Bathurst 1000 2016

[TJ]

http://i.imgur.com/koIqHIE.jpg


Scheduled
http://www.supercars.com/bathurst1000/whats-on/track-schedule/

TV Guide
http://www.supercars.com/tv-schedule/

Drivers Line Up
#1 - Winterbottom/Canto - The Bottle O PRA Ford
#2 - Tander/Luff - Shark Bite HRT Holden
#3 - Heimgartner/A.Russell - Plus Fitness LDM Holden
#4 - Davies/van der Drift - Davbridge Erebus Holden
#6 - Waters/Le Brocq - Monster Energy PRA Ford
#7 - T.Kelly/Campbell - CarSales NisMoAu Nissan
#8 - Bright/A.Jones - BOC BJR Holden
#9 - Reynolds/Baird - Penrite Erebus Holden
#12 - Coulthard/Youlden - Shell Helix DJRTP Ford
#14 - Slade/Walsh - Freightliner BJR Holden
#15 - R.Kelly/Ingall - Sengled NisMoAu Nissan
#17 - Pye/D'Alberto - Shell Helix DJRTP Ford
#18 - Holdsworth/Reindler - Preston Hire WP Holden
#19 - Davison/Webb - Darrell Lea Tekno Holden
#21 - Blanchard/M.Jones - Cooldrive Distribution BJR Holden
#22 - Courtney/Perkins - Shark Bite HRT Holden
#23 - Caruso/Fiore - Nissan NisMoAu Nissan
#33 - McLaughlin/Wall - Wilson Security GRM Volvo
#34 - Moffat/Golding - Wilson Security GRM Volvo
#55 - Mostert/Owen - SuperCheap Auto PRA Ford
#88 - Whincup/Dumbrell - Red Bull 888 Holden
#96 - Wood/D.Russell - GB Galvanising NisMoAu Nissan
#97 - van Gisbergen/Premat - Red Bull 888 Holden
#111 - Pither/Stanaway - IceBreak PRA Ford
#222 - Percat/McConville - Repair Management LDM Holden
#888 - Lowndes/Richards - Caltex Vortex 888 Holden
#TBC - De Silvestro/Gracie - Harvey Norman NisMoAu Nissan


10 years since the first one "post Brock" - what a day that was - not going to lie, shed a man tear or two.

Come on Craig. Or DJR

[31-EVO]

#97 for me.

[Buckets]

No one can ever predict the outcome of this race. My heart says #888 my head says I'll be taking a unwell on Sunday so I can tune in and find out while I get better.

[Riggs]

SVG

Just cos he's a mad pingpingpingping.

And of course Lowndes because he is Lowndes.

Either or and I'll be happy

[TJ]

The end of this crosses into Jap Grand Prix time I think - mofos!

[The_Senator]

SO PUMPED FOR THIS. Love Bathurst.

I'd love the see #888 take another win, add to his 6. SVG will be the one to watch after coming so close last year.

[crabman]

Going to have to find a place I watch this at in Hong Kong that I can drink myself legless at.

[Buckets]

The end of this crosses into Jap Grand Prix time I think - mofos!

I love Suzuka but it's not a patch on Bathurst. Bathurst is Bathurst and not even seeing another Merc motor go bang in the back of #44 would see me switch over.

[TJ]

I want to throw McLaren shade at you, but that hurts me too :(

[djr81]

Sorry dont know how to embed shit but link is to a Nissan GT-R ad from Germany. Features a chilling re-enactment of a Mark Skaife press conference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npaHeCWjM6I

[DISTRBD]

Foxtel at work , watching the 07 replay :)

[hostage_85]

I love Suzuka but it's not a patch on Bathurst. Bathurst is Bathurst and not even seeing another Merc motor go bang in the back of #44 would see me switch over.

I think I'll have to put Foxtel Go up on the laptop for Suzuka and watch Bathurst on Free to Air at the same time to fix this issue!

[Lonewolf]

dont watch the v8's, but watch bathurst
Nice excuse to not have to go out anywhere all day - will record F1 to watch afterwards

SVG or lowndes for me also, but the mountain is an unforgiving mistress

If you've never been there, its hard to comprehend just how crazy of a place it must be to drive at pace.
it feels quick at 60k's in some places lol

[TJ]

I think I'll have to put Foxtel Go up on the laptop for Suzuka and watch Bathurst on Free to Air at the same time to fix this issue!

foxtel go for start of japan whilst bathurst finishes on big screen

[adrenalin]

Hamilton blowing up > V8's going around bathurst.

