McRae Rallysprint Series '14-15 [Archive]

200MPH

23-01-2015, 02:15 PM

No thread for rallysprint season thus far and 3 outa 5 rounds done as of last night. For shame...
I was of course too weak to do he first two and only did last night.

New helmet and neck brace combo tried for first time resulted in lots of head / roof interaction for the first run. New helmet bit taller it appears. Sorted that by removing seat padding (all 10 mm of it!) and much better after that. But the competition has been getting a bit nasty it seems, so i need to harden up and try a bit harder next round. Car was fine, new brakes now blue, engine pulling hard, just need to get some mad driving skillz happening.

Anyone got any pics of the R35 after it mistook first corner concrete blocks for a McDonalds drive through? Delay meant a long night and only one daylight run.

So, talk it up people! And post some video. I've got a couple of different camera angles to post up when I get them edited.

Jmoore

23-01-2015, 03:42 PM

I Was wondering what happened to you last night!

Did you manage to complete all 4 runs in the end?

We had mechanical issues on the STi - heat shield on the dump pipe let go and was interfering with the uni joint on the steering column.

Luckily we picked it up during the tuning/track day part of the afternoon and in a relatively safe location - steering jammed on the final corner and sent us into the grass, the uneven grass was enough to bump the heat shield back out of the way so we could limp to the pits.

Managed to tie it up out of the way and limp home, going to get the shield rewelded and be back for the next round.

XT43

23-01-2015, 04:22 PM

My best run for the night, needed a good one as there was a couple of guys that I was close to.

Mind the expletive at the end..

Finally got my shit together and got some HID spotties which worked well.

Guys at the pointier end are smashing the times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xbbtO_wco0

SimonR32

23-01-2015, 05:52 PM

http://youtu.be/dPdevWK8oZU

http://youtu.be/5ZBcMaS7qFg

SimonR32

23-01-2015, 05:55 PM

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Lonewolf

23-01-2015, 06:16 PM

thats gonna cost a few big macs

200MPH

23-01-2015, 08:06 PM

Good, good... See how much better we all feel when we can come together and share our feelings and experiences?

Mmm, that Skyline won't be buffing out. Surprised about that one - not like they're newbies to the game.

What a bugger about that heatshield falling into the steering. Lucky indeed you didn't eat some concrete. Yeah - I got my 4 runs in OK. Only had some issues with headers coming loose, but nothing that slowed us down.

Simon - were you in Troy's car? Cause it looks firkin fast in the videos! I take it this means your R32 is coming down for the next round? Now that a R32 has finally stepped up and proved that they can go hard there (Matt J-W) I'm not thinking there could be a legit excuse.

Did anyone get to hear Gunsons Capri on the night? I'm curious as to if he has fitted the NASCAR donk yet. You would know if you heard it, they sound, well, like millions of dollars of goodness basically. Someone has to setup a decent video camera on the course so us idiots competing can get to see and hear a lot of the cars running around us.

Joe's Civic is getting off tap for speed too. I watched it and it's quick for a NA 4 cyl car, but the times it is now doing is making me feel silly. Some serious work and development has been going on there.

HotAe92

24-01-2015, 10:23 AM

The quality of cars and competition at the Rallysprints has increased exponentially over the past 12 months!

Sensible

24-01-2015, 10:44 AM

NASCAR engine is fitted Julian

When I last spoke to Simon he was fitting larger rears to the Capri as it still wants to turn the tyres at 6000rpm in 4th gear, he is only running it upto 7500 of the 9000rpm available to get more life out of the engine.

The last off Conacher had at Jacks hill cost about 30k I was told, the damage looks to be about the same this time also

SimonR32

24-01-2015, 10:56 AM

Simon - were you in Troy's car? Cause it looks firkin fast in the videos! I take it this means your R32 is coming down for the next round? Now that a R32 has finally stepped up and proved that they can go hard there (Matt J-W) I'm not thinking there could be a legit excuse

I was in Rrobs evo 7, think he ended up 9th.

Mine is getting fixed at the moment, might come down one day but the concrete scares me!

