Racewars 2016

[yohoes]

Is this shit happening this year so i can spin a bearing two years in a row?

[Fukushima]

F1 Malaysia looking pretty good right now

[Damo 69]

September apparently

[bigbill5]

a definite date would help, so people can get their cars ready .

[fuzzmeisterr]

Im sure the date will be confirmed as soon as they're ready to. (Im guessing they're waiting to 100 percent confirm venue avaliabilty/insurances etc). The guys and girls behind the scenes have done a brilliant job in previous years and I'm sure they'll pull it off again this year. Looking forward to it!!

[BLACK HULK]

http://i1041.photobucket.com/albums/b415/Xavier_Keenan/RW16%20meme%20.jpg (http://s1041.photobucket.com/user/Xavier_Keenan/media/RW16%20meme%20.jpg.html)

[dmanvan]

We are working with September in mind although if it doesnt happen , will still have some fun with the funny gas anyway.....:)

[huggy_b]

Racewars plz redpond.

[Buckets]

While I'm still waiting for a letter in the post that allows me to confirm everything I have Sep 23-25 blocked out in my callendar...

[crabman]

How's the letter coming?

[huggy_b]

Via Australia Post I assume, could be months away...nobody knows.

[Buckets]

I believe there has been a request for an outcome one way or another by the 9th (don't hold me to that) however I am not sure / privy to all the specifics any more. I do know a contract exists to facilitate this years event but some potential restrictions and conditions being proposed seem focused on making in unviable to go ahead.

It's no fault of those trying to keep RW alive, they are doing what they can to get it squared away. Please continue to hang in there and support them.

[jayrod]

*provides mental support via a forum post*

Cross our fingers and our toes to hope the conditions allow it once more :)

[S133LTR]

The real question is will the RB26 guys have their motors rebuilt by September??

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l13/KINGDS13/pun%20dog_zpsaqk1y0gw.png (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/KINGDS13/media/pun%20dog_zpsaqk1y0gw.png.html)

[Fukushima]

no

Reckon your foot rebuild will be complete by then?

[SimonR32]

The real question is will the RB26 guys have their motors rebuilt by September??

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l13/KINGDS13/pun%20dog_zpsaqk1y0gw.png (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/KINGDS13/media/pun%20dog_zpsaqk1y0gw.png.html)

You hurt my feelings

[Slow RB25]

25 is ready. That's all you need to worry about... 


The real question is will the RB26 guys have their motors rebuilt by September??

[S133LTR]

Always ready ;)

[huggy_b]

Always ready ;)
I assume that'll be in white lettering on your sidewalls?

[Oversteer]

Snowy Mountains 1000
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Don't miss out. If you have not sent us an entry EOI email as yet, you will need to email us at snowymountains1000@hotmail.com in the next month, along with a description of the car you are looking to enter. No email by April 3, you will not have the chance of entering this year.

[DISTRBD]

25 is ready. That's all you need to worry about... 

Location is what you need to worry about now :P

[dmanvan]

plenty of newly surfaced straight wide roads in wheatbelt..... Farmer at one end moves sheep onto road to form a blockade..... cars move into strip in the middle ,,, farmer at other end moves sheep in place to totally block road.... have runs.... when brakes and parachutes dont work.. get lamb roast,,win win :D

[TJ]

From a drunken Buckets idea to the best 1000m event in the country, what a ride.

[adrenalin]

Glad to have done it once and spectated once.

Im sure something else will pop up eventually to take it place that the same guys can organise if they are up to it.

[Socrates]

Racewars release:

Sadly all good things must come to an end. The Racewars team regrettably has decided that it is no longer viable for the event to continue in Wyalkatchem.
With no alternate location for the event secured at this time it’s with great sadness that we must announce that there will be no Racewars 2016 and there is no current plan secured for any further events.
We’d like to thank all of our supporters, entrants, sponsors and volunteers for helping run a genuine grassroots motorsport event that’s resulted in records being broken and some great stories to tell for years to come.
From all of us here at Racewars - Thank you & goodbye.

[MrSparkle]

Thats a shame. It was awesome while it lasted.

Change the title to "Who wants a real land speed record?"

If we can afford it next year we will be there.
Lake Gairdner 2017
www.dlra.org.au

[crabman]

I take it the venue didn't want it or insurance became a nightmare based on the venue?

[Evman]

Definitely a huge loss to the motorsport community. Says a lot about the 'performance enthusiasts' of Perth though. Easily tens of thousands of people with modified cars in the city yet an event where you get to use them car properly struggles to get numbers.

Big respect to the handful of shops that made real efforts for the events, and for the people willing to race their cars, both fast and 'slow'.

Most importantly though, a huge thanks to everyone involved in organising, running and funding the event. I wish it could have become a profitable, annual occasion for us all to enjoy

[huggy_b]

I assume after last year's runway redecorating the council probably stipulated a lot of "no skids" rules.

The other thing is the short run off for braking - with the speed that some of the faster cars were hitting it was bordering on inadequate.

[Damo 69]

Although no plans on entering this year either way, 2 years competing and 1 year spectating was a great event.

Hopefully a less goaty town and airstrip stick their hand up and the event can follow on in future years.

Big thanks to organisers and volunteers for previous years, and those who emptied thy wallets to make it interesting!

[Phyber]

Aw shit.

Was awesome to be there competing in the first year and the final year. Great work everyone involved, tank you for your efforts. Very sad to see it go!

Wonder how long I'll keep my windscreen banner on for :(

[TJ]

may have to arrange the leach hwy wars to replace this

[Riggs]

Guessing it was a combination of hurdles that ultimately ended it. I know an epic amount of work went on behind the scenes and was an amazing effort to bring something a bunch of mates were joking about over a beer to full fruition.

I thoroughly enjoyed each event and what competitors and organisers brought to the table was first class entertainment and motorsport. Wylie pub will never be the same again.

[d1mitch]

really sad to see it go. unfortunately i didn't get to race as my car graduated to unicorn status and still holds a firm place there.

any more info on what the reasons for its un-viability were?

[Liberator]

sad news to hear guys !
thank you for the effort and work you put into this event each year !

[S85FI]

Doesn't mean we can't still have unofficial runs there does it??

[caibs]

balls. i bought a marque and everything for this year. was going to sell bead necklaces and make a killing.

[S85FI]

Thats a shame. It was awesome while it lasted.

Change the title to "Who wants a real land speed record?"

If we can afford it next year we will be there.
Lake Gairdner 2017
www.dlra.org.au

This looks cool but the rules are strict. I was keen right up to the point i have to put a roll cage if you think your car will hit 200mph.

No idea what length you get but looks like all sorts of cars and bikes and trucks pull some good speeds.

[MrSparkle]

Its basically Bonneville in Australia.

Your car will fit a class no matter what it is. The class we want to contest has a record of 196km/h for a street car and no record for a streamliner so basically run the car standard take the record then swap the bonnet and post the record in the streamliner class. At least thats the plan. Some of those stupidly fast racewars cars would take the records in their classes with a minimum of fuss.

I think its 5 miles long. If your car is stock engine stock engine placement stock panels you would be production shouldnt need a cage for that.

[dmanvan]

balls. i bought a marque and everything for this year. was going to sell bead necklaces and make a killing.

fark I even joined isa. and was going to sell some methagenix their on the side....

[heavyduty1340]

Sad Sad day.
Glad to have been a participant all 3 years.
Best event I have ever had the honour of being part of.
1st year actually inspired a 60 y/o mater to import a GTR!!
It must have gutted the boys to walk like this, but hold ya heads high - You did it when lots thought it couldnt be done!!
Still running the 2015 windscreen banner and door number with pride!!

[Phyber]

At least I'll save money on trying to go faster than last year :/

Have previous 2013 and 2015 livery saved ready to hang up in man cave once the new house is built!

[Buckets]

Thanks for the kind words guys.

The long and short of it is the council changed CEO's after the first year and the new guy honestly had no time for us, we were tollerated (because of the contract put in place by the original CEO) but nothing more.

They complained we weren't bringing enough to the town (inspite of it bringing thousands to a town of 300 people) and pushed us to try and deliver more and more for them with nothing but resistance and disinterest from the majority of the community.

2015 nearly got cancled hours before the Motorkhana kicked off because a council staff member tried to use an obscure Health Department requirement to snooker us and then obviously we painted the strip out there (which they were forewarned and agreed to / encouraged at the time).

Then a few locals started rattling the cage again saying we'd fucked the runway (which engineering reports confirmed we didn't) but it just gave those who didn't like the nothingness of their existance out there being disturbed something else to whinge about.

We were given a list of things to address and did what we could to meet them, good faith proposals were put forward by us to the council to try and compromise and deliver something at least. Requests and suggestions were met with silence and when we said we could not and would not be paying the council more for a scaled down event it was clear they were intent on making it impossible for us to go again. I stood aside and let another person try and hold them to our contract but we were met with more obstructionism and it proved pointless.

There's a great deal of support there in the shire and even on the council however in the end it was not enough. Oddly enough I respect their decision to obstruct us to the point where we decided we could not justify fighting anymore but it does dishearten me.