Will be watching both.

[JME]

Bathurst never ceases to entertain.

So many great drivers and teams. This year has been a ripper.

Watched 77 race last night, 91 race today at work - clearly wasnt a productive day.

[Kaido]

Bathurst never ceases to entertain.

So many great drivers and teams. This year has been a ripper.

Watched 77 race last night, 91 race today at work - clearly wasnt a productive day.

love how foxtel has put fox sport 5 to bathurst only. Watch the 91 race today too, never really watch that era of group a racing but was awesome!

[spookware]

https://youtu.be/kYg20xj85NA

have to get all the Bathurst quotes out of the old book.

"The longest straight in Australia - matter a fact longest straight in the southern hemisphere "
"The track/The Mountain you have to treat it with respect"

[DISTRBD]

Bieber in the wall again with car 34 , looks like a long night ahead for GRM :/

[TJ]

https://youtu.be/kYg20xj85NA

have to get all the Bathurst quotes out of the old book.

"The longest straight in Australia - matter a fact longest straight in the southern hemisphere "
"The track/The Mountain you have to treat it with respect"

TICKET TO THE FINAL XX LAPS!

"watts linkage" :p

[summoner]

last year of the v8's, It's a must watch

[KAL SPL]

last year of the v8's, It's a must watch
I suspect that's why there's so many people here , it's the biggest attendance they've ever had for a Thursday !
Combine that with Brocks 10th anniversary and the massive car Auction in Canowindra it's not surprising , I just hope the weather holds out.

[TJ]

So the girls are only 3 seconds off the pace, great work

[spookware]

"The great race"

"It looks to me like he has had an accident"

"Rain, rain on top of the mountain....." Q commentators talking about tyres for the next 1/2 hour whilst some muppet decides to go full Ayrton Senna mode and hits the wall.

[Denver]

Would like to see a djr car win it this year. In the shell livery again would be fitting, plus I don't think Dick is going to be around much longer, every time I see a picture of him he looks worse.

Scottie give it some jandal looks on the pace.

[dmanvan]

So the girls are only 3 seconds off the pace, great work they were about the same off the pace last year as well...... Hopefully Jamie gave her some good tips then took her for a ride.
only way to get better

[DISTRBD]

So the girls are only 3 seconds off the pace, great work

Gracies 3seconds off the pace ?

[dmanvan]

Gracies 3seconds off the pace ?

27 Harvey Norman Supergirls Renee Gracie Nissan Altima 2:09.43 03.47

that was from most recent was 4:5 in P2 yesterday....so improving at this rate she will get pole....

[JME]

Caruso Altima looks so good in the retro 91 colours. Too bad the pace isnt the same.

[TJ]

I wouldn't take anything out of Thursdays times - except that the women once again are there not due to talent.

[JME]

Altima still not matching the top end horsepower. Will see how quali goes today.

[hostage_85]

I wouldn't take anything out of Thursdays times - except that the women once again are there not due to talent.
To be fair, De Silvestro hasn't really had that much time in these cars.

[DISTRBD]

I wouldn't take anything out of Thursdays times - except that the women once again are there not due to talent.

Gracie I agree with ,she has cash behind her and is more focused on her looks then racing but Simona on the other hand has achieved wins so clearly has some talent



2015 - Became a driver for Andretti Autosport and competes in IndyCars and drives full-time for the Amlin Andretti Formula E team.
2014 - Signed as an affiliate driver with the Sauber F1 Team
2013 - Simona had nine top-10 finishes, including her first IndyCar podium finish with a second place finish in Houston.
2011 - (IZOD IndyCar Series) Started sophomore season with back-to-back top-ten finishes (4th at St. Pete, 9th at Barber). Awarded "Fastest Lap of the Race" at Sao Paulo, Brazil. Had a courageous return to qualify on Pole Day after a massive crash at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Since then she has earned another top-ten finish (Toronto).
2010 - (IZOD IndyCar Series) Indy 500 Rookie of the Year. Lead laps in very first race in IZOD IndyCar Series (Sao Paulo, Brazil). Achieved tow top-ten finishes (Toronto, Mid-Ohio).
2009 - (Atlantic Championship) Team Stargate Worlds, 4 Wins, 4 Poles
2008 - (Atlantic Championship) Newman Wachs Racing, 1 Win
2007 - (Champ Car Atlantic) Walker Racing
2006 - (Formula BMW USA) EuroInternational, 1 Win
2005 - (Formula Renault 2.0 Italy) Cram Competition

[TJ]

OK I'll play

LOL @ Sauber - same as the Renault chick who did nothing.

