

http://www.g-power.com/index.php?id=1106&L=1&carid=

Here you go

[p0630034]

If anyone is after accommodation for next year at the Wyalkatchem hotel, email rhett@racewars.com.au if you want to book. I've got a few rooms left.

Emailed.

Can't wait for RW14!

[skidkid]

I'd put money on no car hitting 300km/h at RW with less than 900-1000whp.

[Buckets]

I'd put money on no car hitting 300km/h at RW with less than 900-1000whp.

+ a serious aero package + a serious weight reduction program + plenty of mechanical grip.

The thing that will limit cars is traction off the line (and down the strip depending on power delivery) and wind resistance at speed. The surface is a cold mix type construction (according to our resident civil engineer) so it won't provide the traction for big HP to be put down without serious mechanical grip delivered by an AWD system or 300+ section rear tyre's (Hoosier A6 ect) and heaps of skill in managing the power delivery. More power is not the answer unless it's part of a holistic modification plan for most vehicles.

[duste]

Can we please stop talking sense? I want to see a TT M5 at RW2014...

[DISTRBD]

+ a serious aero package + a serious weight reduction program + plenty of mechanical grip.



I see you have started on the weight reduction :P

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1374371_733298823353309_735210675_n.jpg

[skidkid]

M5 won't hit more than 270 at RW14.

Prove me wrong.

[TJ]

LOL holistic mod program

Big power, wheelspin, win fans, fuck ya'll

Temora 1000

1ST : Jason clements, vl turbo 19.693 / 296.6 - 2011 - so far, the best 1000m time I can find in Aus
http://www.performancegarage.com.au/sites/default/files/blog-content/WTAC(2057).jpg

http://www.performancegarage.com.au/sites/default/files/blog-content/DSC_7245.jpg


It made 630kw at the wheels - 819 HP at the wheels... so making probably 950 at the engine.

Now the heaviest factory VL was 1350kg - this was gutted, plus wing and cage, aero, wheels, brakes, turbo stuff, so probably 1300kg.

It takes a monster of a car to even get close to 300...

So end of the day build something fun go enjoy it and who gives a fuck about the numbers.

[huggy_b]

and who gives a fuck about the numbers.

Sounds like 2nd place talk. Winners give a fuck, winners.

[Damo 69]

Shafts out on the forester

[fourseven]

Sounds like 2nd place talk. Winners give a fuck, winners.

In that case, time to stop messing about with the quarter mile faggots and their rotaries and prep the ute for 1000m runs.

Do it, loser.

[Buckets]

In that case, time to stop messing about with the quarter mile faggots and their rotaries and prep the ute for 1000m runs.

Do it, loser.

There is no way in hell that thing is doing 1000m, it'll bloody well take off at 800m and we'll find bit's of Datsun & Dentist on the outskirts of Dowerin.

[fourseven]

Sounds like 2nd place talk to me. Winners give a fuck, winners.

[DISTRBD]

There is no way in hell that thing is doing 1000m, it'll bloody well take off at 800m and we'll find bit's of Datsun & Dentist on the outskirts of Dowerin.

Couldn't do any worse then a commodore , just check his helmet is done up and life will be fine :P

[Oversteer]

LOL holistic mod program

Big power, wheelspin, win fans, fuck ya'll

Temora 1000

1ST : Jason clements, vl turbo 19.693 / 296.6 - 2011 - so far, the best 1000m time I can find in Aus
http://www.performancegarage.com.au/sites/default/files/blog-content/WTAC(2057).jpg

http://www.performancegarage.com.au/sites/default/files/blog-content/DSC_7245.jpg


It made 630kw at the wheels - 819 HP at the wheels... so making probably 950 at the engine.

Now the heaviest factory VL was 1350kg - this was gutted, plus wing and cage, aero, wheels, brakes, turbo stuff, so probably 1300kg.

It takes a monster of a car to even get close to 300...

So end of the day build something fun go enjoy it and who gives a fuck about the numbers.

I would argue your estimates are conservative.....1050hp flywheel and 1200Kg with driver would be closer !