35 looks like similar damage to last time so shouldnt be too hard to fix but exxy all the same. The fire going for about 15min isnt going to help

Turboesky

24-01-2015, 11:20 AM

Those concrete barriers are quite scary. It Looks like they have claimed a few victims so far. Any reason they don't use water filled plastic ones? would be much nicer to crash into.

Sensible

24-01-2015, 11:48 AM

The water barriers are half the weight of the concrete ones but harder to handle and still do as much damage as they are all tied together to give them the strength require

You are not supposed to lift the water barriers while full of water, so it means filling and emptying them each event

Turboesky

24-01-2015, 12:59 PM

good points.

Just glad all my run offs and brake fades have happened through witches hats. Definitely not the event to find your cars limits.

Jaak

24-01-2015, 04:11 PM

Concrete barriers was bad, but worst still was the sneaky little curb before it, claimed a drive shaft, rim and 3 rockers in the porsche

SlamDunk

24-01-2015, 09:04 PM

Anyone know if Neil's turbo suzuki swift is okay?

200MPH

25-01-2015, 12:52 PM

Anyone know if Neil's turbo suzuki swift is okay?

Dunno - hard to say from where I was (down low, struggling to see and in a hurry) if he just pulled up onto the kerb or went in too hot, mounted kerb and smacked into the wall. I can safely assume he was pushing hard however. He got a 2:34 on his first and only run, and that would require some large commitment in his car which is pretty quick for sure, but not real snappy in a straight line compared to many.

What annoyed me a little was that no officials on the start line decided to warn us there was a car at the keyhole with hazard lights flashing. Don't think I slowed down for it, though probably should of.

Jmoore

25-01-2015, 01:36 PM

Dunno - hard to say from where I was (down low, struggling to see and in a hurry) if he just pulled up onto the kerb or went in too hot, mounted kerb and smacked into the wall. I can safely assume he was pushing hard however. He got a 2:34 on his first and only run, and that would require some large commitment in his car which is pretty quick for sure, but not real snappy in a straight line compared to many.

What annoyed me a little was that no officials on the start line decided to warn us there was a car at the keyhole with hazard lights flashing. Don't think I slowed down for it, though probably should of.

I'm not going to comment on what happened, but I will comment on staff's performance from his co-drivers perspective.

Despite the fact that the crew over near the narrow gate were in site and had seen / heard what was going on, they did not bother coming over.

I would estimate a good 20 cars were still doing full paced runs until the sweep car (#0) came up to the other side of the gate, because one of the later cars had finished and obviously made some comment as to whether or not they realised there was a car out there or not.

The sweep car came out, asked if the car would start, determined that the car was out of the way and not posing a danger to other competitors all from the safety of the other side of the gate, and then subsequently left. No information as to what we should do or anything.

After another 20 cars had gone past, I rang the clerk of course to find out if anyone was coming to get us, or if there would be a break in racing in order to move the car out of the way. The lack of information going around was astounding, in the end we were forced to climb the fence and jump the gate, as there was no break in racing given to allow us a safe opportunity to walk back into the venue.

For an event where the drivers briefing extensively harps on about safety, their response to an incident is absolutely woeful.

Sensible

25-01-2015, 04:57 PM

Not having run at these events but I have run at other Ross Tapper events,

That is how he runs his events, he runs them under rally regs where if a car is off and no medical FIV is needed and the car is not in the way it stays there until the end of the event

We had this issue at a hillclimb where he was happy to leave a car in the bushes and not recover it as it would have slowed the event down, once the car was recovered after a lot of protest it was fixed and ready to run again after missing one run

ALEX.

25-01-2015, 08:03 PM

I started 10 cars behind Neil – so five minutes after him – and received no warning at the start line of the incident. Reason? Nobody knew of the crash yet. Apparently.

Approaching the incident site and seeing hazard lights on I naturally slowed to check all ok. After seeing Neil and Jason out of the car seemingly ok I powered on. We couldn't see if the car was damaged – just the bonnet up so thought maybe they'd needed to pull over asap for some reason.