FE this year... she was ... woeful against good competition.

https://scontent-syd1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/14556751_10154567117766944_7272380867800716437_o.j pg

I will not even consider her 2012 season - the Lotus engine was SO SO SO SO bad - literally down 150hp and would grenade often.

Other than that, her results have been not even average. What this doesn't show, is how often she was so far off the pace as well.

2009, her good year in Atlantics - well she raced in a field that had almost half the drivers in and out of cars, missing with injuries etc etc. In other words, she was beating fill ins.

This isn't a sexism thing, unless its reverse sexism, because if she was a guy NO WAY would she have just gotten a 3 year Nissan factory drive based on her results.

[hostage_85]

Yes, You are correct their TJ.
If she was a guy, she wouldn't have a drive.
But I'll still give her the benefit of the doubt for now.

[TJ]

You will be in no doubt soon enough.

[TJ]

Solidly into the 8's now!

http://i.imgur.com/1W5u4nI.png

[DISTRBD]

she was beating fill ins.


LOL

[TJ]

I mean, to be fair, she beat Robert Wickens, who is pretty handy during that season.

Oh, wait, he only ran one race.

He also destroyed her in 2006 in formula bmw :)

[ALEX.]

....and she's in the sand. Red flag while they pull her out.
20mins left in quali when it restarts.

[TJ]

On a more serious note, 10 years ago on the Bathurst Friday.

I can't believe its been 10 years.

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[DISTRBD]

I mean, to be fair, she beat Robert Wickens, who is pretty handy during that season.

Oh, wait, he only ran one race.

He also destroyed her in 2006 in formula bmw :)

Excellent , I guess she could do no worse in Supercars then Wood , Riendler etc


Caruso Altima looks so good in the retro 91 colours. Too bad the pace isnt the same.

Made the cut , lets hope the can find some speed before top 10 :)

[TJ]

She's going to make those guys like Lowndes.

[HotAe92]

http://www.smh.com.au/content/dam/images/g/k/6/8/i/c/image.related.articleLeadwide.620x349.gk68g7.png/1444540991536.jpg

Are we looking at their times now?

[TJ]

Minus the prepped and made up shoot

http://cdn-7.motorsport.com/static/img/mgl/1100000/1160000/1161000/1161600/1161637/s8/indycar-indy-500-2011-simona-de-silvestro-nuclear-clean-air-energy-hvm-racing.jpg

[HotAe92]

Minus the prepped and made up shoot

http://cdn-7.motorsport.com/static/img/mgl/1100000/1160000/1161000/1161600/1161637/s8/indycar-indy-500-2011-simona-de-silvestro-nuclear-clean-air-energy-hvm-racing.jpg

Taking into account bonus points for being able to pedal a car, puts her into the 6/10 mark.

[31-EVO]

Fuck, your ratings are skewif as fuck

[phatboy]

Ah shes alright giver a break, 6/10 for being sweat af out a racecar

[Buckets]

Has Swiss passport = would bang raw.

[monk_13]

Anyone know of any interwebs streams for tomorrow? Keen on slowing down the network and not actually achieving anything at work. Not that that's an unusual thing....

[Niva]

livestream?

[KAL SPL]

livestream?
I'm doing live on Facebook lol

[KAL SPL]

....and she's in the sand. Red flag while they pull her out.
20mins left in quali when it restarts.
http://www.speedcafe.com/2016/10/08/supergirls-handed-5000-fine/

Keeps getting worse for them

[DISTRBD]

http://www.speedcafe.com/2016/10/08/supergirls-handed-5000-fine/

Keeps getting worse for them


Cheaper then wrapping them for the weekend :P

[Buckets]

They can't re offend before the end of the year given they're a one race outfit so the fine is a moot point.

Top 10 Shootout was primo. Some serious commitment across the top of the mountain from several of them.

[TJ]

What a weird way for 888 to go out

[Denver]

Someone crash. I'm staying far to sober.

[Steve]

Any live streams?