It never made money for us or anyone involved, it really made no sense to do or continue but fuck it was fun and for that thank you to each and everyone of you who made the event what it was.

[S85FI]

I think its 5 miles long. If your car is stock engine stock engine placement stock panels you would be production shouldnt need a cage for that.

Yep... in the rules it states pretty clear if a production car and stock can do 200mph must be fitted with "roll over roof protection" without looking at technical specs surely that is a roll cage? Fucked if im gonna do that. Will still email as keen to do and social if i can get away without a cage. If they say i can't do it with a blower then I'll run standard length belt (no fitting change required) load stock tune and go as "standard production "

[Phyber]

Thanks for the kind words guys.

The long and short of it is the council changed CEO's after the first year and the new guy honestly had no time for us, we were tollerated (because of the contract put in place by the original CEO) but nothing more.

They complained we weren't bringing enough to the town (inspite of it bringing thousands to a town of 300 people) and pushed us to try and deliver more and more for them with nothing but resistance and disinterest from the majority of the community.

2015 nearly got cancled hours before the Motorkhana kicked off because a council staff member tried to use an obscure Health Department requirement to snooker us and then obviously we painted the strip out there (which they were forewarned and agreed to / encouraged at the time).

Then a few locals started rattling the cage again saying we'd fucked the runway (which engineering reports confirmed we didn't) but it just gave those who didn't like the nothingness of their existance out there being disturbed something else to whinge about.

We were given a list of things to address and did what we could to meet them, good faith proposals were put forward by us to the council to try and compromise and deliver something at least. Requests and suggestions were met with silence and when we said we could not and would not be paying the council more for a scaled down event it was clear they were intent on making it impossible for us to go again. I stood aside and let another person try and hold them to our contract but we were met with more obstructionism and it proved pointless.

There's a great deal of support there in the shire and even on the council however in the end it was not enough. Oddly enough I respect their decision to obstruct us to the point where we decided we could not justify fighting anymore but it does dishearten me.

It never made money for us or anyone involved, it really made no sense to do or continue but fuck it was fun and for that thank you to each and everyone of you who made the event what it was.


I think this is why I hate politics.

[adrenalin]

Were they after money up front or just more spectators / sponsorship interest.

Just seems stupid for a town that size to give up those sort of numbers.

[Evman]

Still running the 2015 windscreen banner and door number with pride!!

Haha same minus the door numbers. It wont be coming off for a long time either

[Fukushima]

http://cdn.idigitaltimes.com/sites/idigitaltimes.com/files/styles/large/public/2014/08/28/2014/02/23/14670.jpg

get this guy in to sort it out

[zeroyon]

It's ok we can close the freeway on a Sunday just like they do for the cyclists. ;)

[Phildo]

It's ok we can close the freeway on a Sunday just like they do for the cyclists. ;)

You seen the pricing on the photos, though?

[dmanvan]

didnt mythbusters do one with how fast you had to go to beat the camera's photo!! :D ....

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[fourseven]

Very sad to read the news.

Negotiating with the previous CEO was too easy. Racewars was given a "do whatever you want" deal but he already had one foot out the door. After the first event was finished he got the praise and congratulations. Perhaps he deserved it. But negotiating with the current CEO was difficult, and I remember a scheduled 10 minute meeting to lock in 2014 dates turned into a 2 hour interrogation. I walked out knowing how difficult future events would be to organise because this guy had been employed to change the way the Shire operates. Despite making a few enemies and lacking some support from locals he's done everything he was employed to do and the town has never been in better shape. Even more unfortunate is that Shire Councillors don't get involved in the day to day running of the Shire. It was only by putting a certain Shire Councillor in the uncomfortable position of going in to negotiate for Racewars in 2014, that the extra costs the Shire wanted for Friday afternoon running were dropped. I imagine this left a bitter taste in the CEO’s mouth.

Another interesting thing happened since last year’s event, and that’s the Dowerin CEO being charged on 665 individual instances of stealing as a servant. I imagine this would’ve made it even more difficult to negotiate with the Shire as they’ll be on the defensive.

Despite the jokes, the fly-in was organised long before the Racewars news hit. It’s been cancelled a couple of times because of the weather. It’s just a day for the aviation guys who come up regularly. Anyone who thinks it’s an actual replacement for Racewars is an idiot.

Wyalkatchem is no different to any other small country town. I’ve been here a while now but I won’t be here much longer. There are good things and bad things about living here, but it’s not fair to criticise the majority of locals who supported and enjoyed the event. Like many on here they aren’t pleased with the news either.

I wish The Racewars Group all the best for the future. With the talent and experience of the company directors I’m certain this isn’t the end.

[Brockas]

Wyalkatchem is no different to any other small country town. I’ve been here a while now but I won’t be here much longer. There are good things and bad things about living here, but it’s not fair to criticise the majority of locals who supported and enjoyed the event. Like many on here they aren’t pleased with the news either.

And that right there is why it's not fair to say "the town are being pingpingpingpings etc". A good portion of people supported the event, unfortunately it wasn't enough to allow it to happen again.

[Rossco]

So, would anyone have the top ten times over the 3 events by chance?

[Nugs]

So, would anyone have the top ten times over the 3 events by chance?

https://www.racewars.com.au/Event/Results

[DISTRBD]

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(which engineering reports confirmed we didn't)


LOL sooo they didn't believe Tristan's report :P

[200MPH]

Made it to 3x RW, 2 to compete and one to spectate/prod brother into it. Was great on the whole. Learnings:

Discovered 60's aero is crap (thanks capt. obvious)
Timing systems are troublesome
Tristan can't be trusted
I need approximately 1 million more HP (a la Steve Jones)
I should run filters, but still don't. Sorry engine.
Got to park in Forrest Chase, photos from that will be with me for ever.
Got 10 seconds (or less) of fame in PSC/SM.
Way too many gunnas, bugger all doers when you get down to it (yeah, that's never gunna change).

Hopefully Au Revior, not Good Bye to RW.

And all I got out of it was this lousy T-shirt...

[TJ]

Retro RW shirt, size 3XL for sale

I assume since these are like license plates, 5k ono

But yeah.

- Watching the 200mph pass from the start line. Still makes me beam.
- Being in the amazingly bullshit lucky position to be able to get to vantage points we all dreamed off to see the cars run. Don't get me wrong, this isn't some #iknowtj #nod shit, I will be forever thankful for it.
- Seeing so many of my friends enjoying their cars in a legal environment
- Watching my friends pull off running an amazing event.
- Doing the drive out to the first one in record time in my Corolla Sportivo
- Doing the drive home in record time in my Foz
- The chance to write again (one last time) for a mag. It meant a lot personally. So much to expand there, but I will cherish this one.
- The skimpy at the pub - OMG dat ass
- Working with Brandon/Brodie who created some amazing media for it.
- The McLaren/Plane race - goosebumps being able to see that up close.


Truly hope the stars align and we get a place who wants us to run.

[Greg Rust]

Well said Julian, I was fortunate enough to go for a run in your car even though the shifter broke and we only hit 200 something.

I drove in two of them and had photos of my car in street machine (thanks Boris and Andrew) had a blast, went for rides in cars must faster than mine.

70's aero is also crap

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w85/xwgasaxe/F8BC3502-8EE6-45D9-AADE-C49CD2A93297-387-0000000D98062293.jpg (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/xwgasaxe/media/F8BC3502-8EE6-45D9-AADE-C49CD2A93297-387-0000000D98062293.jpg.html)

The original from Andrew Goodwin

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w85/xwgasaxe/MattXW-Copy.jpg (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/xwgasaxe/media/MattXW-Copy.jpg.html)

[S85FI]

RW.
First time met some awesome blokes.
Beat some fast cars.
Faster cars beat me.
Drinking piss in the pub
Having hot bitches all over me in the pub on the couch.
Next bit too explicit. ..
Home to tell stories.
Blow zero in the morning. Either Skid Kid of 4seven thinking how?

2nd Rw
Fuck with blower tune
Drink piss
pingpingpingpings slap my ass (Rigs ) and they should be thankful it wasn't 1st RW. Would of ended badly
Bitches - that Ass tJ speaks off also makes the best coffee in the mornings!
Find tune issues
Good socials helping pack up.
Blow 0 again.

3rw
Lol 4gear doughnuts and practically use up a set of 21 inch tyres on Friday night.
Awesome accomadation and get to eat some amazing food that Damo69 organised.
Apple pie cooked on a bbq. So good.
Listening to heavy-duty - much wisdom and bullets aren't bullets
Get fucked up on home brew (spirits )
Blow zero. Feel like shit after 1 pass and don't do another until 1000m. Still feel like shit and spend the day curled up in the Galvsport truck.

All in all the boys and girls done a dam good job. Made some good mates out of it amd stories to tell.

Hopefully its just a lull and a new venue pops up.