The '0' car driver has confirmed that they knew of the incident "straight away" and that "as standard protocol we asked if it was on or off the road. We were told it was clear of the road, and stage could continue. We can only go on what the marshals down that end tell us."

I'm sure we all agree that the Rallysprint is run very well, and personally I have no problems with a car being left where it is – like Neil's was – as long as it's deemed safely out of the way and competitors are notified before their run. I have no idea why competitors weren't notified of the incident on this occasions but when this has happened in the past we have been told – although I've found that that's generally only been the case IF the car has been in a position that may be distracting for the driver when they come across it.

I have general kudos for the way the events are run. Biggest field ever in the round just gone…

Here's the view screenshotted from my co-driver's eyes. 10 points to the best pun regarding the sign...

http://s16.postimg.org/5oa7zhlth/Why_Queue_Indeed.jpg

Saint_23

25-01-2015, 09:27 PM

Two sides to every story.
Officials have to balance maintaining everyone's safety and ensuring the event continues as smoothly as possible, which isn't always easy.
No matter what course of action taken, there is always someone who isn't happy.

200MPH

26-01-2015, 12:13 PM

Yeah, I'm all for the balance between keeping the event running and safety, but just the common courtesy of advising drivers there is a car off on the stage and at what location would certainly be advisable. Not difficult to do and hurts no one.

Change sign to read "Why Queue - Drive Through"?

Anyways, here is some video more importantly. My videographer/deadweight (2X044) tried a couple of funky camera positions. Here's the first from final run; spotlight cleavage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbt46BpFZYQ

Will get around to posting up some rear camera flame action later. One of the R32's (Matt J-W?) won the flames of the night award however, mine are pathetic in comparison.

200MPH

06-02-2015, 01:45 PM

OK, so next Rallysprint is on next Thursday 12th Feb. I've entered but need a co-driver/deadweight/deadmeat. Pay me $20 per run to help cover costs and that's it.

If you think you'd like a run or two here's the deal:

You get a seat (small) in the car c/w 5 point 3" harness for 1 - 4 runs of the rallysprint course. Don't be over 6ft 2in or 100 kg or you ain't going to fit. Preferably much smaller and lighter! Narrow race seats - childbearing hips need not apply. Not discrimination, just reality.

You can live out your co-drivers fantasies and call the course notes. Or not. I don't care. I won't hear you probably or if I do, won't listen. (Kimi: "Leave me along, I know what I'm doing").

You need a CAMS L2S or better license. Helmet, long sleeves/pants (yeah, gotta wear pants, sorry), shoes etc. If you have proper race safety gear, wear it. You don't want to burn all crispy like. You will be sitting next to a fuel tank. In between 2 tanks actually if it makes you feel better. Think of them as your aluminium crumple zones if we go in sideways. So you'll be alive, but probably on fire. Can't have it all!

I will be pushing along trying for 2WD honours and top 10 if I can get it together. But hopefully not crashing. There is the chance we all die horribly, that's just part of the fun I guess...

The car is loud, hot and cramped. You won't be comfortable. No screaming or passing out. Yes, it has happened, hence my request not to. I don't like the awkward silences that come with you passing out.

Not sure I've sold this very well, but I'm not in sales, clearly. Don't rush all at once please...

Rb_sil

06-02-2015, 02:48 PM

I'm working til 4ish which means i get to the track about 5.30/6 if it helps ya got CAMS and race suit would be happy to be the squishy ballast as we don't have a car running this event.

Brockas

06-02-2015, 03:49 PM

OK, so next Rallysprint is on next Thursday 12th Feb. I've entered but need a co-driver/deadweight/deadmeat. Pay me $20 per run to help cover costs and that's it.

lol @ charging people to sit passenger. Da fak.

Jmoore

06-02-2015, 04:07 PM

lol @ charging people to sit passenger. Da fak.

Supply and Demand

just minus the demand ...

200MPH

06-02-2015, 04:22 PM

lol @ charging people to sit passenger. Da fak.