[Denver]

Yessssss! Shot time

[KAL SPL]

Our seating spot delivers again , watched into the wall and slide straight past us !

[KAL SPL]

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x127/KAL_SPL/F1F599B6-2157-4A4E-A486-A19E366E6609.jpg

[Macca]

Denver up to 3 shots. Will be drunk by now

[Evman]

What a scrappy race! So many incidents

[Buckets]

Fucking what a race once again.

[Lonewolf]

when i saw no safety cars to 1/2 race distance i knew there would be action at the end - didnt disappoint!

[Greg Rust]

The ticket I bought to the last 60 laps was excellent value. Was great to see Teckno win it.

[Macca]

Red Bull have protested the penalty to whincup

[The_Senator]

McGlaughlin penalised 25 points for Unsafe Re-Entry back onto the track.

Triple8 Racing have stumped up $10,000 to appeal the Whincup 10 second penalty, citing inconsistent rulings.

For my mind, if Tander had of not tried to be a last minute hero, they'd all have finished the race. But.....

[TJ]

Trying to take advantage, smart racing. Didn't end well

[DanWA]

brocky 2 part telemovie starts tonight, perfect timing

[Evman]

Can't blame him for trying. It was the last handful of laps, when the 'racing' really starts. It wasn't an impossible pass, in fact it was perfectly reasonable, it just didn't work. That's racing.

[The_Senator]

Can't blame him for trying. It was the last handful of laps, when the 'racing' really starts. It wasn't an impossible pass, in fact it was perfectly reasonable, it just didn't work. That's racing.

And yet people are losing their shit over Whincup doing exactly the same thing. Tander would have seen McGlaughlin go off-track and been more aware. Racing incident that cost 3 people a change of winning.

Great race, as always, but a moments thought by Tander would have ensured no massive carnage. And then blame whincup for it... Anyway, 'rats to Tekno Motorsport - lady luck was with you.

[DCIEVE]

Really struggling to see how Tander is at fault. Just an ugly racing incident. Harsh penalties all round :(

[TJ]

And yet people are losing their shit over Whincup doing exactly the same thing. Tander would have seen McGlaughlin go off-track and been more aware. Racing incident that cost 3 people a change of winning.

Great race, as always, but a moments thought by Tander would have ensured no massive carnage. And then blame whincup for it... Anyway, 'rats to Tekno Motorsport - lady luck was with you.

It's not the same thing.

Jamie made a move, which was no doubt planned.

Tander was reacting to Jamie checking up - Whincup propped mid-corner on the racing line, and then appeared to block, WTF was Tander supposed to do? He was trying to go around a slower car. Couldn't go left onto the grass

[Gr3mlin]

And yet people are losing their shit over Whincup doing exactly the same thing. Tander would have seen McGlaughlin go off-track and been more aware. Racing incident that cost 3 people a change of winning.

Great race, as always, but a moments thought by Tander would have ensured no massive carnage. And then blame whincup for it... Anyway, 'rats to Tekno Motorsport - lady luck was with you.

It isn't Tanders fault, stewards see someone on the grass as having no rights. So the onus is on the off-track car to proceed back onto the track without interfering with a on-track car.

I saw both penalties as just. Whincup was too gun ho into the corner especially on a car that was being lapped, and McGlaughlin for coming back on track in a unsafe manner.

[urabus]

It's not the same thing.

Jamie made a move, which was no doubt planned.

Tander was reacting to Jamie checking up - Whincup propped mid-corner on the racing line, and then appeared to block, WTF was Tander supposed to do? He was trying to go around a slower car. Couldn't go left onto the grass

As a disclaimer i am NOT a whincup fanboi and i like watching the v8's because they do rub paint.

So... whincup stuffed up and hit mcgloclan. Bound to happen that late in the race. Always does. Didnt punt him into a wall. Pulled up straight away on the opposite side of the road to where mcgloclan was going to reneter and allowed him to redress as soon as practicable.

Mcgloclan re enters realistically without really looking.

Tander had a birds eye view of the whole thing and would of seen it in slow motion. As far as i am concerned he saw a gap and went for it. It didnt come off. He saw whincup pull up and avoided him once. He should of either literally gone on the grass and easily rounded both of them up or let it play out.

My point is if it all happened again tomorrow who would change what they did? The answer would be tander and therein lies the issue.

For my money whincup couldnt have redressed sooner and the blame lies with tander.