[-Luke-]

There is no way in hell that thing is doing 1000m, it'll bloody well take off at 800m and we'll find bit's of Datsun & Dentist on the outskirts of Dowerin.

It'll be raining Datsun Cogs



boom tish

[Greg Rust]

Any idea what bag of gears that VL runs?

Porsche made their 7spd box in the 991 GT3 to have top gear as 1:1 to avoid torque multiplication loss with over driven gears.

[huggy_b]

In that case, time to stop messing about with the quarter mile faggots and their rotaries and prep the ute for 1000m runs.

Do it, loser.

My final diff ratio of 5.1:1 is less than ideal for legging it out over 1000m. Surprisingly my drag car is set up to run 400m. Crazy stuff.

I won't pass scrutineering without windscreen wipers

[Oversteer]

Holy crap... bout $3K just for injectors pump and bits to spray 1000hp of meth out of 4 orifices..

https://www.moranmotorsports.com/sites/moranmotorsports.com/files/imagecache/product_full/sites/proloanmods.com/files/Moran%20Racing%20Engines%20fuel%20injector.JPG

...serious business this Racewars !

[S85FI]

While you are replacing the bearings may as well go a built motor?
Apparently bearing can be changed without pulling engine out. Sump splits in two, then crank cradle spits of the block allowing in car bearing change.
Keen to start small and see if I'm want to spend that kind of money on cars again.


If your going to build it, you might as well stroke it.
Along with Damo's response. Also no support or machining gear available here in Perth to machining the off set conrods the S85 has. PLaces in US and Euro do it but won't warranty the engine in Aus do to our lack of assembly knowledge. Can only go by what suppliers provide. Lots of research to still do.


Do the bearing kit regardless.
Most likely will but if the averages results work from the analysis then no point. I've got samples of my oil ready for testing but never got serious. Keen to do it now.


Just twin turbo the fucking thing...

There is proof in europe of the M5's cracking 750+ rwhp.

Do it and see how it goes.... if you don't achieve what you do make the changes for following year or as i said before put the motor into something small and light.

Keen to start on the Stage 1 kits. Might get the guy with the Blown M3 to come to raceswars as his car is meant to go from 400 to 625 with the ESS FI Kit and still a very drivable car.


http://www.westrac.com.au/EquipmentManager/Pages/SOS_Fluid_Analysis.aspx

http://www.komatsu.com.au/MachineManagement/CMS/Pages/KOWA.aspx

Im 99% KOWA use this mob I think they have a local lab

http://www.oilcheck.com.au/

Obviously you would need to run several samples through to establish a trend

Thanks for that - will email all of them Monday. I have old samples good to go.


Dumb question mate but do you really want to whack an F/I kit on an already highly strung N/A motor especially since you daily drive the car ?

From what little I know of the the F/I kits for the E60 M5 it's a lot of money and risk for not a whole shitload more performance given it's already a solid performer. Your car, your choice but if it were my car I'd whack some pipes and intake kit and a retune on it and spend the rest of the cash on buying a cheap Japper with a bullshit hand grenade motor.

If the ESS kits and the Gpower kits are as driavle as they claim then why not? Kit is 12k or 14K fitted. I've contacted Southern BM who are the ESS dealer now for Australia. I spoke to them 12 months ago with anticipation for the ESS kit. Car recently ran out of warranty and will contact Southern again. Accordingly to Southern they have done a few M5 now with pretty impressive stats. I wanted to wait 12 months to see how they are going. Also from Southern, and Euro?US suppliers changing the exhaust from Cat back will not gain the car around 5 hp due to the M system being spot on. Cat forward with products from Supersprint and other high end makers claim massive gains as the Cats and small headers were the only way they could meet emissions.

Other performance gains are high flow AMMs and replacing 10 stock throttle bodies with the high flow ones and cams. Apparently no head improvements can be achieved.

Can get 650 hp stroker kits.


Sell E60

buy F10 M5

Wait a few months till all the bolt on kits come out for it.


Buckets pretty much sums it up however.

Don't like the F10. But yo never know it may grow on me.