Fake cars are not cheap to run! If you wished to experience a fake tarmac rally stage, but didn't have a car of your own you were willing to risk, I'd consider that pretty cheap entertainment.

Entering any event turns out to be $400 - $500 for me, assuming no damage is done other than usual wear and tear. Plus all the risk that it will get binned and then there is the fact that you are liable for the first $5000 of any damage done to venue.

Paying for a ride seems like a pretty low risk way to get out there the way I see it. Only risk is to your own health I guess...

tex

06-02-2015, 05:13 PM

If someone was to come co-drive for you wouldn't it be doing you a favour? You need one to compete, they help you and they get a night of fun in a quick car.

MrSparkle

07-02-2015, 01:39 PM

I don't think you "need" a co driver at rallysprint. I got to ride in a friends car at the last one and it was excellent. Not sure I would pay to ride but thats not really for us to say. Most of the guys I know that race there take friends and family for a ride because you don't get to do it at racedays and stuff usually just supercruises and powercruise etc and thats not really "racing".

Edit : by "need" I was implying that the co driver doesn't do anything but still has to be there. I can see where all the confusion came from so my bad. Also can't you share a co driver with another entrant? As long as they had a few racers in between I cant see that being an issue.

SlamDunk

07-02-2015, 02:49 PM

As far as it goes, co driver at McRae is compulsory. During my mid year crash, they grabbed just as much information of my co driver as from me, thats in CAMS license, car club membership and he has to be the co driver you signed on with, not some fun ride friends without submitting all the details together with your entries. You probably couldn sneak one or two of your friends during the race, but it will be quite alot of explanation to do if they caught you.

Brockas

07-02-2015, 05:11 PM

Entering any event turns out to be $400 - $500 for me, assuming no damage is done other than usual wear and tear. Plus all the risk that it will get binned and then there is the fact that you are liable for the first $5000 of any damage done to venue.

Not doubting the costs involved but if you want to compete you need a co-driver, therefore whoever is sitting next to you is doing you a favour, because without them and their CAMS licence, you can't compete.

If you can get people to do you a favour then charge them for it, then that's fine I guess.

I usually thank whoever it is that goes co-driver with me because they've taken 4 hours of their life to sit in the car with me for 8 minutes while I race, but then again I only drive a slow Evo so maybe the appeal is less for a passenger.

hako

07-02-2015, 05:22 PM

Entering any event turns out to be $400 - $500 for me

If that is your minimum cost for an event, charging $20 isn't really going to help you out. As mentioned the co-driver is doing you a favour.

07-02-2015, 06:04 PM

Those happy to pay will

Those who arent ... wont

dmanvan

08-02-2015, 02:26 PM

I would pay a $20 to see someone soil their whities in a GT40 ....... or post video of bouncing on you tube reap profits with the residual

200MPH

13-02-2015, 01:25 PM

Was a good night last night. Didn't win, but came close and had heaps of fun trying. Managed to lose my balls somewhere when the sun went down and couldn't keep up the pace. Big cheers to RB_SIL for co-driving, you didn't scream or pass out and I'm thankful for that!

Don't think anyone hit anything this round. Though MGR pulled over on second run - trans or engine issue?

That blue Datto 1600 U2L IP car was absolutely mental and really well built and finished. Talking to the owner and the motor is one weird concoction. L18 block, KA24 head and full custom internals. Still, 10000 rpm redline = nice noise and lots of go!

Was a sweat fest with all the humidity however.

Ash

13-02-2015, 01:33 PM

Done many a co-drive with Andrew at the sprints, happy to pay and actually had a great time calling the corners and yelling at him making him drive harder, we made up 3-4 seconds every time we went out. Bit hairy when you run off the track with some brake fade or the engine explodes both of which happened to us but i thoroughly recommend it, will be doing it again when my car is back on the road or his is.

djr81

13-02-2015, 01:44 PM

Co drove/navigated/passengered for Julian a few times before I got fed up with the drive to and from the boganplex from Bunbury. Anyway point is its good fun, a challenge to do properly and he can steer a bit but fkd if I am ever going to let him know that.