Brendon

[TJ]

I doubt Tander would of seen Scotty until very very late in the piece - he does shoot off fairly far to the left, and was probably focused on getting around Jamie.

I have no bias here either, other than I feel for Scotty, hes a great young talent.

No issue with rubbing panels, but when you are out of control as Jamie was it's not a fair move.

[Gr3mlin]

Lol I think Whincup wouldn't of gone into the corner like he did if they could repeat it.

[dmanvan]

Lol I think Whincup wouldn't of gone into the corner like he did if they could repeat it.

and here really lies the crux of the issue..... if wincup didnt have someone in the corner to bounce off would he have made it without spinning or going off himself.????
cause if he couldnt have (was a substantial lockup and hit) then it isnt really a late race manouver and shouldnt even be allowed at all hence the penalty..

compare that move to many that Giz pulled of without having to resort to the punt ;)

[urabus]

So supoosedly the penalty whincup got was for the hit on mcgloclan and not his involvement in the aftermath.

So red bull have protested on the basis that at the drivers briefing they were told you either have to redress or its a 10 point penalty. Nothing about a 15 second penalty.

If roland dane is right it seems a prety open and shut case and whincup will be announced the winner. T8 have until tuesday night to gather and present evidence and we should hear on Wednesday or Thursday.

Regardless of who wins the appeal its a shit way for an awesome race to finish.

Brendon

Brendon

[urabus]

I doubt Tander would of seen Scotty until very very late in the piece - he does shoot off fairly far to the left, and was probably focused on getting around Jamie.

I have no bias here either, other than I feel for Scotty, hes a great young talent.

Tander would of seen scotty go off. He has done enough laps to know he isnt going to hit anything and where he was going to rejoin. I think he saw an opportunity to get past whincup (remembering they hate each other) and in that split secnd forgot about scotty.

plus one for scotty being a gun. He is still only twenty four.

Brendon

[200MPH]

If whingecup wasn't too ambitions stuffing it up the inside...
If Scott wasn't so gung-ho about re-entering track...
If Tander just was a little more patient in passing the above 2...

Then they wouldn't be race car drivers!


Pity, was looking like an interesting contest with fuel splash and dashes or economy runs happening before the Kelly clowns decide to get the safety car into action. Am I just the only one who thinks Rick especially is the prototypical racer pro-son? Temper, temper....

[DCIEVE]

In Tods defence he was punted off. Rick had a shocker though. I didn't realise they rely so heavily on audible cues for a wheel lockup.

[[FFOUR]]

* McLaughlin


Whincup was too gun ho into the corner especially on a car that was being lapped...

Who was being lapped?

[[FFOUR]]

Am I just the only one who thinks Rick especially is the prototypical racer pro-son? Temper, temper....

Did LOL at him going off at his team to stop making mistakes in the pits, only to drive it into the wall himself later.

[TJ]

https://scontent-syd1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/l/t1.0-9/14502770_1145146715571485_153160551330257935_n.jpg ?oh=9fcbeb8219c3969c90d12c9575924375&oe=58A89493

[HotAe92]

If whingecup wasn't too ambitions stuffing it up the inside...
If Scott wasn't so gung-ho about re-entering track...
If Tander just was a little more patient in passing the above 2...

Then they wouldn't be race car drivers!


Pity, was looking like an interesting contest with fuel splash and dashes or economy runs happening before the Kelly clowns decide to get the safety car into action. Am I just the only one who thinks Rick especially is the prototypical racer pro-son? Temper, temper....

Exactly, it was a swiss-cheese model whereby if one of the events occurred on there own, or at a slightly different time it would have been ok, but they all just happen to line up.

I LOL'd hard at Rick Kelly and his team efforts, he had an absolute stinker of a day.

[djr81]

“Supercars Australia can confirm an appeal has been lodged by Triple Eight Race Engineering Car 88 following today’s Supercheap Auto Bathurst 1000,” read a statement from Supercars

Also

“We have protested the penalty because it is not consistent with what we’ve been told as to the way the rules are applied this year,” Dane told Speedcafe.com.

He is quite correct. Judging from what happened to Moffat at Eastern Creek Whincup should have got a drive through.

[TJ]

Drive through would of cost him more than 15 seconds

[djr81]

Which is my point. He got off far too lightly. Again. Whincup appears to drive well on his own (He gapped the field by a huge margin early) but doesnt appear to be able to race in amongst others. Wonder what he said to Garry Rogers?