RW- :)

[ossie_21]

A shame to see it end, massive congrats to everyone who helped bring it together over what I'm sure would have been an alcohol-influenced idea. Was great to see Brockas so happy it was working smoothly at RW1, all the volunteers made a huge effort to help so well done to all. I was still looking forward to going up this year to sneak in some passenger runs because I've sold my car but not everything lasts forever

Even though I had a broken finger that I'm sure I did extra damage to by holding the steering wheel hard on brakes after just the 800m run, it was a great event to be a part of. Chopped an Aston Martin, got chopped by some race car on my first run, didn't realise one of my runs was a rolling start & just hammered it all the way from the start line lol....all of it was good fun! :)

[Oversteer]

Sad to to see it go was a great experience for competitors and spectators alike....something wa sorely needs, would have though the town would have been very happy with the money it brought in(3 towns sold out accommodation, local stores just about sold out of everything...pub going off.

Anyway life goes on....and it seems i'm not the only one seriously considering going to Snowy's, seems the competition for 300+ is pretty stiff these days but its still worth trying for a spot on the list, i would love to be able to head over with a billet block so power could be reliable and lessen the chance of the trek and expense to fail early..but that's racing i guess !

Who's keen to see what the Snowy Mountains 1000's experience feels like ?

[S133LTR]

Unfortunately if you havnt put in an expression of interest for SM1000 its already too late afaik??

Will be keen for next year though. Also pretty interested in the salt flats event Shane posted.

[DISTRBD]

70's aero is also crap


Didn't see no 70's model on it's roof though .....

[SimonR32]

What the fuck am I going to do with all these spare gearboxes now?

[heavyduty1340]

I have just started a new 408ci blown combo for the VF ute - that was to be this years entry :-(

Well one good thing I will never forget is the friendly banter from our group on the Sat Night - bloody good night... and someone introduced me to this. Not good when your a coffee lover - Sorry for skulling a bit of it Damien lol

http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr146/heavyduty1340/coffee%20tequila.jpg (http://s478.photobucket.com/user/heavyduty1340/media/coffee%20tequila.jpg.html)

[S85FI]

I have just started a new 408ci blown combo for the VF ute - that was to be this years entry :-(

Well one good thing I will never forget is the friendly banter from our group on the Sat Night - bloody good night... and someone introduced me to this. Not good when your a coffee lover - Sorry for skulling a bit of it Damien lol

http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr146/heavyduty1340/coffee%20tequila.jpg (http://s478.photobucket.com/user/heavyduty1340/media/coffee%20tequila.jpg.html)
You drank it like a morning coffee.... next minute it was 2 am and we're rolling to get to the bed. Lots offood and drinks that night. Damo did so well.

[Riggs]

Zelko, I have zero recollection of slapping your ass.

But will gladly do it again.

Way to many memories and notable moments to list. I'm just glad I could be involved & now I know what I sound like behind a mic.

[Damo 69]

I have just started a new 408ci blown combo for the VF ute - that was to be this years entry :-(

Well one good thing I will never forget is the friendly banter from our group on the Sat Night - bloody good night... and someone introduced me to this. Not good when your a coffee lover - Sorry for skulling a bit of it Damien lol

http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr146/heavyduty1340/coffee%20tequila.jpg (http://s478.photobucket.com/user/heavyduty1340/media/coffee%20tequila.jpg.html)

after the first gulp I think we were all cheering your effort on the Café Patron!

[S85FI]

Zelko, I have zero recollection of slapping your ass.

But will gladly do it again.

Way to many memories and notable moments to list. I'm just glad I could be involved & now I know what I sound like behind a mic.

I only remember because yu told me how firm it was and i thought that just was weird then thought maybe thats what AL does...... then we just drank :)

[dmanvan]

Anyone up for some tasteful letter writing... plenty of contact details here..http://www.wyalkatchem.wa.gov.au/council/test/

....they even have a "councilor Butt" (hehe, hehe, in minion tone)

so many business opportunities at the airport !! (blank page_) http://www.wyalkatchem.wa.gov.au/bussiness/business-opportunities-an/airport/

Although they do have a big "fly in" event happening end of this month......

Looking at the specs of the airfield it clearly states that it is an unlicensed airfield and permission for landing is not required and no landing fees (page 3 of this doc http://www.wyalkatchem.wa.gov.au/uploaded/files/client_added/Fly%20In%20Poster%20April%202016.pdf

So if you really wanted a test run of your vehicle for top speed, you could add some 'wings' sort of top gear challenge spec , add a 2Way (UHF)etc for realism, make sure you have wing lights so you look like a plane trying to take off..... "Officer I am trying to fly back to Perth in my ultralight, but I am not getting enough lift tonight....." (accommodation for this little exercise would also be freely provided by the mental health department of wyalcatchem hospital), so win/win.... test /tune/flight/accomodation/ probably even vehicle transpoort back to Perth

Price TBA....... bookings not essential..,...:D

who's in ...... RW2016.5 .....

[Fukushima]

I don't think anyone from here other than the organisers contacting the council is a good idea

Whatever slim chance of a future event exists would go up in smoke



Edit: you could write to the local paper thanking the community for the privilege of visiting for three years and saying you will miss the event.

But don't blame anyone

[dmanvan]

could quote some of their own words from their minutes too about how successful the event was in 2015 and how much money people were spending to bring the record back to WA seeing as the east coast took it........

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/eight2ten/RW.wyacatchem.minutes.jpg :confused:

may'be they need a plaque donated as a forever reminder that they once had the fastest 1000m run in the country at the time......:)

..

[Buckets]

From my end I've no interest in continuing or reviving the event in Wyalkatchem, I know a few of the team would love to go again in Wylie but for me personally I'm happy to move on. Maybe in time someone will revive it out there but I can't see me getting motivated to head out there again.

I think it best to let them follow their dreams for the facility and to be honest there's other projects on the boil with other parties that will consign RW to a quaint memory for me at least.

Anyone for some no bullshit closed road Touge ?

http://damnedwerk.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Hakone-Motorhead-Hillclimb-z4-770x418.png

This video makes me think many many interesting things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORu58PY1S_g

[dmanvan]

Back in 99 a little village in NZ called tauganga used to close off part of their new motorway for runs in a mini targa event.....with the amount of whinging about bikes closing freeway , not sure how many numpties would come out if they heard freeway being closed for what would be labelled as hoons'.....

where there is a will there is always a way though...

[HotAe92]

Massive shame about RW16. Was such a great event and have many memories as both a spectator and volunteer. Kudos to the RW committee for giving it a solid crack and pulling off the event that it was for 3 years running.

Wishful thinking I suppose, but it's a little disappointing that RAAF were never open to the idea of hosting the 2-day event at Gingin (given that a civilian aero club is based out of Gingin). The location (55km from Perth) and layout would have been ideal.

[crabman]

I don't think anyone from here other than the organisers contacting the council is a good idea

Whatever slim chance of a future event exists would go up in smoke



Edit: you could write to the local paper thanking the community for the privilege of visiting for three years and saying you will miss the event.

But don't blame anyone

I disagre, there is nothing wrong with previous competitors/stall holders/sponsors advising elected councillors how upset they are that such a unique event that brings money to the town has been lost.

[Damo 69]

I disagre, there is nothing wrong with previous competitors/stall holders/sponsors advising elected councillors how upset they are that such a unique event that brings money to the town has been lost.
Without knowing the full story and all the ins/outs and angles it would be most unwise to start firing letters off to the council

Just rip a skid out the front of the council office and be done with it

[DISTRBD]

may'be they need a plaque donated as a forever reminder that they once had the fastest 1000m run in the country at the time......:)

..

They have that reminder already , doubt those skid marks will fade away any time soon :P

[Evman]

Without knowing the full story and all the ins/outs and angles it would be most unwise to start firing letters off to the council


LOL really? So you decline to comment on anything political, at all, because we never really get all the ins and outs? I've lost track of the number of emails I've sent to local councillors and members of parliament. How else are they going to get an idea of what the broader community wants?

Pester the shit out of them. They're public servants, opinions from we the public are part of the job.

[adrenalin]

Back in 99 a little village in NZ called tauganga used to close off part of their new motorway for runs in a mini targa event.....with the amount of whinging about bikes closing freeway , not sure how many numpties would come out if they heard freeway being closed for what would be labelled as hoons'.....

where there is a will there is always a way though...

been there. Place is amazing

[crabman]

LOL really? So you decline to comment on anything political, at all, because we never really get all the ins and outs? I've lost track of the number of emails I've sent to local councillors and members of parliament. How else are they going to get an idea of what the broader community wants?

Pester the shit out of them. They're public servants, opinions from we the public are part of the job.

Exactly. As long as it is kept civil, they need to hear about decisions they have/havn't made due to laziness and close mindedness.

[skidkid]

Pester the shit out of them. They're public servants, opinions from we the public are part of the job.

They serve the town, I dare say they give 0 fucks about the thoughts of somebody that visited their town 2-3 times for an event that they didn't want.

I'd also suggest that there isn't any benefit to be gained in pestering the Councillors. Buckets has expressed that he has no desire to return to the town, so surely it would be better to depart cleanly and without hassle?

[American Dave]

Local Council of Wylie gives zero fucks about antilag and RW's you can be sure of this.

[Sensible]

It all sounds like the sprint event that we did in Wylie years ago, Brought 100 drivers to the the town for the weekend so there were $$$$ spent and for it all to fall flat on it's face after two years

What ever happened the airstrip in Gingin that was used for the early Classic Rally events? we use to run top speed runs there also

[Evman]

They serve the town, I dare say they give 0 fucks about the thoughts of somebody that visited their town 2-3 times for an event that they didn't want.