Anyway CSB, would have done the same again if I hadn't been to Wanneroo the Sunday prior.

c.rusli

13-02-2015, 02:04 PM

Was out last night with Evo X, learnt brakes are totally shit, pedal to floor after few corners. Tires are quite greasy probably dead already.

Run 1. got lots of brake fades Over shoot the corner to the goat track, Spun the car and the rear of the car landed on the ditch and broke my exhaust. dodgey fixed it and continue on for the next 3 runs.

Run 2, Windscreen decided being a pig it fogged up just as we launch barely see nothing with those bright lights around and cleard up after a first couple of corner after I put the fan on. Yellow flagged on back straight, RAW - evo x overshot

Run 3 - ok not as bad

Run 4 - as I was coming by to the chicane before the goat track, official was fixing the chicane and running back to the grass. We were like WHAT?!

Could have been a better night, but first time out racing with the car, I would expect things happen.
definitely not the fastest drive ever lol

Vids here: skip to 2:50 mark for bloopers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD3h-IK1umU&feature=youtu.be

SlamDunk

13-02-2015, 03:12 PM

Pretty sure Marshall on the track fixing Bollard is quite a common thing particularly for last night. It doesn't bother me too much... Back in the early days spectators are inches away from the WRC cars...

Here is a 15 seconds short clip with me onBoard from last night (wrong date in the video), Marshall run for his life after fixing the chicane.

http://youtu.be/xBa256cHd18

Rb_sil

13-02-2015, 04:59 PM

Good night out...
jumped in to have a ride/help Julian (200MPH) with his co driver issues and safe to say its a wild ride def something ticked of the bucket list hahahaha (our normal times are like 15+ seconds slower then the serious/fast guys in 2wd) so it was an eye opener to see how much of a pussy I really am compared to somebody with talent and a competitive car...
tho it has motivated me to pull my finger out and get some bits finished/cleaned up on my car and get some seat time so thanks Julian !!

Sad to see the silver S15 (Andrew ?) have issues i assume he is the above mentioned engine failure, seems like a good dude spent half hour talking to him and looking over the car last event looked like a tidy build.

c.rusli

13-02-2015, 05:21 PM

That ever occur to me for the past rally sprint I attended. If cone was down it won't be reseted until next rounds...

DISTRBD

14-02-2015, 10:30 AM

lol @ charging people to sit passenger. Da fak.

You would be surprised at what people will pay for a ride , I had a customer pay $300 to sit in the passenger seat for a Paul Blank bunbury 1 day .

Run 1. got lots of brake fades Over shoot the corner to the goat track, Spun the car and the rear of the car landed on the ditch and broke my exhaust. dodgey fixed it and continue on for the next 3 runs.

LOL brake fade halfway through your first run , why did you continue with the next 3 knowing you had shit brakes ??

c.rusli

14-02-2015, 12:03 PM

LOL brake fade halfway through your first run , why did you continue with the next 3 knowing you had shit brakes ??

If you have confidence you are going to make it why not?
It's not the first time I entered the stage

Changed driving style, hold longer gear and use engine brake more towards the corner.

It works for the next 3 rounds. Not matter what the brakes would still brakes just that it take longer to stop.

it's not fastest way but, It still allows me to enjoy the race rather than bailing out after run 1

Not so swift

16-02-2015, 09:35 PM

After a huge 3 week effort I managed to get the car back together for this round. I had to borrow a headlight and a couple of rims but the racing tape and cable ties held up. Also managed to miss the wall this time around.

I think my co driver, Jmoore, gave a pretty good explanation of what happened at the last round. Its an intermittent fault with the brakes thats been there since new and happens one corner twice a year or so. Its like there is no vacuum assistance, hard pedal and no real braking force, it just slows gradually. Its been there when the car was brand new, in standard trim, with the turbo fitted, standard brakes and the AP Racing brakes. With standard pads, Ferodo pads and Pagid pads and with racing brake fluid. Its so much like no vacuum assistance I fitted a vacuum tank, but that didn't help.