[HotAe92]

I like GT, but you could read into his body language after the incident that he knew he made a rookie error in the heat of the battle.

[djr81]

Really? I read it as him wanting to punch on with Whincup.

[Riggs]

If whingecup wasn't too ambitions stuffing it up the inside...
If Scott wasn't so gung-ho about re-entering track...
If Tander just was a little more patient in passing the above 2...

Then they wouldn't be race car drivers!


Pity, was looking like an interesting contest with fuel splash and dashes or economy runs happening before the Kelly clowns decide to get the safety car into action. Am I just the only one who thinks Rick especially is the prototypical racer pro-son? Temper, temper....

This.

They are all trying to capitalise on the situation the best they can, it's called racing. Personally I don't really blame any of them, just an unfortunate set of circumstances. The Volvo & HRT clipped wheels in a way that ripped Tander's out, which made them spin.

50cm further forward or backwards and it would have all been fair bump play on.

Brilliant race as usual.

[The_Senator]

If HRT are behind GT on this one saying the "other 2 ran out of talent", then why are they not re-newing his racing contract?

And .. Imagine the uproar if JDUB is found to have been unfairly penalised and awarded the race win.

[TJ]

If HRT are behind GT on this one saying the "other 2 ran out of talent", then why are they not re-newing his racing contract?

And .. Imagine the uproar if JDUB is found to have been unfairly penalised and awarded the race win.

Because without factory backing they don't want to pay his wages.

Walkinshaw is the greatest of fuckwits so nothing said by him should be listened to.

[djr81]

Because without factory backing they don't want to pay his wages.

Walkinshaw is the greatest of fuckwits so nothing said by him should be listened to.

To be fair he takes after his father.

[TJ]

No italics there, Tom was ... well a piece of shit when it came to racing business, legend or not.

[Riggs]

Yeah he fucked Skaife in the ass without lube

[djr81]

Didnt want to speak ill of the dead. But we are anyway, so here goes.

If you happen to read either of Allan Scott's books on TWR engines (He is supposedly writing four of them the first two cover the Group A V12's, the second the Rover V8's, not sure when the third is due but will either be the Group C engines or the rotaries) he, in passing, talks about the illegalities the engines had in them. Be it dodgy rockers, cross bolting on the Rover V8's or the (in)famous blow up fuel bladders on the XJS's. That is just the bits he knew about.

So the expression is probably cheating piece of shit.

[DISTRBD]

So the expression is probably cheating piece of shit.

LOL who wasn't cheating back in the day ?

[Buckets]

It's only cheating if and when you get caught. Until then it's gaining an engineering advantage.

Think of what Red Bull Racing used to get caught with during the Newey era or McLaren's 3rd brake pedal ect ect. All genius ideas that skirted the rules to win.

Ryan Walkinshaw is a jizzrag of the highest caliber purely because he's fucked up the VF GTS-R by not putting a fucking LS9 in it.

[The_Senator]

LS9 in the GTS-R would have been an EPIC SEND OFF for the car. But alas, no....

[TJ]

Didnt want to speak ill of the dead. But we are anyway, so here goes.

If you happen to read either of Allan Scott's books on TWR engines (He is supposedly writing four of them the first two cover the Group A V12's, the second the Rover V8's, not sure when the third is due but will either be the Group C engines or the rotaries) he, in passing, talks about the illegalities the engines had in them. Be it dodgy rockers, cross bolting on the Rover V8's or the (in)famous blow up fuel bladders on the XJS's. That is just the bits he knew about.

So the expression is probably cheating piece of shit.

Just like the bluebird with windscreen wiper boost control etc etc.

Nothing to do with leaning on and over the rules - he ripped many people off. Ask Mark Skaife his thoughts...

[djr81]

Maybe but business is business and Skaife isnt exactly getting his lunch from the Salvation army soup kitchen.

In any case the main point is 888 are turds, surely?

[TJ]

They turned up, rolled the field, and have turned it into a very good business for themselves.

Also, Skaife wasn't far off from needing a soup kitchen.

Arrows F1 had a few things to say also.