I'd also suggest that there isn't any benefit to be gained in pestering the Councillors. Buckets has expressed that he has no desire to return to the town, so surely it would be better to depart cleanly and without hassle?
So do you just roll over for anyone simply because they give zero fucks about your opinion in general or do you just save that for elected officials? That's the sort of opinion that allows governments in Australia to do whatever they want and get away with it.

No one said anything about kicking up a stink, but if a thousand people emailed the council saying they enjoyed coming to town for the event, and all the small business owners express how they're disappointed they're going to miss out on that revenue, then that's something the councillors have to answer for.

Having actually lived in a town of 900 for 20 of the 30 years I happen to know how much influence a handful of people can have, and how beneficial these kinds of events are for the greater region.

[S85FI]

So do you just roll over for anyone simply because they give zero fucks about your opinion in general or do you just save that for elected officials? That's the sort of opinion that allows governments in Australia to do whatever they want and get away with it.

No one said anything about kicking up a stink, but if a thousand people emailed the council saying they enjoyed coming to town for the event, and all the small business owners express how they're disappointed they're going to miss out on that revenue, then that's something the councillors have to answer for.

Having actually lived in a town of 900 for 20 of the 30 years I happen to know how much influence a handful of people can have, and how beneficial these kinds of events are for the greater region.

This.

Spot on. Decisions are made from political pressure and not from what a 'local'wanted.

[skidkid]

Nope, but when one of the organizers has publicly said that he doesn't want the event to return to the town, what benefit is there in annoying the Councillors of said town? I don't know if there are any fees outstanding or if there is any RW owned equipment stored up at Wylie, but it makes more sense (to me atleast) to let the sleepy little town be happy in their decision to move on from RW, rather than annoy or pester them.

[Evman]

Doesn't matter if Racewars has had its day. As long as the council has a paper trail showing a large amount of support for this sort of event so that in the future it can be called upon if needed to show a proposed event could work. Mayors change, and they can just as easily start an event as they can end it. All the more easily achieved if there's a paper trail.

I don't think many city people realise the blight of country towns. They're dying and dying fast. Getting people into a town even for a weekend is of huge benefit. Be it now or in 40 years when the current generation are retiring and looking for a tree change, a town with a demonstrated willingness to try new things and entertain the locals is going to have a better chance of attracting new residents than a town stuck in a rut for decades.

[1JZVL]

Then a few locals started rattling the cage again saying we'd fucked the runway (which engineering reports confirmed we didn't) but it just gave those who didn't like the nothingness of their existance out there being disturbed something else to whinge about.


That there in ONE sentence is why this fucking shit-hole of a state is so far behind the country, let alone the world, in terms of motoring and social mentality. You have some people wanting to do the right thing, but then the stuck in the mud brain dead ruin it as usual.

Enjoyed the event both times, even the drive out there and back to Perth was worthwhile. Maybe another time and different location, doesn't bother me though as it was fun whilst it lasted and wouldn't want them any other way.

[crabman]

I hope those 'locals' paid for the engineering report and it backfird on them and cost them money.

[fourseven]

E041213 · Professional Services (21,982)
An appraisal of the airstrip was needed in order to decide if Racewars happens again, in doing this a full asset management plan was obtained ($9,996).

I assume this it the "engineering report" that was obtained? They say there are 3 sides to every story. I find it hard to believe that the CEO, despite how much of a cockhole he is, woke up one morning and decided he didn't want Racewars to return. I find it even harder to believe that the councillors, all of who I know well and most of who have volunteered their time each year to Racewars accepted his reasons without proper justification. Anyone from Racewars want to confirm the Shire wanted to pass this cost onto the event?

The minutes of the next council meeting will have full details of why the event isn't returning. I hope the appraisal does in fact say the airstrip is perfectly fine.

[thommo]

When's the next meeting? March's one said the aerodrome is a good asset for the area


The aerodrome also provides excellent facilities for recreational and industrial use with agricultural crop spray a major function. In addition, the aerodrome has seen increased use by business people traversing the state and the site has hosted a number of events attracting up to 3,000 visitors, such as Racewars

[fourseven]

Next week I think.

[magic1]

10k for an appraisal of the Airstrip.

that is fucking theft. did the Dowerin CEO organise it?

lolllllllllllll

[Poktrokt]

When the CEO rang to notify us he said it was voted against in the last meeting, "we have decided to go in a different direction" also said, "there wasn't enough support by the town for RW to continue" and "we don't have enough staff to commit to organising such a large event"

Of course there is no perm damage to the strip, they have organised the fly by event for small planes which they magically must believe will bring the same business in to town.

We don't want to kick up sand as they will simply make it impossible for us to get approval so either way the event will not continue there.

There's not much more we can say, we are as disappointed as you all.


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[dmanvan]

hah, the fly-in.//... few people from town come out to watch some planes land and take off again when they realise that the airfield is out of town from all their great attractions......

on another note, how awesome would 1/2 mile (800m) side by sides be at this location...... "The single 1,290 m × 18 m (4,232 ft × 59 ft) runway runs east-west and is situated behind Thomsons Bay and south of Government House Lake.[1] Part of the lake was resumed for the construction of the airport runway. The Rottnest Tram track runs south of and parallel to the runway.""

:)

[Riggs]

For what it's worth I think everyone jumping to conclusions & finger pointing needs to stop. It will achieve nothing but animosity.

We have just been told RW is over, sad as it is all things come to an end at some point. Remember it for what it was, good fucking fun.

Instead lets all look forwards to the potential of this type of motorsport as it is growing rapidly worldwide and I have no doubt that other opportunities will present themselves in the future.

[S133LTR]

Instead lets all look forwards to the potential of this type of motorsport as it is growing rapidly worldwide and I have no doubt that other opportunities will present themselves in the future.

The big question is where I guess.. how far are people willing to travel for an event like this? People will drive from all over the country for the SM1000 yet it seemed like a lot of local entrants were discouraged by a 2 hour drive to wyly...

[DISTRBD]

yet it seemed like a lot of local entrants were discouraged by a 2 hour drive to wyly...

Because Sooks ..

[Damo 69]

The big question is where I guess.. how far are people willing to travel for an event like this? People will drive from all over the country for the SM1000 yet it seemed like a lot of local entrants were discouraged by a 2 hour drive to wyly...

talking is a lot easier then throwing around wild claims

[-Luke-]

*Socks

[S133LTR]

talking is a lot easier then throwing around wild claims

?? I thought throwing around wild claims was just talking??

[TJ]

events without corners are crap if I can't make money off of them and harass your girlfriend

[Nugs]

talking is a lot easier then throwing around wild claims
You're just saying that because your RB28 cant do 14000rpm.

[Buckets]

A lot of people didn't want to drive 2hr's to Wylie because it was Wylie and there wasn't anything really there in terms of accom or facilities. In some ways this was a good thing as it kept some of the mongs away but those who seriously wanted to race came regardless. We knew it was always going to be an issue for some people but thats life.

Both Temora & Cooma (Snowys) are over 4hr's out of Sydney and those that wish to race still go there.

Busselton was ever so briefly under consideration and it would of been interesting to see what excuses people made not to drive a few hours to one of WA's tourism capitals with all the accom options and services you could think of on tap. I'd wager even if the RAAF / ADF had of let us use Gingin some people would of pissed and moaned about driving ~1hr each way daily.

There is no pleasing some, so there no point worring about it.

I'm enjoying having a heaps more free time though so I'm happy. :D

[American Dave]

They cant take away the memories.....

[Phyber]

Or my way too big 2015 shirt. Anyone got a small/medium out there that wants a large? :)

[Gr3mlin]

A lot of people didn't want to drive 2hr's to Wylie because it was Wylie and there wasn't anything really there in terms of accom or facilities. In some ways this was a good thing as it kept some of the mongs away but those who seriously wanted to race came regardless. We knew it was always going to be an issue for some people but thats life.

Both Temora & Cooma (Snowys) are over 4hr's out of Sydney and those that wish to race still go there.

Busselton was ever so briefly under consideration and it would of been interesting to see what excuses people made not to drive a few hours to one of WA's tourism capitals with all the accom options and services you could think of on tap. I'd wager even if the RAAF / ADF had of let us use Gingin some people would of pissed and moaned about driving ~1hr each way daily.

There is no pleasing some, so there no point worring about it.

I'm enjoying having a heaps more free time though so I'm happy. :D

I only ever went as a spectator but I loved the fact it was a couple hours out of Perth and camped out on the oval. It turned it from just some weekend event to a weekend away with mates of cars, drinking and kicking a footy for me.

[DISTRBD]

A lot of people didn't want to drive 2hr's to Wylie because it was Wylie and there wasn't anything really there in terms of accom or facilities.

Wylie had hot showers and normal toilets , 5 star compared to the facilities we get when we go away racing .

[Evman]

Except for when people better described as animals spew and shit everywhere but in the bowl. That was an embarrassment for human-kind.