Thursday night I had a couple of moments under brakes (you think I would have learnt the first time!) into the U turn from the braking lanes to the return road. It seems more like an ABS fault having being focussed on the feel of the brakes. While applying more and more pressure to the pedal, it got to a point where the pedal got hard and felt like it was pushing back against my foot and at the same time the brakinf efficiency was lost (like the ABS system was releasing pressure to the callipers). Then a few meters later (still braking) I got to a point where the pedal feel came back and brake efficiency returned. Now I feel its more an ABS fault than vacuum.

But it was a good night. First run was slow, getting back into it with the crash and all. Second and third runs were good and then out braked myself in the fourth run pushing trying to catch Julian!

JME

17-02-2015, 08:51 AM

Buckets

17-02-2015, 11:45 AM

Stroker motor not giving you the buzz anymore ?

Joe

17-02-2015, 11:54 AM

Won't need it.. the car is mega as it is, just needs a little tweaking.

MGR

17-02-2015, 12:09 PM

One clean run. One exploded rear diff. The end :/

Where we pulled up on stage was a good place to watch the JME evo bouncing around with it's tail hanging out though.

lol @ charging people to sit passenger. Da fak.

LTTP on this, but when a 2 lap passenger ride around the RAC driving centre in a V8 'race' car is asking $115.00, the GT40 RallySprint offer is a bargain by comparison. Even if you had to buy a CAMS and club membership for the day it would still be cheaper and a significantly more thrilling experience in my opinion.

RUSSGT

17-02-2015, 12:13 PM

Well done.

+1 to being more than happy to pay $20 to passenger with Julian! Awesome car. For those of us that cant afford sweet race cars, its nice to be able to enter one for such little money.

How many people pay more than $20 on a few crappy rides at the royal show.

Also not all of us are mates with people with race cars. Its a nice offer.

200MPH

17-02-2015, 12:52 PM

LostInTheWoods

17-02-2015, 02:24 PM

One clean run. One exploded rear diff. The end :/

Exploded RS diff or AYC?

Mine exploded 2 laps at barbs after the July Sprint. Destroyed ring gear, casing, centre. bin job.

MGR

17-02-2015, 03:23 PM

Exploded RS diff or AYC?

Mine exploded 2 laps at barbs after the July Sprint. Destroyed ring gear, casing, centre. bin job.

RS diff. It's had a good run though.

New one on its way.

Jmoore

17-02-2015, 04:23 PM

Was a good effort you getting out there again so soon!

Pull ABS fuse and try to replicate issue? Easy change to make and try. Your current brake and tyre combo is well removed from the original parameters they would have optimized the ABS for in any case. No ABS is better than unpredictable ABS/traction/stability control issues. I think Chris went through similar issues with his Z06 (traction control, not ABS) once he modified it too far.

I believe it has had the same problem even before the brakes were upgraded, suffered from a classic case of manufacturer denial that the intermittent issue existed.

Not so swift

17-02-2015, 06:09 PM

Pull ABS fuse and try to replicate issue? Easy change to make and try. Your current brake and tyre combo is well removed from the original parameters they would have optimized the ABS for in any case. No ABS is better than unpredictable ABS/traction/stability control issues. I think Chris went through similar issues with his Z06 (traction control, not ABS) once he modified it too far.

Thanks mate. I have tried removing the ABS fuse. The issue is that the ABS also controls brake proportioning so when you remove the fuse the rear brakes lock up instantly. Looks like pulling the ABS out is the next thing.

200MPH

17-02-2015, 10:05 PM

Thanks mate. I have tried removing the ABS fuse. The issue is that the ABS also controls brake proportioning so when you remove the fuse the rear brakes lock up instantly. Looks like pulling the ABS out is the next thing.

OK, no so simple as I guessed. Your car is so far removed from a stocker, it's time to do it right for a race car. Install balance bar, twin master cyls and throw away standard booster, ABS etc. Save some weight and get your brakes set just right with proper pedal feel to go with it.