[KAL SPL]

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x127/KAL_SPL/AAFDD6A7-7405-4716-8E74-BC1C832E8261.jpg

[DISTRBD]

ChAP finest :P



http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x127/KAL_SPL/AAFDD6A7-7405-4716-8E74-BC1C832E8261.jpg

[TJ]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/motorsport/v8-supercars/bathurst-1000-red-bull-told-jamie-whincup-to-keep-following-scott-mclaughlin-before-crash/news-story/c52eeeb0b64e63a5a9d3a851a89c6288?utm_source=Social&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=FoxMotorsport

So he was effectively ruining his own race by making the pass?

Jesus, why does he become a stupid fuck when he gets to Bathurst? Because he is a brilliant driver.

[TJ]

https://www.facebook.com/smclaughlin93/posts/1296006117085093

[The_Senator]

Run out of fuel TWICE (first time he failed to pit when instructed, second time threw it all in the FK-IT Bucket and went for it)
Passed the safety car under a yellow (they where never green, Jamie)
Tries a daring pass that does not pay off.

He *COULD* be a 7 times bathurst winner.......

Seems he goes ROGUE AGENT and brain fades late in the afternoon at Bathurst!

[huggy_b]

https://www.facebook.com/smclaughlin93/posts/1296006117085093

Joe has just been schooled on block essay responses.

[hostage_85]

https://www.facebook.com/smclaughlin93/posts/1296006117085093

This just makes me like Scotty more. I was hoping Volvo could have pulled the Win off this weekend.

[djr81]

Whincup is good when out on his own. He doesnt appear to be able to race others, however.

Anyway on top of the Shell sponsorship the news that MacLachlan will be in # 17 was very welcome.

[TJ]

He definitely can. But Bathurst late in the day seems to trigger some retard mode in him.

[[FFOUR]]

Whincup is good when out on his own. He doesnt appear to be able to race others, however.



He must be pretty happy with 6 championships despite not being able to race others!

[djr81]

He definitely can. But Bathurst late in the day seems to trigger some retard mode in him.

Thought that same mode was selected for PI this year despite how much it was talked up. Still dont reckon he is a patch on Van Gisbergen in terms of race craft. Outright speed yes, just not door to door.

[Jimmy_S]

;1302689']He must be pretty happy with 6 championships despite not being able to race others!

14 years
400 races
190 podiums
100 race wins
6 championships

Wow... Imagine if he could race others!

[TJ]

http://www.speedcafe.com/2016/10/12/davison-assured-bathurst-1000-victory-safe/


After all, the techno car is 888 built...

[djr81]

Or Roland is full of shit. Anyway what the below means is Whincup cant now win.

Supercars Australia welcomes the decision handed down by the CAMS appointed National Court of Appeal today on Triple Eight’s attempt to change its appeal in respect of last Sunday’s Supercheap Auto Bathurst 1000.

Immediately following Sunday’s race, Triple Eight appealed the severity of the 15 second penalty handed to Car 88 as a result of Jamie Whincup’s failed pass on Car 33 of Scott McLaughlin.

On these grounds the appeal could only seek to downgrade the penalty from a grade two to a grade one which carries a 10 second penalty and could not have the incident re-investigated or the charge dropped.

Subsequently, Triple Eight applied to the Court to amend its appeal to instead claim that the failed pass was not a breach of the driving standards at all, despite numerous prior admissions by Triple Eight that the failed pass was a breach.

Triple Eight’s attempt to amend their appeal was today rejected by the Court. Triple Eight may still choose to appeal the severity of the 15 second penalty on Car 88 and, if so, they must do so by 5.55pm today.

Supercars Australia respects the right of all teams to appeal the decisions of stewards, however it also recognises the groundswell of opinion from teams, drivers and fans who have expressed a strong desire to see one of Australia's biggest sporting events decided on the racetrack and not in a courtroom.

[MrSparkle]

The ironic part is it was decided on the track.

[The_Senator]

Jamie passed the chequered flag first... He was penalised POST RACE..

Anyway, it'll be the status quo and no more challenges / appeals will be submitted.

[hostage_85]

Man Roland Dane needs to Fuck right off!!

http://www.news.com.au/sport/motorsport/v8-supercars/bathurst-appeal-set-to-go-full-distance-with-red-bull-not-giving-up-on-mount-panorama-title/news-story/c733acc815e37bd992dd25ced0d903cc

[DanWA]

Man Roland Dane needs to Fuck right off!!

http://www.news.com.au/sport/motorsport/v8-supercars/bathurst-appeal-set-to-go-full-distance-with-red-bull-not-giving-up-on-mount-panorama-title/news-story/c733acc815e37bd992dd25ced0d903cc

Why? the 15 second penalty was bullshit and cost them the win

[MrSparkle]

Agreed.