[Damo 69]

I only ever went as a spectator but I loved the fact it was a couple hours out of Perth and camped out on the oval. It turned it from just some weekend event to a weekend away with mates of cars, drinking and kicking a footy for me.

good part of the event is its a weekend away on the piss and some racing in it aswell.


Boobs, Beers & Burnouts

[S85FI]

Except for when people better described as animals spew and shit everywhere but in the bowl. That was an embarrassment for human-kind.

Standard anywhere. When i was working clubs full time chicks toilets the worst. Sometimes toilet looked like a cross between a murder scene and a shit truck leak. Sometimes chick passed out amongst it.

[TJ]

Lets take a moment to remember DAT ASS

[Sebdullah]

As a volunteer it was always fun in the barracks especially 2014, glad wrapping cars, making young-uns drinking excessively..... good times

[Riggs]

Lets take a moment to remember DAT ASS

This.

AJH ftw

[Damo 69]

Lets take a moment to remember DAT ASS

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[fourseven]

The Shire of Wyalkatchem has operated an aerodrome at the current location
under a management order from the Department of Lands since July 1949.
The aerodrome is a major infrastructure asset held by the Shire providing all
weather access for light to medium sized aircraft.

Accordingly, use by recreational and business flyers is a core purpose of the
aerodrome. Additionally, emergent use by Royal Flying Doctor Service is of
particular importance to the community and must be considered a primary use
for this facility.

There has been some commercial use of the site by business, including a
flight school and agricultural spraying. Attempts at regulating lease hold over
operations has had mixed success – in part due to the lack of ownership by
the Shire of the aerodrome land which was retained by the State and the
absence of a co-ordinated approach to developing the aerodrome. However,
flight related business must be considered a core purpose of the site.

In addition, there is recent history of the site being used by the Porsche
Festival and Racewars motor vehicle events. These events have had mixed
results in delivering economic benefit and community participation with some
good visitor crowd numbers accompanied by issues around health and safety
management; tardy communications; uncertainty around event timing; road
safety concerns; and a need to utilise a high level of Shire resources
(particularly staff time).

Attempts by the Shire to include the RAC’s Elephant in the Wheatbelt were
declined because of the Racewars concept. In addition, intervention by WA
Police in traffic management of Racewars participants has been an ongoing
issue. Moreover, the use of the airstrip for high speed motor vehicle events
(particularly where rolling starts are not observed) was identified as an issue
for the preservation of the asset by Lycopodium Asset Management in
September 2015. Despite requests since October 2013, a strategic plan for
the event has not been forthcoming, which means the event cannot be
sanctioned or funded by Tourism WA.

An event that is safely conducted, can be sanctioned by regulators and
supported by institutions while adding value to the economy of the district
should be supported; this is particularly so if it is sympathetic with the core
purpose of the aerodrome and aligns with Council’s strategic planning. Use of
the airstrips for high speed motor vehicle use while raising the risk profile of
the local government has poor alignment with the core purpose of the site.
Some upgrade works occurred in 2000 but a Strategic Plan prepared by the
Shire’s CEO in 2008 was followed by a business case the following year with
plans for the facility to be further upgraded. Consequently, there was a
significant investment by the Government and Council between 2009 and
2012 costing $3.2 million that resulted in the construction of a terminal
building and an additional airstrip. This is a significant investment and proper
stewardship requires that the asset be preserved and maintained.
Since completion, there has not been a significant growth in core use of the
facility.

Council identified as early as 2010 that some development issues might be
addressed by purchasing the site from the State. Enquiries were made for a
valuation and formal expression to purchase followed. This was not secured
until November 2015 with the purchase of the aerodrome from the State for
$63,734. This means that Council is now able to determine use of the site
without reference to the Minister, enabling leases or sub-division and other
options to be considered.

It is now timely to consider the long term use of the aerodrome. Activities at
the facility must align with Council’s requirements for asset preservation and
value generation; they must align with Council’s strategic plans; they must not
reflect poorly on the local government and contribute to the attainment of the
Mission and Vision of the Shire; in planning and carrying these activities out,
all risk must be considered and addressed; and, they must have an identifiable
net positive benefit to the community, otherwise there is no value in them occurring.

Strategy discussions at Council in the last two years can be summarised as
focussed on the core use of the aerodrome; asset preservation; encouraging
industry; and maximising safety.

Preliminary planning thus far has allowed for the following:
 Asset planning to maximise maintenance and preservation of the
facility as a whole (a review and plan was completed September
2015);
 Negotiate lease arrangements with the current occupants of any
facility within the aerodrome (this can now commence with title
secured);
 Plan and construct units to accommodate industry directly related to
aircraft or trades at a rate that benefits the community of Wyalkatchem
(planning has commenced and is subject to funding which has been
applied for);
 Investigate with a view to installing premium grade fuel for the refuelling
of aircraft at a commercial rate of return;
 Upgrade facilities to maximise the use of the terminal at a commercial
rate of return;
 Complete appropriate assessments and planning to enable the hosting
of events that are sympathetic with the core use of the aerodrome (this
is being investigated);
 Consult or engage with any party, including utilities, in the long-term
planning for the facility to maximise the return on investment in this
asset.

The overall integration of activities would therefore be aimed at generating
revenues that would as a minimum equate to the annual costs of maintaining
the facility (currently $24,000 per annum).
Preparation of concept planning for a major event in keeping with the site’s
core purpose has proceeded; this event would support related services at the
aerodrome and would not preclude static displays or other complementary
activities, while supporting each of the above points of planning.

Given all of the above and discussions at Council in the last two years,
interactions with Racewars, WA Police and the WA Health Department
indicate that the Racewars event is not aligned with the above strategy. The
agreement for three years (2013, 2014 and 2015) has been complied with and
it is recommended that options for 2016 and 2017 not be pursued.

[TJ]

http://www.lycopodium.com.au/index.php

No wonder it cost 10k

[Phyber]

Too many hoons/skids on and around the airstrip is my impression from that?

[yohoes]

I still think the best thing about Racewars was its where I saw an XD Falcon chop a Lambo in front of a thousand people

[S85FI]

Too many hoons/skids on and around the airstrip is my impression from that?

Nope. Way off.

Business model didn't tick the boxes on paper therefore couldn't support it.

[Alt_F4]

http://www.lycopodium.com.au/index.php

No wonder it cost 10k
Exactly what I thought.

[Oversteer]

Nope. Way off.

Business model didn't tick the boxes on paper therefore couldn't support it.

Yeah because the business model doesn't include skids (where rolling starts were not adhered too).

asset preservation, asset preservation, asset preservation ....you can see if that terminal building and little airstrip cost them $3.2M how much they think damage to the already weathered surface would cost to repair.

[TJ]

Be keen to see formal numbers of speeders caught and hoon law charges as opposed to insinuated ones via opinions

[Phyber]

Yeah this is the bit that stuck out for me in amongst all the talk of intended purpose and "business".


In addition, intervention by WA Police in traffic management of Racewars participants has been an ongoing issue.

Didn't think there were that many incidents to justify it being called "ongoing"?

[S85FI]

Yeah this is the bit that stuck out for me in amongst all the talk of intended purpose and "business".



Didn't think there were that many incidents to justify it being called "ongoing"?
2013/14/15 :o)

[Buckets]

Lads.

There's a lot I ardently disagree with and some willfully misleading and incorrect details in that statement with regards to RW and I do think it's not a fair and proper assesment of RW's impact on the town or the facility given what I know BUT they have an agenda and aspirations for the facility and that is what it is.

Now Wylie wasn't going to work for us going forward commercialy, we didn't work for them so it's done.

Remember the fun times that were and let's leave it here.

[fourseven]

That's from the local government council meeting minutes Jon. If there are wilfully misleading details please speak up. Let the Councillors know at least, they can only govern on what he's presented them. I'm certain we share the same opinion on Ian McCabe and if he's misleading the Council he needs to be held accountable.

[skidkid]

issues around health and safety management;

LOL'd at this one, although Don Burke did roll his ankle on day one though, so I guess the H&S management wasn't perfect.

[Buckets]

It's done Rhett. It's over; so they are welcome to run with what ever version of events and take on the facts that suits their purposes. I'm not in the slightest bit concerned as there is nothing at stake anymore from my end.

I think it best to let the guys who are closing out the final details with regards to some of our bonds and assets with Ian to do their work without me throwing fuel on the fire and lobbing grenades at the council especially given the suppprt people like Dave & Emma and others in the town have always provided us.

Fin.

[S85FI]

That's from the local government council meeting minutes Jon. If there are wilfully misleading details please speak up. Let the Councillors know at least, they can only govern on what he's presented them. I'm certain we share the same opinion on Ian McCabe and if he's misleading the Council he needs to be held accountable.


It's done Rhett. It's over; so they are welcome to run with what ever version of events and take on the facts that suits their purposes. I'm not in the slightest bit concerned as there is nothing at stake anymore from my end.

I think it best to let the guys who are closing out the final details with regards to some of our bonds and assets with Ian to do their work without me throwing fuel on the fire and lobbing grenades at the council especially given the suppprt people like Dave & Emma and others in the town have always provided us.

Fin.

So what really happen? Who fucked who?

