Lowering MKV Jetta

[TJ]

What is the hotness out there?

Not looking to go coilovers ideally. Want to retain a comfy ride.

How hard? Shop work, or a backyard cashy job?

[Buckets]

Get the angle grinder out !

[Brett_J]

Looks like a days work or so with normal tools, less with VW spec'd ones.
http://www.myturbodiesel.com/wiki/strut-shock-installation-and-replacement-mk5-vw-tdi-and-audi-a3/

[TJ]

Get the angle grinder out !

Fuck no.




pm some tips bro

[Brett_J]

Can get away without using special tools it seems, I'll be using this when I get H&R springs, apparently the goods and progressive.
http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/Volkswagen_Golf_GTI_Mk_IV/86-SUSPEN-Replacing_Front_Struts_and_Springs/86-SUSPEN-Replacing_Front_Struts_and_Springs.htm

[TJ]

Yeah naturally I wont be doing it but don't want some dude to be "yeah no worries" then to find he cant do it.

Cheers

[stumps.]

Stop exercising and eating good?

[Brett_J]

I'll happily do it for $480 - the cost of springs for my car :P

[4AGE Sedan]

Give Ktec a call, flick them an email or go see them in person. Mention Cam sent you and they will look after you.

I have a feeling they will recommend KW springs, and for good reason.

[-Luke-]

Give Ktec a call, tell em Joe sentcha
ftfy

[[SPESHAL]]

Buy H&R springs from Orange Tuning. Cheap - like $250 cheap. Sports are about 25 mm, Supersports are about 50 mm I think. If you want to retain ride comfort go Sports.

Then try to find someone who doesn't charge an arm and a leg to fit. Seems the going rate in Perth is around $400 to $500.

[TJ]

;1231397']Buy H&R springs from Orange Tuning. Cheap - like $250 cheap. Sports are about 25 mm, Supersports are about 50 mm I think. If you want to retain ride comfort go Sports.

Then try to find someone who doesn't charge an arm and a leg to fit. Seems the going rate in Perth is around $400 to $500.

Yup hence being keen to throw it over to someone looking for cash job.

[Brett_J]

If you go With H&R from Orange, let me know, if he can do mine cheaper I'll get some.

[ben351]

Mate, be a grown up and do it right - not in a backyard.

Go see Jared at WA Suspension - he will look after you.

[satch]

Mate, be a grown up and do it right - not in a backyard.

Go see Jared at WA Suspension - he will look after you.

This. He works on VW and Audi all the time.

Also H&R from Orange tuning or from Rennenhaus over east.

[Brett_J]

Rennenhaus is the same price for locally supplied H&R's for me, I save about 70 bucks if I get ex east on Ebay, The Jetta seems to be a bit cheaper again, Lucky bastard :)

[tinto]

Eibach pro kit for moderate lowering, sport for a deeper drop.
http://www.worksconcepts.com/eibach/eibach_pro_kit_springs/8598140/i-53840.aspx

I bought my KW from these guys and delivery was free. Takes the sting out of an install.

[mARC]

Doesn't look that hard to do:

http://www.myturbodiesel.com/wiki/strut-shock-installation-and-replacement-mk5-vw-tdi-and-audi-a3/

Didn't look through this thread, but may have potential:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?2374154-MkV-Forum-FAQ-and-DIY-Thread

[Brett_J]

Doesn't look that hard to do:

http://www.myturbodiesel.com/wiki/strut-shock-installation-and-replacement-mk5-vw-tdi-and-audi-a3/

Didn't look through this thread, but may have potential:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?2374154-MkV-Forum-FAQ-and-DIY-Thread

It's not, but from a forum of workshop built cars, it's understandable ;)

[mARC]

It's not, but from a forum of workshop built cars, it's understandable ;)

Clearly ineligible to become a wog jew :D

[magic1]

vera do it for cash?

[TJ]

Wouldn't surprise me if she could

[stumps.]

http://i41.tinypic.com/zsd8l.jpg

[DISTRBD]

Yup hence being keen to throw it over to someone looking for cash job.

Cash price is just with out gst ..

[Brett_J]

Cash price is just with out gst ..