They crossed the line first and the victory was taken away by that decision. I'm no expert but I don't think his mistake deserved that penalty.
It sucks for Davison but he didnt lead a lap so it should be no surprise he didnt win the race. It was a shitty way to win anyway.

[anton]

http://www.facebook.com/rpmonten/videos/512948838875630/

[hostage_85]

If it wasn't at the end of the race, it would probably have been a stop go penalty but they couldn't implement it.
So a time penalty was awarded and should stand.
I agree that the 15 sec was excessive. But 10 sec was what was happening through the race anyway. So a downgrade to 10 sec is fair enough.

[Sebdullah]

but 15 sec isn't excessive when a tour of pitlane is high 20 sec

[hostage_85]

Yeh but it was 10sec stop go

[Sebdullah]

so then it really should've been +35ish sec

[urabus]

My understanding is that they are only trying to get it down graded to 10 secs and not wiped away completely.

Brendon

[hostage_85]

No, because the 10 sec stop go only applies at the time of a scheduled pit stop.
as there was no more scheduled pit stops, it should have been just a 10 sec penalty.


My understanding is that they are only trying to get it down graded to 10 secs and not wiped away completely.

That was what they originally said, but this latest article says there basically applying to the FIA to get it removed completely.

[dmanvan]

No, because the 10 sec stop go only applies at the time of a scheduled pit stop.
as there was no more scheduled pit stops, it should have been just a 10 sec penalty.



That was what they originally said, but this latest article says there basically applying to the FIA to get it removed completely.

lol.... cause apparently in an article not too long after Dane had rund and called davison and said that exact thing that their appeal wouldnt affect his race result they were just doing the best thing for jamie (even though he cant follow simple instructions from his team!)//

the vid on this link

http://www.facebook.com/rpmonten/videos/512948838875630/


sums it up pretty good in how the penalty was applied. there is no way the corner could have been taken if the other car wasn't there... hence .. redress fail whatever you want to call it..

I think in the future though they wont be applying post race penalties but then I think even F1 occasionally does it as well.
.

[TJ]

In F1 if you cannot serve a time penalty, they add it to your race time at the end.

If you cannot serve a drive through you get 25 seconds added.

You can't give him 10 seconds because he couldn't serve the 10 seconds in a pit stop. It should really be a 40 second time addition - pit lane travel time plus stop time.

15 seconds was a bargain!

[MrSparkle]

If the volvo had been able to take its place back would he still have been given a time penalty?

[hostage_85]

Fair enough TJ, I didn't know that.

If he redressed correctly then I don't think he'd have got a penalty. But who knows. I'm not a steward

[TJ]

No penalty is redress happened is my understanding

[DISTRBD]

Courtney lost 25 points for his contact with Kelly , he couldn't redress as Kelly was beached as .. See why people are confused ..

[TJ]

http://www.supercars.com/news/championship/bathurst-appeal-dismissed/?sf39180605=1

just been dismissed

[Macca]

Now onto FIA

[dmanvan]

Now onto FIA reading the release here http://www.speedcafe.com/2016/10/18/triple-eight-bathurst-appeal-dismissed/

certainly looks like that isnt even going to be the case... If the appeal should never have gone ahead then they don't have a higher power to appeal to!

[hostage_85]

So common sense prevails.

[dmanvan]

So common sense prevails. seems tanders common sense has gone once his contract wasnt renewed prior to bathurst....

http://www.supercars.com/videos/championship/coulthard-and-tander-collide-on-the-gold-coast/

some hilarious comments post incident by other drivers and DJR and coulthard as well....:)

[The_Senator]

So.. Who was at fault?

Did Coulthard move over on Tander? Did Tander bump Coulthard?

Either way, Ryan Walkinshaw would be glad he's off'd Tander....

[TJ]

I have been watching racing at gold coast since indy 1995 - anyone with half a brain knows you move left to follow the curve of the road...

Beyond that, he turns on him once he touches. Fucking abhorrent.

Only reason he even got a run was because he was banging on the back of the car coming off the hairpin.

[jnr]

This is gold, especially after the move Scotty pulled on sunday at gold coast
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