[volt_bite]

Surprise announcement on Facebook or someone hi-jack the page?!

[dmanvan]

^^ From their last minutes...

"That Council resolve the following:
1. That options to host the Racewars event in 2016 and 2017 not be
pursued; and,
2. That the CEO be authorised to write to the Racewars organisers to
officially notify them of the decision by Council.
Vote: 6/0
Minutes for OMC 21 April 2016 Page 50 of 98
Cr Holdsworth mentioned that there have been some negative comments from Racewars on
facebook.
Cr Garner suggested that we use this agenda item to explain to the public the reasoning
behind not having Racewars in 2017."

not sure if they have had another meeting since then or minutes not available yet? the suspense....................................:eek:

[dmanvan]

mmmm looking through comments on the side of FB page .... seems some discussion was happening last night....... "How's 1800m long, 30m wide and with a surface better that most public roads sound ? " ref: RW facebook visitor posts section.....

having just been down south myself and driven past a particular airstrip down that way that matches those dimensions....perfectly.... :D ....

[Nugs]

So keen.

[volt_bite]

Busselton-Margaret River Regional Airport ?

Seems it may fit those dimensions :p

[TJ]

A looooooooooooooooooooooooooooot to resolve.

But the Phoenix appears to be preparing to bust out of the ashes.

And yes, its not at the old location rhettgretably

[dmanvan]

Busselton-Margaret River Regional Airport ?

Seems it may fit those dimensions :p haha.. my thoughts exactly... well their jetty is over 1800m but not nearly wide enough for side by side......

[Damo 69]

I am sure wyalkatchem business owner will cry a river in 1 - 2 years

but the new potential location has an awesome strip, is less of a shit hole, and the town wants the event.

win win for all.

[DanWA]

rhettgretably

lol'd

[heavyduty1340]

haha.. my thoughts exactly... well their jetty is over 1800m but not nearly wide enough for side by side......

Albany??

[S85FI]

I am sure wyalkatchem business owner will cry a river in 1 - 2 years

but the new potential location has an awesome strip, is less of a shit hole, and the town wants the event.

win win for all.

But that Apple Pie. ...

[dmanvan]

Albany?? only airports I could find that fit those dimensions are ALH and BQB.... although the second one is set for a big expansion that won't be fully completed until 2018..

On a side note for those progressive shires/localities , Royalties for regions has been a real boon for Airport redevelopments. There has been a swag of money spent on these places (and to be spent) .... oh to get a season pass, for testing of course...:D...

[Skitzo]

It's Albany pingpingpingpings.

[Evman]

It's Albany pingpingpingpings.
Too far away...

[Phyber]

Yep shut down the freeway or no one will come

[S85FI]

Too far away...
2 hour drive Whats the issue

[adrenalin]

Seems they spelt Autobahn wrong

[Damo 69]

Too far away...

my instagram likes is enough evidence of my cars performance

[Buckets]

Settle settle.

Still many many things to be done prior to bringing the circus back to life.

RW's return is part of a big push by private enterprise and the council to facilitate the growth of motorsport in the region and what we are doing is a mere drop in the ocean compared with what is being planned down there.

For what its worth let's consign Wylie to the history books where it belongs now. For the record I don't have any axe to grind with Wylie and neither does anyone else really. What's done is done and it was always going to wind up with us out growing the town and the town was always going to want more than we had any hope of delivering there, we are moving onwards and upwards and thanks to the agreement being terminated we can go play elsewhere. ;)

The bigger picture paints a much clearer picture.

For what it's worth though.
1800m long + 100m run off and the surface is perfect.
We are still allowing head to head runs up to 1/2mile roll on's.
Drag Radials should be signed off which will be a game changer.
The flip side is no skids. And no skids will actually mean no skids. Paint the strip and you will get told to piss off. We know there will be some wheelspin but we all know the difference between someone having a go and someone taking the piss.

Thats it for now.

[Phyber]

Drag radials on AWD monsters should mean I get hosed even more thoroughly than before which will be amusing. Potentially less stone chips to face during the situation so win-win!

No skids is less fun to watch but as a driver I don't have the cash to burn a set of tyres in one weekend anyway :)

Looking forward to further announcements! :D

[ALEX.]

"Oh cool, new venue. So bikes are allowed now hey?"
;)

[n1ghth4wk]

I haven't ever been down there but in terms of this airstrip environment, how will it compare to wylie?

ie Wind, sand, stonechips, I'm assuming there will be less/none?, hopefully this can be marketed towards getting some more supercars interested again, and obviously a decent saving dustex wise.

[TJ]

With no disrespect to anyone.

Wyllie - local pickup basketball at an old outdoor court with no nets because they were stolen

Albany - NBL at Perth Arena

[heavyduty1340]

I bet it is 20 degrees cooler to.

Will be nice in the cool weather - especially if suiting up.

[big o]

TJ is right, the air strip down there accommodates for commercial airlines not crop dusters so the facilities are perfect

and the town center is only 10 kms down the road, with many places to stay hotels. motels and camping grounds. Not to mention pubs and eateries in the town center.

For me this will be a great family trip as some of us older guys have wife's and kids now it will be awesome.

[Buckets]

Theres a distillery in town.

I was sold on that alone.

[Phyber]

Can we potentially camp somewhere as well or is it likely to be housed accommodation only? I enjoyed the camping with mates aspect as did the missus, plus easier on the hip pocket.

[Evman]

500rwhp never feels as inadequate as it does at Racewars :( Come on lotto you sonbitch!

[n1ghth4wk]

Oh and is there a nightclub down there or what? ALM VIP takeover time if so.

[apg39]

Pretty shit nightclub but that describes 98% of nightclubs anyway. One less pub after last nights arson at the Prem.

I fully support the Albany move...mainly because I'm 2kms away from the airport.

[S85FI]

I bet it is 20 degrees cooler to.

Will be nice in the cool weather - especially if suiting up.

80%chance rain every day.

[Lonewolf]

TJ is right, the air strip down there accommodates for commercial airlines not crop dusters so the facilities are perfect

and the town center is only 10 kms down the road, with many places to stay hotels. motels and camping grounds. Not to mention pubs and eateries in the town center.

For me this will be a great family trip as some of us older guys have wife's and kids now it will be awesome.

Yeah much better location, somewhere you'd actually like to stay so you can make it a week or full weekend etc.
Much better for spectators too, sponsors and media - can see it being far better than before.

[S85FI]

ALBANY. .????

Same cars. Same people.
Same gonna.

[Greg Rust]

Farkin I'm in.

[Socrates]

I'm definitely in, will make 4/5 day weekend of it

[apg39]

How would it work with the REX planes down there? Stop for the weekend?

[tex]

http://i.amz.mshcdn.com/I93ZnU5cVvsqaa17TML9Y8ij7gU=/fit-in/850x850/http%3A%2F%2Fmashable.com%2Fwp-content%2Fgallery%2Ftriumph%2Floki.gif

[Tre-Cool]

My Uncle/Aunty live in Albany, so me and dad got accommodation sorted. Only problem for us is to decide which cars to take.

Can we all assume this event wont be till next year? Would imagine there's probably not much time to get one up and running before end of this year as it is.

[dmanvan]

no excuse for the exotic brigade either Albany arent no GOAT track... ballers can even catch a flight down and jump straight into their waiting car on the runway and do runs..:rolleyes:

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[200MPH]

Sweet. Family approved weekend trip! Got family down there and the local GSSM/motorplex mob are numerous and active from my understandings. They've been involved with the June long weekend SES events for years.
Don't forget the locals do a lot of work to make the Albany classic happen every year. A lot... So an airstrip event is a relatively easy thing to sort out in most aspects.

Off to Albany in a few weeks for the Classic and SES events...can't wait! And for RW, South Coast edition, bring it!

[Fukushima]

no excuse for the exotic brigade either Albany arent no GOAT track...
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Doesn't look like they have a return road..

Anyway crossing fingers and toes that this comes together. Its fantastic motivation to fix my car :D

[bigbill5]

as a old Albany boy. I hope it doesn't rain....

[monk_13]

Shit. Maybe I should of changed the gearing in the Evo while getting the transfer case rebuilt... Really hope it works out!

[heavyduty1340]

So will the longest runs still be 1km?
800m braking is awesome

[S133LTR]

Keen to run 1 mile.

[S85FI]

So will the longest runs still be 1km?
800m braking is awesome

Takes the fun out...

[dmanvan]

Keen to run 1 mile. I have added your avatar where I estimate you may end up....
.:eek:

on a side note you may have solved return road issues as there seems to be a bit of a track where you may end up.....:D

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/eight2ten/RW16.5.Mile%20Run%20END.jpg

-- ALBANY MILE...... ALL IN, ONE RUN ,

[Buckets]

Run's the other way, can't have spectators at the hot end of the track and all the entries and facilities are at the Northern end.

As for the 1 mile thing... There's some really really expensive (think remortgage the house and sell body parts spec) ILS beacons down the hot end of the strip so I'd encourage everyone to make use of the ~900m between the end of the 1000m pass to hopefully avoid the crash protection we'll have to install around the ILS beacons to help stop anyone from hitting the beacons.