How did you figure out you will do 300km/hr in 1000m with 650hp? Also is that at the wheels or at the crank?

There were cars there this year with a lot more power than that, more torque and much lighter and didn't come close to 300km/hr

What some of the euro mobs claim. No idea if it's true. I'm not an expert in this field. But on the same token I've on got 380whp when measured at 1 -1. If engineering and aero's don't come into play then there weren't too many other < 400rwhp that came close to the M5. Cars got 7 forward cogs with tall gearing to do it's 330km/h.


M5 won't hit more than 270 at RW14.

Prove me wrong.
Don't know - don't care, it's something for me..... what did you say you drove last year at RW13?


End of the day time will tell and see what happens. I'd be happy with anything better than last year in a car that I drove there, drove back. :)

[200MPH]

Seeing as we're getting all serious about boosted v10 action, I'll just leave this here:

http://bjmotors.biz/1996-dodge-viper-gts-heffner-twin-turbo-blue-white-0205.html

850 RWHP (Hollywood hp maybe, but you can't deny 8L plus twins must = monster torque). Plus it has a bit cf bottle of nawse ready to go.

The rest of the package should be up to 300ks plus. So, who's in?

[fourseven]

My final diff ratio of 5.1:1 is less than ideal for legging it out over 1000m. Surprisingly my drag car is set up to run 400m. Crazy stuff.

I won't pass scrutineering without windscreen wipers

Still sounds like 2nd place talk.

[Brockas]

I am keen to see what the TT Lambo pulls. It's currently being built for this event...

[Niva]

who actually won between the mp4 and the aventador?

[TJ]

Mp4

[Niva]

Lambo owner owes me a watch :D

[S133LTR]

Keen to see a koeninseggggggggggggggggggggg at rw

[Bomber]

I am keen to see what the TT Lambo pulls. It's currently being built for this event...
Because serious business

[Buckets]

Keen to see a koeninseggggggggggggggggggggg at rw

I guess the fact that they're opening a dealership in Perth may increase the chance of this occurring if not next year then beyond.

https://www.facebook.com/koenigseggautomotiveaustralia?ref=ts&fref=ts

[S85FI]

who actually won between the mp4, GT40/M5 and the aventador?

* fixed and in that order - spot the two tonne 4 door aero brick :)

[S133LTR]

Seriously though mate, can we stop making everything in this thread about your M5?

Koenigsehnnnnggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg gggggggg!!

[Damo 69]

keen to watch S133LT chop exotics again, i still use the below video to show anyone who asks what its all about


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnvR2WATYa8

[S133LTR]

Hahaha thanks mate but I doubt I will be there this year :( Mrs is due at that time.

[Buckets]

Hahaha thanks mate but I doubt I will be there this year :( Mrs is due at that time.

Tell her to hold on until the 14th :p

[azzada1]

Awww, was keen to watch s133ltr chop charged m5s...

I hope the 7-800hp 32r from powercruise comes along with its power tune for a shot at the 300kmh

[fourseven]

Hahaha thanks mate but I doubt I will be there this year :( Mrs is due at that time.

There's 2 brand new ambulances, we'll have 4 crews on standby and a hospital.

Sounds like 2nd place talk to me.

[-Luke-]

Hahaha thanks mate but I doubt I will be there this year :( Mrs is due at that time.

and?

http://www.carbonfibergear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/3-carbon-fiber-babyseat.jpg

[matty12]

Hahaha thanks mate but I doubt I will be there this year :( Mrs is due at that time.

Plus whole car to rewire.

[Buckets]

Plus whole car to rewire.

Got 168 days and counting to do it.

[Greg Rust]

First ever 300km/hr baby delivery.

[S133LTR]

Its S133LTR not S13M5DREAMR

[RRob]

*BMW-WARS*

[Buckets]

Please come and beat Marbles again Rob. We all found it quite amusing.

[DISTRBD]

keen to watch S133LT chop exotics again, i still use the below video to show anyone who asks what its all about


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnvR2WATYa8




LOL the good ol loser flyby :P