Yep
Whenever I gave someone a quote and they asked for cash price, I removed the GST and that was it, your time isn't worth any less because you aren't declaring it to the tax department.
But in regards to this, totally different unless he's taking it to a workshop and the mechanic is doing it off the books.

[DISTRBD]

But in regards to this, totally different unless he's taking it to a workshop and the mechanic is doing it off the books.

That's what fucks the system " my mate paid a guy a block of export to do his car , $500 is a fucking ripoff " .

[TJ]

First quote was 500 dollars to fit 250 dollar springs - understand it takes time but quote also says 2-3 hours to do - so I am paying 250 an hour?

Fuck that son

[masTers]

I got quoted $1100 + GST to supply and fit some H&R's to the A4 at an unnamed suspension workshop in Malaga that specialises in H&R.

[mARC]

understand it takes time but quote also says 2-3 hours to do - so I am paying 250 an hour?

Fuck that son

+ Rent
+ Insurance
+ Operational Expenses
+ Wages
+ Superannuation

The list goes on.

Seriously just do it yourself.

[Brett_J]

They quoted me $935 for the same.

[mARC]

^

Now that I would arc up for fitment only.

[DISTRBD]

TJ most places will charge the labour and consumables like rags , wd40 and zipties , waste and can add another 30-50 on the bill .. Mack charged Will 23c a zip tie lol ..

[SimonR32]

Cash price is just with out gst ..


Yep
Whenever I gave someone a quote and they asked for cash price, I removed the GST and that was it, your time isn't worth any less because you aren't declaring it to the tax department.
But in regards to this, totally different unless he's taking it to a workshop and the mechanic is doing it off the books.

Huh?!? What about the saving on company and/or income tax or do you just run a business that doesn't make a profit?

[mARC]

Huh?!? What about the saving on company and/or income tax or do you just run a business that doesn't make a profit?

Cash price to lot of businesses now days is retail (Inc GST), without receipt.

[ben351]

$500 to have your car professionally lowered is cheap man - just do it and stop being a tight pingpingpingping.

[Brett_J]

$500 to have your car professionally lowered is cheap man - just do it and stop being a tight pingpingpingping.

$100 a corner, especially when you have a workshop with a hoist and tools, still more than $100/hr, that's a fair price I reckon, also what I got quoted from Malaga, minus supply spring price.

[Nugs]

Cash price to lot of businesses now days is retail (Inc GST), without receipt.
I think he is referring to this comment

Yep
Whenever I gave someone a quote and they asked for cash price, I removed the GST and that was it, your time isn't worth any less because you aren't declaring it to the tax department.
But in regards to this, totally different unless he's taking it to a workshop and the mechanic is doing it off the books.
If you don't declare it to the tax department, you don't need to pay gst, company tax, the difference between 30% and your marginal income tax rate.
So you should be able to give a discount of much more than 10% and net the same amount.

[DISTRBD]

Huh?!? What about the saving on company and/or income tax or do you just run a business that doesn't make a profit?

Here a labour only job may come around once a month and its usually for a small amount that might cover a few cartons , most people will have me supply and fit as I charge for down time if parts are wrong and the car is on my hoist in bits and almost every body wants a receipt so they can " claim " it at tax time ..

[Brett_J]

I think he is referring to this comment

If you don't declare it to the tax department, you don't need to pay gst, company tax, the difference between 30% and your marginal income tax rate.
So you should be able to give a discount of much more than 10% and net the same amount.

In the past everyone wants stupid cheap discounts for cash, they usually supply their own shit products and want way more done that originally asked. People thinks cash means they can get shit near on free and get all the benefits of a proper charged job with warranty etc, I'd rather not deal with the hassle, hence the price, actually easier to go on the books, that way if you get into trouble, you have more avenues for protection.

Feel free to go offer a few warm beers next time you hit your mechanic up for some work because they aren't putting it on the books :)

[mARC]

I think he is referring to this comment

If you don't declare it to the tax department, you don't need to pay gst, company tax, the difference between 30% and your marginal income tax rate.
So you should be able to give a discount of much more than 10% and net the same amount.

I understood where he was coming from, my comment was from more of a 'generally speaking angle'.

This is coming from someone that has seen individuals invoice people 'plus GST', that aren't even registered in the first place.