The bill anyone who goes "Beaconhunting" would receive in the mail would be enough even to make my boss squirm...

TL;DR - No 1 mile runs, please stop when you're supposed to, please don't hit things.

[Phyber]

Install bigass ramps over them instead! Great photo ops.

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/111/1112871/Vanishing_Point1_1282340809.jpg

[heavyduty1340]

This shit is getting better by the day

[Damo 69]

+1 for ramp option

[DISTRBD]

Beacon blocker :P


http://i41.tinypic.com/108b5gg.jpg

[Phyber]

Couldn't help it

http://i.imgur.com/R4U6iz4.jpg

[huggy_b]

I hope so!

[Alt_F4]

Head to head racing?
Barriers at end of airport strip?

Challenge accepted.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAUbdHw8QG4&ab_channel=Movieclips

[BLACK HULK]

Head to head racing?
Barriers at end of airport strip?

Challenge accepted

With regards to the love tap at the end, Will having the biggest vehicle count as cheating?

[Buckets]

http://cdn.speednik.com/files/2015/03/wolfs-word-street-outlaws-versus-nhra3.jpg

Lads.

After watching far too much Street Outlaws I've been waiting for someone to help me sort out a very basic set of rules for a No Prep 1/8th mile "Cash Days" event that may get run on the Saturday night of the RW weekend (with it's own set of rules and entry list) so rather than keep waiting for old mate to chime in what's your thoughts.

A few things to help frame your comments.
This is going to be seperate to the main RW event so it doesn't need to run the same tech rules BUT vehicle standards & safety standards still need to be upheld.
Drag Radials should be approved for use for the entire RW event so they should not be an issue.
There's nowhere to do burnouts unless someone forks out for a concrete pad assuming the council approve the construction of one and RW can't afford to fork out for one.
Assume cars will be leaving on the flashlight with no prep & no pre pass burnout.
Assume there's next to no time to fuck around in the staging lanes pre pass. Make a pass or forfeit.
The council is very very keen to have us run under lights at night however we're not going to line the strip with lighting plants for obvious reasons. A few lighting plants at the start line, the runway lights will be on, something will signal the end of the 1/8 mile and I'd assume that's it.
The council is also very keen for us to open the field to local based cars that may not of entered RW (there's quite a few very tough old school cars lurking down that way I'm lead to believe) or people who wish come down to enter just for the "Cash Days".
The draw will be random and drawn each round. Winner through, looser eliminated.

I'm chasing suggestions for classes, buy in amounts, rules around buying in again ect ect. We've not properly defined what consitutes a "Street Car" either... I can't see anyone entering a Door Slammer but a line in the sand needs to be drawn somewhere regardless.

Prehaps you think it's all a rubbish idea and there's something else we should do instead. Anyways now's your chance to have a say either way and help create what you'd like to see there.

[S133LTR]

Fuk yeah.. no classes.. all in... run what you brung.



*no r35s :p

[RH8 GTR]

This is fucking exciting!

[huggy_b]

1. Define what is an acceptable street car. Also consider that an ANDRA approved cage which is drag racing specific is not acceptable to CAMS and vice versa.
2. There are no classes in what is effectively "street racing".
3. Even drag radials need a quick burnout to work effectively. You don't need to do a 1/4 track smoke show but you still need to spin em up to get any grip. And even with "no prep" they pour VHT liberally over the track.
4. I think you'll need to consider more lighting, if only for the potential of emergency services needing it mid track if an accident occurs.
5. Much like old mate raffling his $10k shitter Skyline on JCPWA, you'll probably need a permit for cash prizes?

I think trying to run what is effectively an illegal activity with no rules under a sanctioned event with rules will always be a comprimise of some sort. Regardless of anything listed above, I suspect the insurance assessors will have the final say on most of it.

[MrSparkle]

Very good idea. As long as its advertised properly I can see this part of the show being very popular.

Classes would be beneficial but I believe in keeping it simple. People will be less inclined to compete in following years if they get hosed by gtrs or wrxs because cold unprepped surface and no burnouts to get good use from drag radials.
Its an 1/8th mile its all about getting off the line.
I suggest awd/rwd classes. For the following year things can be looked at again. If drag radials are working maybe go all in but unless the burnout pad happens their usefullness will be limited.

[Damo 69]

if its got license plates, its legal

Classes

NA
Forced Induction

good to go

[200MPH]

Yeah, this sounds like it. Remember doing a few 1/4 runs on Friday arvo at Wylie 2 years back. Great fun lining up against the 55 BB Chevy and the Green Chev Ute. No point, not serious, just good fun! Though I did try to win of course...can't help it.

This at night with strip lights on - photographers dream I'm sure. Not too much lighting please!

I think keep it super simples, a-la Powercruise event 1/8th Mile street racing. Random match ups, not burnouts or tyre warming (we'd better not hurt a decent commercial airport - this event does not need that, not matter how much fun it may be to rip a skid), light flash and go!

Only rules I think are AWD and 2WD classes, as above. Plus all the basic safety rules as per normal 1/8 mile drags.

[200MPH]

if its got license plates, its legal

Classes

NA
Forced Induction

good to go

NA/Forced classes not needed. All your forced induction won't help on 1/8 mile unprepared strip and no burnouts. NA will be more of a chance to get through in many cases, in 2WD at least. And can't think of any AWD cars that would not be FI.

[Daisy]

^power isnt really the determining factor, its more driveline. most 4wd's will have it over rwd. i`d say that would really be the only class split that would be needed, more so just so it keeps rwd entrys interested rather than them just assuming their going to get smashed by a sequential gtr.

this very much tickles my interest.

[Damo 69]

also

2g buy in winner takes all

[S133LTR]

Keen to see big chief buckets shuffling backawards to flag the light with a flat brim and socks pulled up.

[American Dave]

hot damn this has all the elements and feels of a good old boys down home street racing for cash....I love it but I cant imagine being allowed due to all the above mentioned insurance fun police

[Tre-Cool]

could you not get a 1/4 thick steel/iron plates put down for the skids? drop them down before the runway portion and peg them down.

[S85FI]

hot damn this all the elements and feels of a good old boys down home street racing for cash....I love it but I cant imagine being allowed due to all the above mentioned insurance fun police

No doubt liquor and gaming will be there in a flash....

[Evoboycorey]

1) Decreased buy in for RW competitors, eg $50 for non competitor, $30 with RW entry. Similar to how you charge extra for 1000m runs, but open it to non RW entrants.
2) Car must at least be registered. Engineered or "street" spec should not be as picky as what Whoop-Ass was (full interior spare tyre etc) I think that's a bit excessive. A lot of people with modern "street cars" remove unnecessary parts for weigh reduction.
3) Appoint a "third party" adjudicator (someone affiliated with the council rather than AL or RW group). With a mandatory buy in and prize money on the line, I could imagine there may be a few disputes over jump starts etc which would be hard to resolve when not using official timing equipment.
4) RWD and AWD split into classes.

[Evilteddy]

No doubt liquor and gaming will be there in a flash....

(i)Surely you know someone to help with that!(/i)

[masTers]

No doubt liquor and gaming will be there in a flash....

Only if it's a public holiday, those miserable pricks only work for penalty rates.

[huggy_b]

1) Decreased buy in for RW competitors, eg $50 for non competitor, $30 with RW entry. Similar to how you charge extra for 1000m runs, but open it to non RW entrants.

It's not peasant wars - tall stacks of cabbages or GTFO.


2) Car must at least be registered. Engineered or "street" spec should not be as picky as what Whoop-Ass was (full interior spare tyre etc) I think that's a bit excessive. A lot of people with modern "street cars" remove unnecessary parts for weigh reduction.

Piffle to "rego". Half the rego'd cars wouldn't pass a legitimate pit inspection so in a lot of respects it's meaningless.


3) Appoint a "third party" adjudicator (someone affiliated with the council rather than AL or RW group). With a mandatory buy in and prize money on the line, I could imagine there may be a few disputes over jump starts etc which would be hard to resolve when not using official timing equipment.

Video cameras, you don't need a 3rd party. The flag man is the authority.


4) RWD and AWD split into classes.

It's street racing, you don't give an AWD car a penalty or a RWD car a handicap start in a traffic light race - run what you brung.

[S85FI]

(i)Surely you know someone to help with that!(/i)

Hahaha been busted enough times...... over the years. No idea why though.


Mmmm rebull mate?
Them. ... yeh

Me... sweet - come through. ...

[S85FI]

Only if it's a public holiday, those miserable pricks only work for penalty rates.

I've done events in marble bar etc and further..... and they have rocked up. Normal weekend.

[mr_mike]

It's street racing, you don't give an AWD car a penalty or a RWD car a handicap start in a traffic light race - run what you brung.

But at a traffic light 1000 you're not competing for a stack of cash. Specially over a 1/8th if a 4wd gets a good launch then a big hp rwd car is not going to have the time to run it down.

[DISTRBD]

Piffle to "rego". Half the rego'd cars wouldn't pass a legitimate pit inspection so in a lot of respects it's meaningless.


Maybe not in the city :P

[Tocchi]

*subscribed*

[Buckets]

Braptism v Crapri grudge match ?

Thanks for the feedback everyone.

Will see what our buddies at Lloyds have to say about it all.

[S85FI]

But at a traffic light 1000 you're not competing for a stack of cash. Specially over a 1/8th if a 4wd gets a good launch then a big hp rwd car is not going to have the time to run it down.

You do if you get pinged.

Complementary storage and wash too.

[huggy_b]

But at a traffic light 1000 you're not competing for a stack of cash. Specially over a 1/8th if a 4wd gets a good launch then a big hp rwd car is not going to have the time to run it down.
That's what the bloke with his 1300hp R35 thought and got fucking pantsed on Street Outlaws racing for the 10 spot from memory. Drag radials etc for the well sorted rwd cars will level the playing field a fair bit I reckon.

[S133LTR]

*pantsed by a 1000hp big tyre car on slicks with a warm up burnout.

[huggy_b]

*pantsed by a 1000hp big tyre car on slicks with a warm up burnout.
Hush

[S133LTR]

Less hush

More brap

<3

[esky]

It's street racing, you don't give an AWD car a penalty or a RWD car a handicap start in a traffic light race - run what you brung.

When bragging rights are involved, the traffic light races rwd vs awd hardly happen. big hp car's set off slow, to turn it into a roll on, awd will emergency stop at orange to get the red for a lights run.

Nothings more irritating then some cockend in his 300hp wrx beating you to 80kph from the lights then jumping on the brakes before you can reel them in.

[TJ]

Only if it's a public holiday, those miserable pricks only work for penalty rates.

Can assure you they are working flat out over the last few months after a shake up

[masTers]

They only come out and see us once a year, and decide to check our licenses and audit our software on the busiest day of they year - Perth Cup Day.

Anyway, getting back on topic, the best way to avoid the gambling issue is for everyone to pay to enter another separate event on the Saturday night, and then the organizer pays the winner a prize from the entrance fees.

[Evoboycorey]

run what you brung.

Or just Brung what you can't run so everyone can see how cool it looks when static :)

[S133LTR]

I like the idea of keeping the entry fee low.. It would also be good to open it up to grudge racing after the eliminations (time permitting) so that people who go out early can still have a few runs for there money.

If there are going to be classes I guess the logical breakdown is AWD/RWD/FWD.

[bigbill5]

a low fee is good especially the cost of fuel to Albany and back towing a car trailer.

as for a burn out area just pour metho on the tyres plus a match, that should soften them for the rear end wheel
spinners, as they cant produce a good time without slicks, I think its called wheel spin and going no where.!!
get you mates to give a push..!!

[DISTRBD]

a low fee is good especially the cost of fuel to Albany and back towing a car trailer.


LOL the cheapest part of racing , fueling up the tow car :P

[Sensible]

LOL the cheapest part of racing , fueling up the tow car :P

Towed the Girls Evo to Pemberton and back on less than a tank of fuel

[mr_mike]

That's what the bloke with his 1300hp R35 thought and got fucking pantsed on Street Outlaws racing for the 10 spot from memory. Drag radials etc for the well sorted rwd cars will level the playing field a fair bit I reckon.

You do realise that Street Outlaws is more scripted than Home And Away right?

[n1ghth4wk]

Just do it on the streets like normal. If you want a TV show out of it don't even need to pay. Tonight tonight will keep showing the footage plus will do your editing for free as well.

+1 for race what you brang, whether that be an 86, 1600hp lambo, wheelstanding foxbody, or a nitro-meth injected funny car that you took off the trailer 10 minutes prior.

[Buckets]

Here's what we're proposing so far.

Outlaw Class:
If it has 4 wheels and doors you can race (Anything not permitted in Street Class)
Winner takes all.

Realistically won't be a huge feild of Outlaw Class cars...

Street Class AWD / 2WD:
Must be able to legally drive to and from the track (Will have an independant party to adjudicate this point)
No lexan windows
No wheelie bars
DOT approved tyres only (Drag Radials permitted)
AWD winner gets 40% of the pot, RWD winner gets 40% of the pot then let the 2WD & AWD champs battle it out for bragging rights and the remaining 20% of the pot.

Unsure where we set the entry number cut off's or how we screen entrants but we'll work that out later... I expect this to be the biggest class.

Vanuatu's Shittest Engineering & Tax Evasion Consultancy Services has come up with a bit of an idea for a way we can potentially afford to build a small burnout box. Our resident propeller head Tristan will have a proper look and see if the case can be made to council. I think it's a great idea provided we can make it happen.

As for call outs & grudge racing that was always on the cards after the elimination rounds were done and dusted, only way to make it viable value for those who will get knocked off the list early.

Cash Days (or whatever it winds up being called) is going to be a standalone event from RW so seperate entry list / entry fee and so forth. It should be set up so there's no need for a permit under the social gambling provisions of the act which is one less headache to worry about and there's no money going anywhere other than the pot which keeps it simple.

Now... Buy in's. How much lads and do we allow people to buy in again after being eliminated ?

[Phyber]

Buy ins oooer...as a poor pingpingpingping I say no :) but it would be good for people that had a minor problem cost them the race and are kicking themselves at their bad luck. Missed shifts = cha ching! Hahahaha


This is sounding awesome. The idea that the town is putting in ideas and is "very keen" is really encouraging.

[S133LTR]

Id keep the entry/buy in to $50/100. Realistically most of the entrants will be RW guys who've all ready put a lot into being there. If you have 20/30 cars in each class your already looking at a decent win.

Buy back in?? Double the initial buy in..

RW17 is already looking epic.

[Phyber]

Maybe make the two classes' pots whatever the entrant count was instead of possibly stealing from the other class should there be a large disparity in numbers. Take 10% off both and combine to make the final 2WD/AWD head to head pot.

What were the percentages for Racewars in terms of AWD vs 2WD vehicles?

[R3N]

I will run the side betting ring

[huggy_b]

I will run the side betting ring
Will you be partnering with Ruxbet or Radbrokes?

[urabus]

Will you be partnering with Ruxbet or Radbrokes?

Thats lacist

[Greg Rust]

You forgot the motorbike class

[skinkis]

Now... Buy in's. How much lads and do we allow people to buy in again after being eliminated ?




As for buy ins, I reckon $4-500. Should hopefully end up with a decent pot and entice some cars that might not normally attend for some proper spastic racing.

[S85FI]

With all this "Cash Grab"..... I'm thinking who's holding the cash. .... for the grab.

[Sebdullah]

With all this "Cash Grab"..... I'm thinking who's holding the cash. .... for the grab.

Rich Ard?

[Steve]

You forgot the motorbike class

Why joke!?!?
Yeah yeah, we've heard it all before as to why its not possible, but would love to run my ZX12 down the 1000m, as would many other people on their bikes...

[Damo 69]

Why joke!?!?
Yeah yeah, we've heard it all before as to why its not possible, but would love to run my ZX12 down the 1000m, as would many other people on their bikes...

surely if you sat buckets down at the scotto and payed for 12 pints you could pick his brain to put together a bike event.

[skidkid]

Why joke!?!?
Yeah yeah, we've heard it all before as to why its not possible, but would love to run my ZX12 down the 1000m, as would many other people on their bikes...

So man up and run a bike event, instead of relying on other people to make your dreams come true?

[Steve]

There probably wont be enough Bikes to make a Bike only event, you'd have to tack it onto something like this.

Anyways.........

[Brockas]

Why joke!?!?
Yeah yeah, we've heard it all before as to why its not possible, but would love to run my ZX12 down the 1000m, as would many other people on their bikes...
Just to reiterate, it's not possible. We have tried. We cannot even mention bikes to our insurance brokers any more.

[Tocchi]

Just to reiterate, it's not possible. We have tried. We cannot even mention bikes to our insurance brokers any more.

BOUZ pls

[200MPH]

No lexan windows, rude. Manufacturer standard fitment not enough reason to allow as street class? Such discrimination against plastic...sigh.

In Albany presently and keen to get back down here for RW. Feb/march 17?

[Buckets]

There's always one...

[Denver]

No lexan windows, rude. Manufacturer standard fitment not enough reason to allow as street class? Such discrimination against plastic...sigh.

In Albany presently and keen to get back down here for RW. Feb/march 17?

I'm with Julian here. I run plastic side windows but glass front and rear. And it saves probably a few kg at best. Given I'm near 1.5 ton it's not exactly a saving.

[Buckets]

Or just have no windows and save all the weights.

[200MPH]

Or just have no windows and save all the weights.

No italics needed ta Buckets. Up until 2 days ago I was running events over summer sans side windows. Was sweet plan, until WAW failed me at scrutineering. Drags, always gotta be a little different don't they.

Anyways, sideshow aside, stop dodging the question like a politician and gimme RW dates.

[Buckets]

RW Dates will be announced formally in due course once the updated 2017 regulations are signed off with entries to open shortly thereafter. There is a big push on to lock everything away by the end of this month. Let's see how it goes...

Information & entries regarding the the RW Cash Days, RW Sprint Stage, RW Show & Shine and other RW related shenanigans will be released in stages leading up to the event.

The lexan window point is a fair one. I will conceed that and alter the Cash Days rules to suit. Thanks one & all for your input. I hope to see you there.